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You can´t beat the hormones with your will

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by MistrGalvanickehoPokoveni, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. I saw interesting video yesterday. About healthy eating.

    You can´t beat your hormones, that was the message.

    And the same thing is with PMO. We all probably know, what are the sources of dopamine and how dopamine works. The other thing are stress hormones like cortisol. If you are nervous, stressed or you are rejected (by the women, personalist, friend...), this hormone goes into the brain and causes imbalance. You feel the strong desire to let the accumulated tension out of you. By masturbating, drinking coffee, observing facebook, overeating, etc (yes, exactly, those are the mentioned sources of dopamine - because dopamine can balance stress hormones).

    When you feel this desire it´s too late. You can overcome it once or twice, but then, you are "dead" - you know this. You have to prevent these condition. And that is exactly why we do yoga, workout or meditations.

    So be careful, expect the hormonal storm after stressful situations and much better - prevent it. ;)
     
  2. monkotto

    monkotto Fapstronaut

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    i would say we must control the lust - or learn to control it again.

    of course horniness is natural. i think everyone has a different level. some can control it and some not.

    in my case i was not able to control it - thats why i am/was fapping. this excessive arousing caused a big chaos in my inner life.

    i think we cant beat the hormones but we can probably control them (or we can try to control them).

    the urge to have sex is a basic instinct -
    in my opinion we are quite intelligent animals. :)
     
  3. Well, but you can learn to balance it. You can TRAIN to handle akward situations.

    Like you can train to keep cool and to get no panic when a fire breaks out.
     
  4. MelancholyWeightlifter

    MelancholyWeightlifter Distinguished Fapstronaut

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    You can beat your hormones, it just depends on your strength, discipline and self control. No hormone can ever force you to do something you don't decide to do. The human will is capable of overcoming even the most intense of our desires.
     
  5. Hum I certainly don't know if I agree on this one, following this logic I'd relapse every time I have my periods because God knows how a massive cocktail of hormones it is. I may be full of hope but I believe you actually can beat your hormones. You can beat 'em by fooling them or as MW said, by crushing them through mastering yourself. There's a lot of cases of men doing perfectly fine with "NoFap" through self-control and discipline, right now I'm thinking of monks but I'm sure there are other examples. And even just my humble self, yesterday I had one of my most violent urge to date because I'm on my periods again and it's impossible to explain or visualize but there's like your flesh physically craves something down there. It's absolutely not mental. It's purely physical. The flesh inside feels like a black hole dying to attract any kind of meat that passes next to it. It's an animal feeling. Did I relapsed?

    No.

    Because my hormones do not define me.
     
  6. monkotto

    monkotto Fapstronaut

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    is there a difference between

    hormones
    emotions
    brain
    mind
    soul

    depending to this damn addiction?

    which of this factors plays the biggest role?

    thats for sure - we stressed all of them by using excessive porn for whatever reasons.
     
  7. To my experience: EMOTIONS. A clash of positive and negative emotions. You WANT to do something, but FEAR and DOUBTS are holding you back from decisions and actions.

    This is what happens:

    1) You WANT to DO something. For example, you want to practice guitar. Or you want to write a software for someone. Because, in your dream, you WANT to be on stage! You WANT to sell a great software! You want thousands of happy customers, you weant to do GREAT things, you want to be famous and rich!

    2) But THEN, you begin to THINK ... "Wait! Probably, my work will not be perfect ... And then, I will be critized ... !!! "

    3) You FEAR any critizism! It makes you sick and trembling! It is the worst for you!

    4) So you come to your "solution": You do NOTHING !!! Because if you do NOTHING, you cannot do ANY MISTAKES! Instead you "better" look some porn!! This gives you happyness at once, and no one will critize you for it!

    That's what is going on!
     
  8. monkotto

    monkotto Fapstronaut

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    right a big clash - and permanent ups and downs.

    i forgot the horniness. this is also an important factor. everyone has a different level of horniness. i think fapstronauts have a very high level - porn is boosting the horniness. this is something god-given. damn he gave me far too much of it!
     

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