Will Women Know?

This may seem like a shallow question, but will there ever come a point where abstinence will lead women to a level beyond the 'super power' of them simply noticing you? I noticed the eyes and greetings when I first started (though never during previous periods of abstinence), even though I didn't know to expect them. My own personal benchmark of gold-star success would be attractive female-initiated interaction, so a quantum leap beyond the smile is desired. I've already figured out the biology of the smile as assessing a higher-quality mate, but I'm not ashamed to say I want more.

Could it happen, and if so, what are the likelihoods and guideposts I should be looking for?

 

I understand you meant it in jest, and I've certainly taken it as nothing more, however this has been the very honest truth, since LONG before I was M'ing. I stopped counting in the 80s as to number of times I was rejected, and I had never M'ed at that point. Effort and and the risk of rejection were not only not acknowledged (for lack of a better word), they proved detrimental. Needless to say, I'm very adverse to putting myself 'out there'. Real work I've done in the past (meditation, exercise, higher education, improved dress sense, battling mental health issues) has resulted in no results in this field, so I'm trying to establish what will produce results.

The cheat code/starting line analogy is nice though.

 

Yes they do. This is my one real concern out of the this process, as I don't have, and aside from brief glimmers in my life, have never had confidence. Life experience has never given it to me in any great deal, and despite the resiliency I've had to keep on going, confidence is the one thing that has eluded me. It's not as if you can do set of reps at the gym for it, and I've passed out from alcohol usage before the supposed 'confidence' it provides kicks in.

I think we can safely assume I'm long past having expectations. I'm so far past it I don't bother with compliments as empirical evidence has proven that they produce minimal responses, and sometimes even negative ones.

I am painfully aware of my main shortcoming. I've just never encountered a surefire method to overcome it.



Anyone know where I can order his videos?

 

Often, women wear makeup and perfume because they like how it makes them look or smell, but also because society pretty much demands it of women in public. It's not always necessarily because we're trying to find a mate.

 

I think many women wear make up and jewellery because they are insecure. How often might a woman say (or think), I wouldn't go out without "fixing my face"! Women laugh at men who are (admittedly) hung up (no pun intended, lol ) about the size of their dick. Yet women have much greater anxiety over their appearance than men do. Ironic is it not?

 

Society doesn't dictate men 'fix their face' before they leave the house. If a woman is seen without makeup it's automatically assumed she's either lazy, doesn't care about her appearance or she's ill. There's major double standards going on when it comes to stuff like this.

 

Personally, I think that make up detracts from a woman's beauty. Don't get me started on botox injections and cosmetic surgery. I have seen plenty of documentaries about these issues where women state they do these things, for them.

 

That is the most contrived scenario ever...would ANYONE do ANYTHING they normally do on a desert island? Seriously.

 

Thank you for pointing this out to me. A common shortcoming I've found in my relationships is that I've never felt my partners were particularly feminine. It's never something I felt comfortable bringing up because these were actual women who wanted an actual relationship with me, regardless of how bad some of the relationships were. (one stemmed out of a pity f*ck and two were using me as a source of attention whilst they pursued something else). I had long given up on doing the chasing because I was sick of the constant rejection. (I stopped counting in the 80's, and no, there was no 'yes'). As noted elsewhere, M wasn't my problem at this point in my life, or at other points. There were two that were good, but neither of them particularly cared for being feminine, and one was violently opposed to it. I would like to think of myself in a feminist (as a way to achieve equality, not to 'pick up'), and asking someone, anyone, to do something they don't want to do is something I have often been on the receiving end of.

I guess I was hoping for a magic bullet, or at least magic laser sight, to help deal with this issue. I've read numerous pick-up texts, and even the ones that claim to have the 'girls chasing you' still have you going up to them and talking to them. I've gone through many of the external factors to get the other party to do the work (good clothes, expensive haircuts, placing myself in 'high quality' locations), but even with semen retention it's still going to be me who has to 'do the work', as it were. It's all really quite off-putting, in a 'I really don't bother dealing with this human-human interaction business' way, not in a 'I think I'll go relapse' way.

I'm sorry that this lingering question may be detracting from the serious issues that this forum deals with. I was honestly hoping that my participation would help with this.

I'm thinking that it's my own lack of confidence, stemming from something WAAAY back in the past, continues to be a primary source of my problems.