Why NoFap Community is so religious?

Discussion in 'NoFap Technical Support' started by ChownTuen, Oct 29, 2015.

  1. IGY

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    If you really believe that @Eric'sBlue, why are you trying to shut down @Mr. Cold Turkey's viewpoint? That's not cool OK?
     
  2. New Focus

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    Although this thread is devolving into flame throwing, I wanted to go back to OP's original question of why this community is so religious. That may be the opinion of some here, but from my viewpoint, this is by far a secular community. Honestly, I cannot imagine where the idea (fear?) that this is a religious community could even come from.

    My personal feeling is that there is not enough here.

    This community to me is what it is like in real life. Everyone is different. All everyone wants really are 2 things...
    1) To feel like they belong
    2) To be respected

    Lets all get along...
     
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  3. Lunar Devil

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    Hmmm...I didnt read the 2nd page...Regarding this topic I think any reference to religious texts or 'strictly' belong to a religion views should be banned completly, any reference of 'god' just be discouraged in general...and accept the word god or whatever to mean that which simply created it all and is behind it all. I mean concidences and 'manifested' events in life are something we can all confirm for sure, there must be something behind it and that which created the universe I am sure we can all agree it is beyond our understanding and that if not a human at least a 'force' must have created, any self labelled 'scientist' must agree there is something responsible for everything. Even if this means that we need not worship or follow any rules of any kind for that force/being, whatever. Such use of the word or relating words to 'god' would actually provide a use for it and reduce conflict ... as well as expand the horizons of some people ._.
     
  4. Septimus

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    "Banned completely"? Are you serious?
     
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  5. Knight Solaire

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  6. Lunar Devil

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    Yes nofap relates to the spiritual and the spiritual relates to some non-denominational parts that are found in all religions. But nofap is not related to the other parts of all religions. I am wrong?...I mean, yes it does relate to hardcore of religions like how christinianity teaches celibacy because its a sin and so on but that kind of 'relation' to nofap has no reason to be bought here on the forum for everybody to see. If there is a specific religion area only then maybe there it would be ok but otherwise, bringing that dogmatic part of any religion here is like those christian on youtube comments being like " you will all go to hell becuase..." all their beliefs to themselves simple. But fact of reality, that which is really spirituality and not just religion, is not an opinion so its 'ok' to share with others. Right?
     
  7. Septimus

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    I don't quite follow your line of thought here.

    Let's be clear. Alexander and those who created and run this site have linked their work to no religious or theological point of view. There's no "established religion" on this site. If they wanted to, they could -- it's their site -- but it seems pretty clear that Alexander and his collaborators have NO intention of doing so.

    Thus, the site is "secular."

    You appear to be advocating censorship. But how, exactly? If someone shares his or her religious views in a journal post, would you expect moderators to delete offending words, or to delete the offending post? If there is a discussion in a thread, say, about whether masturbation is "bad for you," would you want someone to censor out anyone answering that question with reasons masturbation might be morally bad?

    Who do you want to handle this censorship?

    And why, exactly?

    In my journal, I give my account of my own journey to break the habit of porn and masturbation. I make mention of my faith, and how that shapes my decisions and motivation. If, for example, reading my journal offends you, who makes you read it? How does the fact that my journal talks about my religious faith harm you in any way?

    Your desire to censor other people's comments on this site are mind-boggling.
     
  8. Lunar Devil

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    no serious reason, quite a detailed post you made of the same point. Nothing serious was just thinking about the topic and put my ideas into words :) Thats what I think would be right
     
  9. JoeinMD

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    And, what the meaning of "is" is, right? :cool:
     
  10. Well ridiculously funny thread. I've stopped reading here.

    News flash: Religion is what you believe will bring you happiness. Everything else "religious" is simply a derivation of that.

    Everyone pursues happiness, it's pretty universal, and we all have ideas on how we should go about it.

    The person committing suicide believes he (and or the world) will be better off if he is dead.

    The painfully shy introvert wasting his life in front of a screen every night believes that he will be happier doing that than risking the disappointment of rejection which he believes is inevitable.

    A person believing in a tyrannical god will keep the rules of this god to receive the joy of the reward, typically deferred till after death.

    It's all about what you believe will make you happy.

    Whether these ideas come from politics, hollywood, established religions really matters little.

    We are all religious.

    And ironically in my experience I find that ppl who proscribe to an established religion, like Christianity, are far less predictable in their beliefs than ppl who dismiss established religions as holding no value (e.g. believe there is nothing there that will lead to their happiness).
     
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  11. Can you explain the meaning of religion?

    That would've been a better choice of wording I suppose. No need for the isness business.

    Better hit Elevate on the daily :)
     
  12. JoeinMD

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    Religion is a virtue in the order of justice, consisting of all the man rightly owes to God as his due.
     
  13. Well that is very concise and quite nice, thanks!

    I didn't necessarily mean to ask you that question but figured you might respond due to the nature of how I framed that post.
     
  14. Knight Solaire

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    The meaning of religion is subjective. Guys, this is pointless. Please just move on to what the thread was actually about. If you have nothing to say about the subject of the thread, then please find some other thread or forum to argue on.

    Every single thread someone has anything to say about religion there is always people there to argue. We live in a very open world now. Please learn to stop judging people so harshly and starting arguments with people over semantics.

    We are here to be a brotherhood of men and women from many different backgrounds, religions, and culture. We support each other no matter what. No matter what! There is no need for this mindless violence towards each other. Please guys, you all are better than this.
     
  15. Phunkie

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    Guys, we all worship something, whether we call it God or not.

    We all need to start opening our eyes and start acknowledging that we all believe in something that is way bigger than our whole lives. Call it faith, call it hope, call it karma, call it horoscopes, call it scientific fact.

    It takes a certain amount of faith to believe that this Universe was created from absolutely nothing (i.e. the Big Bang). It should also make us laugh a little bit. :)

    Instead of negatively focusing on our differences, why not celebrate them, because ultimately each of our differences make us who we are. Thank goodness, thank God, thank the stars, that each of us is different, because this would be some boring ass world if we weren't.

    No matter how different we are, we all can always choose to love and respect the other.
     
  16. DisciplineYourMind

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    Why does it matter if NoFap is so religious or not? If you want a serious answer to the question though, then you really don't have to think that hard about it.

    Most religions (especially the monotheistic ones) see masturbation, pornography, and sexual promiscuity in general, to be sinful. As such, followers of such religions generally try to avoid such things. This common goal leads many of these people to NoFap. Simple as that.
     
  17. SolidStance

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    (As Solid Stance reads on, he cant help to wonder, 'what if they knew that they were themselves, God, ah well', the thought fades as he reaches for another ale)
     
  18. SuperTux

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    Well, I think a "spirituality" can help humans not to stick on our problems, but lift our heads and look on higher goals. Perhaps this "spirituality"/meditation is what you call "religious" - which is still something different from an "organized religion" e.g. catholic church, etc. For me, my belief (roman-catholic) helps me to deal with my poverty and imperfections. But - that's for me. But in general, any meditation as encouraged, is helpful.
     
  19. DisciplineYourMind

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    Yeah there is definitely a difference between spirituality and organized religion. But of course, organized religion can contain elements of spirituality. I wonder though, people that claim to be practicing spirituality, if it's really just a form of meditation or "self-awareness". Nothing wrong with either of course, but the terminology is often confusing.
     

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