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Why do I keep hurting her without her knowledge?

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by OntheSurf4ce, Sep 6, 2017.

  1. @OntheSurf4ce ok, I'm gonna tell him! You're right. I want to feel the guilt free feeling too. And I've been totally abstaining from P since I joined Nofap. Yeah I'm doing this today. Ok! Thanks
     
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  2. OntheSurf4ce

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    That's so great to here. Now that you're certain, just don't be afraid. This forum is a wonderful and safe place for support. If you ever feel down, never be afraid to reach out.
     
  3. I talked to my husband and we had a good chat about my issues with the PM and he was totally shocked. He had no idea that I was watching that stuff. He wasn't upset, or sad, he was just surprised by it. He confessed to me that he sometimes looks at college babes on Instagram but he hasn't looked at porn in a long time...like since I was away in training 6 months ago.
    He asked why I look at P and I told him I get sexually frustrated when we don't have sex for a few days. I told him realistically we should have sex every night..or every morning...and he said okay! Things are great, no urges I'm totally happy. He said when I'm being a brat he doesn't feel like having sex but on the flip side if he's providing sex I'm not a brat...so yeah it was a good talk! Thanks for the digital courage @OntheSurf4ce i wouldn't have done it unless you started this thread...and our relationship has been so much better, I actually feel closer to him. I feel like I can tell him anything and he won't freak out.he will still love me and listen to me
     
  4. OntheSurf4ce

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    @LesPauline I'm glad to hear that! Honesty is always the best policy. I'm glad that everything worked out. Sometimes our worst fears are just internal and keeping them inside only gives them more power. Getting them out in the open releases a giant weight from our shoulders. Every day will be a struggle but every day it will also get easier. Thank you for the update.
    As for me, this week of vacation with my fiancée and her family was definitely eye opening and allowed me to rekindle a portion of my relationship that was lost to P addiction. I feel so much closer to her now. It's only been 8 days or so for me but I feel can feel the love sinking back in. All will work out in due time. Just give yourself the patience you deserve. Thank you to everyone who responded on this thread.
     
  5. I totally missed this thread, but now, after reading it all, I am so amazed and proud of you @OntheSurf4ce and @LesPauline. Truly inspiring and uplifting :)
    @slb, read it and soak up the power of honesty and openness - for your motivation ;-)
     
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  6. OntheSurf4ce

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    Hey All, Just a quick question. I've noticed a problem that I've had in the past, and I came close today. I've noticed that whenever my fiancee and I get intimate, it's hot and heavy, and it's very pleasurable. The next day, mostly in the morning that I am feeling residual effects of being aroused. I get the feeling in the AM, but it can subside after an hour or so. I get extremely aroused, thinking about the night previous with my fiancee and it gets overbearing sometimes.

    This morning, in an attempt to get rid of the arousal, I got a cold shower. I noticed it stopped after a half hour, but then I saw an ad on TV of a girl in a bikini and I became aroused again. I went into my study, and went on my computer. I navigated to a P website, and clicked on the first video, watched 5 seconds of it and then quickly exited, knowing full well the path that it would lead me down. I didn't commit to it and I just ended up going back in the shower and getting a ice cold shower.

    Does this count as a relapse? I didn't M, but i did watch like 5 seconds of it and just quickly exited. I know the bad path it would lead me down, and i thought of the progress and promise I made to my Fiancee, and I didn't want to betray that.

    Any suggestions?
     
  7. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    The Chaser Effect is very powerful in the beginning stages of reboot.
    @anewhope can, as a PA, probably tell you more than me.
    But until you are after the Flatline... Watch out for its effects.
    Good luck!
     
  8. Can you tell your fiancé that you're feeling aroused again? Maybe if you tell her she'll want to be with you to take care of you?
    Since I've been talking to my husband more about feeling arousal and the need for O, he's been very understanding and makes the time to have sex with me everyday.
     
  9. OntheSurf4ce

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    @LesPauline - I definitely can do that. Ever since I've told her, we've been more intimate. I mean, it's not an every day thing, but it's at least 4-5 times a week. But sometimes I noticed that in the between days, the chaser effect is definitely strong. I don't want to pressure her honestly though, she has a bit of a lower libido than I do, but she did tell me that she has felt more beautiful ever since we've been more intimate in the past 2 weeks. So it is mutually beneficial.

    @Kenzi - when you mean "Flatline" do you mean succumbing to it's effects? Like watching it full on and M along with it?
     
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  11. OntheSurf4ce

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    Thanks for this! Would you consider what I did a relapse? Or just in the knick of time to be able to stop it? I personally don't feel like I did give in fully, in fact I feel as though it was a mini victory. Should I just take this as a lesson and use it as a win since I overcame it?
     
  12. Kenzi

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    I don't know if you want to ask me.
    My SO is on a Really strict custom reboot of 3 years and 36 days.
    I know he would say it depends on certain factors....
    The biggest being, what are your parameters for reboot?
    Did you break your rules?
     
  13. OntheSurf4ce

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    Okay, well I can understand that.
    I'm strict, but my biggest fear is giving in completely. Which I feel I didn't. I feel as though, I was tempted, and then said NO and stopped myself before partaking in anything.
    Those are really my parameters. My parameters are basically, don't view porn, and if you feel aroused do anything you can to get rid of the urge. I am getting better. I think I play a think line though honestly, because I still do partake in M, which my fiancee knows, but since 13 days ago, I've only been using M and thinking about my fiancee, with 0 help from P, which is alot better than I used to do. My biggest thing is to not watch P and do M. Which I didn't. I don't even want to view P, because it can lead me to M while watching.
    I don't view it as breaking my rules.

    Maybe I'm thinking too much about it. I think best bet is to just continue on the path I am on to better myself.
     
  14. TryingToHeal

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    Just IMO as a SO, you looked at P, that's a relapse. I would commend you for only looking for a short time, moving on and not Oing, that is really good, but you still gave in to that temptation and you looked. I think this is why "hard mode" is important for some people. If you are having issues with the chaser effect, you may want to try it. I think you have to stop this when it is just in the fantasizing stage and get your brain out of that circle. You can't let yourself go there to start with, redirect when you start thinking of sexual things so that you don't get to that point of getting aroused in your head.
     
  15. Kenzi

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    And P-Subs are porn too.
    It's those compromises.
    I don't know anyone who has been here awhile who won't tell you otherwise.
     
  16. OntheSurf4ce

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    @TryingToHeal - I can completely understand what you mean about it being considered a relapse. I think I'll reset my counter, but still consider this as a "small victory" since I didn't give in completely. It takes time to win wars.

    As far as Hard Mode goes, this will not work for me. Not using this as an excuse, as I am not the only one in this relationship. Sex is a very important part of our relationship, but it's up to ME to seek help when needed and this is where I failed today. Instead of talking to my fiancee, I just gave in for a short period. I'm not saying that Hard mode isn't an option, but as I said, sex is a very important part of our relationship. I know I can do this while maintaining my sex life with her, however one thing that I think will be better for me is to abstain from M along with P. This may help me during the reboot.
     
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  17. Ryan77

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    If you continue to struggle with relapse, you may want to talk to her about her willingness to go "hard mode" with you. If not together, then at least you (allow her to M or O with you while you maintain hard mode...assuming she doesn't have a need to reboot). I don't have the experience of what happens at the end of the hard mode reboot when sex starts again, only what I have read. But my wife and I were both interested in going hard mode for 90 days individually, and then once we talked, we found out that we both agreed with trying that for my reboot. It is really tough (sex is very important in most relationships), and I still have 2 months to go, but it is worth it to try and grow more intimate with her during the time of no sex. Not saying you have to go 90 days, but a time you can agree on.
     
  18. OntheSurf4ce

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    This is definitely something that we can talk about. It is super hard to not be intimate with her sexually. Especially since I can get sexually frustrated. And honestly, even since she has a lower libido, she can get sexually frustrated too if we've gone too long. There's been times when we've gone 5+ days and we both got a bit frustrated. It wasn't anyone's fault, but we just had a lot going on with work, travelling, and what not.

    I feel as though if i'm honest with her, we can figure out a plan and execute it. It may take some understanding and initiative, but seeing the results of no P after 2 weeks made me feel like a new man. Even though I had a tiny slip up today, I don't feel bad about it because I didn't succumb to the temptation fully. I caught myself and said NO. I reset my counter anyway because it is the right thing to do just as a reminder of how far in the past 2 weeks i've come.
     
  19. TryingToHeal

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    I understand what you mean. Hard mode is tough. My husband didn't have much choice when it started because I didn't want sex with him at that time (I was hurt and just couldn't get it out of my mind long enough to get to that place mentally.). So that is probably easier in that respect.

    And it was a victory that you didn't stay on the P site, that you left on your own. That part is awesome.
     
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  20. OntheSurf4ce

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    Thanks for the encouragement. I know it's a long term battle, so keeping a straight mind is the best thing I can do. Think about the small victories and move forward.
     
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