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What is evolution?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Mr. McMarty, Sep 5, 2019.

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  2. brilliantidiot

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    I agree.
     
  3. onceaking

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    I'm not sure it is. I don't think the creation story in Genesis is a story of how life began but I don't evolution is compatible with Christian theology. Christianity isn't about the survival of the fittest.
     
  4. EXPONENTIALLY

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    It's another big satanic tool to endoctrinate the mass into thinking there is no God and that they're just animals and as important as a dust in an infinite universe that came out of nowhere, so they'll be docile and miserable, feeding the satanic industry of destructive lies behind it.
     
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  5. I found this perspective very helpful!

     
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    Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. -Romans 1:22-25
     
  7. SuperFan

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    Compatible with Christianity? Evolution isn't even compatible with modern science.
     
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  8. Khufu

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    evolve to me means adapting to your environment
     
  9. MLMVSS

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    Young-earth creationism is a joke rooted against logic and truth already found on the earth. I mean, God have us brains to use and to think, and believing that isn’t using it imo. Old-earth creationism or divine-guided evolution is when you start getting closer to what the truth possibly is.
     
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  10. vxlccm

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    This is long, but well worth it.



    @SuperFan Is your point similar to mine, as contained in that video, that science cannot prove a theory of evolution or spontaneity of life by observation, therefore it is only by their own anti-faith that they cling to an idea, seemingly because they reject God.

    A great danger lurks in our society. By far, most of the world believes in God, and many more believe in the value of spiritual faith without a specific acknowledgement of the Abrahamic traditions.



    It is interesting to me how a basic human right is not respected by many leftists which is to teach children as parents see fit. By nature, parents accept all responsibility to nurture, protect, and teach children. The march of socialist agenda seems to include an assault on religion and faith. And, as a casualty in that plague, many want to insert mandatory education, including on topics that may contradict the sacred responsibility of parents. Why are those people so intolerant, disrespectful, abusive of power, and then dare to remain sanctimonius about it?

    @Mr. McMarty It is my opinion that the ideas of evolution rob God of his honor and glory. In my view, it's one way or another. Either things are random, or very much intentional. In my view the Creator purposed every gravitational line and in the solar system, every tilt of the earth and moon captured, ever scrap of DNA code, every spirit to give life to the clay golems we otherwise would be, every new day dawning, and so forth...
     
  11. Conflating atheism or evolutionary biology with politics is so utterly stupid that the only explanation why a mentally fit person would do it is that they have been a subject of thorough brainwashing.
     
  12. vxlccm

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    One might assume you're addressing me. Also as in: not deconstructing anything within the recent post? Why not just ignore it and not say you're ignoring it? The premise of why you're ignoring it is hardly valuable.

    It is clear to nearly all who subscribe to Intelligent Design theory (even if not the Genesis account) that for many the Theory of Evolution goes hand in hand with an assault on religious faith.

    p.s. The "evolutionary biology" term is invalid and attempt to scientifically legitimize an inherently unscientific idea, or an unproven one. A theory is fine, but there is no observable evidence of evolution. One of the great points in the first video is about the difference in observable natural selection, and claims of much grander natural selection that might in theory lead to evolution.

    Either way, catastrophic leaps from molecules to living cells to humankind walking around the earth with individual minds... simply untenable to anyone with an iota of faith. Also, to Christians and Jews who believe in the Genesis account, we don't need to understand but prefer to believe the word of God who already told us how Creation was accomplished (and why).
     
  13. The theory of evolution is an attack on religion? How delusional. Scientists have better things to do than worry about mythology.

    However I regret to inform you that every single theory is by definition temporary. It is technically possible that tomorrow we wake up to realize that in fact Earth is not orbiting the Sun, matter is not made out of atoms and that our great-great-great-...-grandpa wasn't a worm roaming the seas hundreds of millions of years ago.

    But until that happens these are facts of our reality. And nothing the self-righteous, servile subjects of an imaginary dictator say can change that.
     
  14. vxlccm

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    Nice description. Knowledge is exactly like that, yes.

    When I die, I will have the privilege to awaken into a state of light and renewed memory about God... which effectuates much the condition you describe. It will then become obvious that Genesis is correct, as I now believe but then will know. Can I prove this to you now? No. Not exactly, anyway. Apparently, the purpose of this phase of existence is as a trial of faith. Exercising faith, though, even small amounts seeded by mere hope in the afterlife and future joy, one becomes familiar with belief itself as of substance and not imagination. It is not a cognitive dissonance, but something apart and of tangibleness in the heart.

    One interesting thing about God being real is that all things will be proved in the end. Pascal's wager is something that works for some. Others, a tragedy brings a hope alive in their soul which grows into faith. Other good humans merely have innate charity and will deserve their excellent reward, as well.
     

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