What do successful Fapstronauts think are the most useful tools to nofap?

Awareness and understanding of the truth.

And self/mental-control

 

Being aware that:
Porn IS fake. Porn stars are miserable and unhappy people who actually work hard for relatively not enough money and expose themselves to STDs. Also ruin their career and characters. Just look at what pornstars who come out of the industry have to say about it. Porn is also highly immoral and voyaristic. Ted Bundy believes 100% that there is a correlation between porn use, especially heavy porn use and those convicted of sexual offences.
Porn actually encourages inhumane sexual relantionships like incest videos, hurting others, kidnapping them, chasing the orgasm (carnal feeling) instead of the whole-being act, destroying the innocent and human view of others as friends or family or just someone who is in need, etc..
Dopamine addictions are everywhere. Weakness is death but pain is courage; courage is strength and strength is life.
Porn studies are faked. For money.
It is not a myth but a lie that every man&boy uses pornography and masturbates, especially those in a relantionship. Only cowards still use porn and masturbate to others while in a "relantionship". They treat their girl or man like a ship rather than a relantionship.
Ejaculation actually weakens the body and robs it of it's vital nutrients. It takes many meals over many days to fully recover one ejaculation; you didn't think the body just makes life-making-sperm&semen out of just air and water right?! It requires life to make life!
Masturbation is pure nerve tingling. We didn't evolve, not for millions of years, but through millions of incredible, ground-breaking acts of courage, inteliggence and grace as a species in order to shamelessly tickle out bodies in secret, away from everyone...

Understanding that:
Combating addiction is not a willpower game. It's about discipline.
It does take months to actually say you have recovered. If I remember correctly some science I've read, it takes months to neurogically 'rewire'.
Girls&women|Boy&men are just other humans like us. They sweat and stink like freaking vinegar or cheese just like us. They fart hard and subtly until the paint comes off the walls, as well. They experience anxiety and personal development troubles just like us . They have human feelings just like us. They innately want to do 'good' just like everyone else but struggle with their own mis-understanding and 'darkness' just like us. They came in this world just like us and will go away just like us.
Being weak is not shameful but staying weak is!
etc.

)Regular fitness routine is a must for every kind of development in life. Just like I said above, the brain is part of the body. So body influences brain (mind) just as much, if not even more in many cases, as body influences the body.
)Many suffer from PMO because they have a G- -P in their lives that needs to be filled. For them other addictions like social media addictions, videogames addiction, drinking addiction, toxic habits addictions are the hole and pmo is the gravity that keeps them stuck in the whole. The whole needs to be filled while it's gravity dissapears.
)Meditation, focus - CONCETRATION.
)WILL! Mike Tyson was celibate for 5 years to cultivate himself. Another boxer, who's name I forgot, said something about self-control or will once, that he's celibate as part of his will to be the best boxer, so much than "even if a girl come to me in a dream I will say NO, tomorrow I have a match" (approximately) [reffering to lustful dreams that would normally lead most to a nocturnal emission].
)Water (showers) before bed can excite your energy and incite lust (nocturnal emission). Similarly eating before bed will irritate the lower centres. I have noticed actually noticed these happening in me, on multiple occassions, they're not just myths. Similarly a vegetarian diet can really help to pacify you like how vegetarian animals tend to be more peaceful, but of course vegetarian diet leave you depleted in some ways, (protein..B12..) even the buddha ate some meat before reaching his enlightement under the tree , but keep it in low consumption, give the body time to detoxify that meat and try oven cook it, avoiding the black raosting that bbq gives.

Just some tips of the top of my head. Search the forums for more

I've spoken, both online and in real life, to a couple people who have been in hardmode for over 5 years, and even over 10 years, for both christian religious motive and others, like martial arts, just formed the habit to be celibated, business and family related, etc. etc. What I picked them up on all their sayings, at least as I heard it, the secret of long term celibacy is discipline. Simple. In the first 1-3 months the body is raging with lustful hormones. So willpower is essentialy then. But long term it is an endurance game. Discipline I seen somewhere discipline defined as choosing what you ultimately want over what is put in front of you temporarily. As yes this statement implies choosing what makes you the happiest and most truly-satisfied, as you cannot truly chase something you don't care about for long. It's like if I tell you not think of a white elephant, as were reading this line of text you were/are in a passive state of mind. But if you really focus and engage your consciouss will force/attention you can control your thoughts and even avoid a thought entity or thought pattern entirely. Like if porn gives you homosexual or incestful thoughts, you don't tell anyone but you will focus and eradicate them from your mind at once because you refuse to entertain such nonsense in your mind and life! So what is the difference? It is interest. If you will something it becomes very interesting. Your whole attention is being absorbed onto it easily because you dwelling on it makes it interesting Similar with discipline. If you sign up in the army and enjoy the whole disciplined atmoshphere you will grow. If you cry about it and would rather be more 'lazy' then you will never develop those discipline habits in your life and will not grow while in the army.

 

One of the best post here.. thanks

 

To be fully conscous of the Withdrawal symptoms and traps which your mind uses to get you back into porn habbit.

 

honestly and simply...to turn my head, get up and walk away when starting to go to P and PSUBS

I will remember this thanks

 

In my 1 year journey I found this-
Let the grace inside you work for you. It will only work if you have no mind of your own. If you stop being rational or irrational. How do you do this ?
Light an oil lamp in your temple or your room twice a day and start praying.
At my worst time I did this, and I got to know all my flaws and they got resolved automatically.
People don't believe in God, I think they don't deserve it. Because you have 24 hrs in a day. If you can not give even 20 mins in praying you don't deserve it.
2. Meditation
3. Visualisation
4. Breathing exercise

 

For me most useful was In Case You Didn't Know topic. I find it easy every time and share. I have read it only once fully but from begining when I was new to nofap I wanted what nofap is all about and looked for essence of this movement. Then this topic had all the rules and right mindset. Two most useful things from all that was - Enemy is here to steal kill and destroy. And also dont touch your genitals cause its not a toy.

https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/in-case-you-didnt-know.84619/

 

I am not on successful place yet but I think awareness is everything man. Be with whatever sh*t in your life and accept them whole heartedly. We always run on our problems instead of staying with them and giving them enough attention.

 

I agree with you, self discipline is a huge key to success no matter how small the routine may be. I remember another thing that had helped me big time last streak of over 100 days was waking up and with a fierce voice saying "I am not an animal, I am better than this!" and reinforcing the facts that porn is a disgusting deplorable thing or a more basic thought would have been, "Come on man that's someones daughter, how would you feel if that was your daughter." One of the recent things that I've seen in a post is surrender, not in the bad way however. Just a technique that means hey I understand the vices that I have and wish to relinquish them forever.

 

Isn't that surpression?

..its a sin to God to do this...please sexual drive, stop existing...

I think true transmutation comes from a more geounded view such as seeing all her sides. Not only past her clothes but past her skin, to see the fat. Past her outter flesh to see her toxins and sluggish posture and weakness. In order to smell the deadly smell coming from inside her body. To see her intestines filled with bits of weeks old shit on parts. Past all her flesh to see her uneven and one sides bones. To see how sluggish her bones are when she walks or stands or even sleeps, making the perfect man wonder how are her bones even keeping her up against gravity. Past her current condition to see her on her bad days when she speaks unbeautiful words and lacks grace and intelligence. To see past this times for the day when she will wither away and be old and unnatractive. Past the resillience of her form now, for the day when her lonely body will turn yellow and black and be eaten by the worms. Past all her current and future forms to see how that being came to know itself like you came to know yourself and experienced the world and came to it like you did. That everyone just wants to grow and the perceived evil and unpure desires of some, are not their innate condition but impediments to their true grace.

 

Dude, are you comparing being gay with incest?

 

Amazing! Thank you for sharing this!

 

I also plan my daily routine and do what matters the most first and other insignificant tasks later.
Second tip would be to place my computer and use my phone in public and keeping my door open at all times.
Third tip would be regular physical exercise with progressive overload.
Fourth would be to fall in love... It is optional! XD

 

They are not compareble becuase they are not in the same league but they are in the same game...

Lot's of people here complain they have homosexual thoughts from overdoing porn. And even have watched for a long term homosexual nature videos. I have experienced this to a minor degree myself at my worst addictive times. And even having uncontrolled thoughts about my relatives. About my teachers and neighbours. Visualising unwillingly mass orgies with me included . Addiction is a poison on the mind and runs wild like a forest fire. Ten Bundy believes 100% that there is a very strong correlation between heavy pornography use and the type of those videos and the convicted cases of sexual offendors he has studied.

It's like the perversion takes a life of it's own and it just wants carnality. It plunges from mere stranger women to women in the nearby. To even men in the nearby. To even 'cute' children. To more violent forms like torture lust or 'sniff' videos.

Yes, I am talking years for such a progression and there has a breaking of many unconscious/subconsciouss ethical walls. But it is porn. Now you watch porn casionally. Next year you watch it all the time and take time off for it. Next year you watch very violent porn. The year after you force all kinds of women into. Not everyone goes down the rollercoaster, but how do you think said people who suffer of this illness in the extreme form have come to be in that state? Just how do you indoctrinate a soldier to hate the enemy? especially if the enemy is no enemy? Repetition. Repeat until it becomes knowledge. At first you show a boy how to flirt. Later the boy teaches you new ways of how to flirt. It is the same with indoctrination. Just expose the mind to it in an environment where it is deemed as acceptable. Then one will slowly feed their own fire by themselves. It's human psychology.

 

Yes, I get your point and I thank you for the time and the attention you spent explaining this to me, but homosexuality isn't a perversion!! It is a part of natural and healthy human sexuality!! Do you tell a lesbian or gay or bisexual person in real life that they are perverts and they need to recover? I agree with you with what you say about perversion on little children and society as well but friend, homophobia offends me and this is 21st Century!

 

Nope I do not tell sexual people anything about it. Even if they just watch porn. Many will just argue or wont take my advice for advice. And 2 many would be a waste of my time and its disguisting. PMO and over sex remains a taboo over time, for a reason.

It is a perversion. All sexuality is perverted. Because all sex idea is an instinct. Sex, like fear, like emptions, etc are instinct. Instinct needs to be controlled. In society it needs to be at least disciplined. Like someone angers you, you do not hit. You do not kill. And tongue should be disciplined if not full controlled. Instincts are subconsciouss emotions (that are really a reaction to something perceived, in the present mind or in memory on the past or in imagination in a projected future) that are like mental poison or wave that can express in any part of the body. Same, you do not watch porn in public. All sex is sex.

Now the carnality of sex tends to have a trendline. Many people here experience being okay with seeing multiple people naked to seeing single sex people. Its all sex. This goes down to more brutal sex. Engaging into being okay with younger and older sex actors. And then sex jokes being acceptable in public and even formal language. And then violent sex. And then seeing sex as a purpose and essential component of life. And then injury sex. And then young children and animals. And killing sex. And whatnot.

Its all fancying the body. But this is not a strict timeline. As many children/teens have homosexual or zoolophilic or even mild pedophilic expressions, controlled or uncontrolled, from very young and early into sex exposure. I do not think it is correct to protest for female homosexuality acceptance in public. Tomorrow we protest for zoolophiloa rights as some animals do it among each other. And after tomorrow we protest for public orgy houses like in ancient cultures. And then we protest for younger and younger. In mexico already law is minimum 12 years. Those politicians should be punished like in the middle ages for they knew WELL what they were doing and how much they were making $$$$. Sex is sex and it needs to be controlled. Man is not animal. And even animal show great, great power of self control and awareness. People often insult animals. Fools. Animal is like a human with veeery little amount of discipline. That is the only difference. Mindfullness and the natural level of discipline that comes with it.

 

@SkyWavesMaker thanks for this post really inspiring and make to the point.