Wet dreams Relapse?

Nope. It doesn't.
Reason :- It occurs in unconscious state. Nofap is about self control of your conscious mind and unconscious mind is never under our control so don't worry about it.
2nd reason :- While after conscious PMO you feel like drained, guilty cheated...and like you have lost all of your powers and effect that you have acquired over a long period of your streak. While in WD it isn't the case. You don't feel drained and you conserve your power. Yes Chaser effect is there and a day or two after WD you're vulnerable to triggers and can be very horny, but that you can again control consciously.

 

Hey Krazykhan786, for some reason when I have a wet dream, I experience some of the same symptoms the next day as I had relapsed... such as grogginess and a foggy mind. Obviously they aren't as severe as the symptoms after a legitimate relapse. Any thoughts on this?

 

Certainly not a relapse! You cannot control your dreams or emotions, but you can control your behavior. Masturbation is behavior; it's choosing to masturbate. Carry on.

 

Depends on how you see it. I see it as a relapse. Cause its exactly the same as fapping. And you can control, but to a limiting degree, dreams. People have reported waking up by the force of will, but we can discuss that in another thread maybe.

I know the secrets to avoid wet dreams, to speed the recovery. It's very simple, and unlike most I believe that wet dreams either is withdrawal symptoms or a pathological process. Happens often when your stomach is filled with food, etc.

 

definitively no relapse.

had my second wet dream this night. it was awesome. thx god.

that was a little mess - 6 liter cum in the bed!

first wet dream day 46 - second wet dream day 54. without them my brain would explode.

the horniness would be monstrous!

edit:
wet dream is a release of your mind. no one can control his dreams. this is naturally - it is a gift during the abstinence-process.

 

No its not a relapse. Described pretty clearly in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=092UH6e0BWA

 

You guys are just so wrong. 2 nocturnal emissions in less than a month? That's not natural, that's because of your earlier pmo habits. The body shall absorb the sperm's energy, not waste it. You will realize that your emissions will be more and more frequent, in the end you'll have them almost every week, and it will block your recovery. There are cases when people had emissions four times during one night, is that normal also?
No, because they wake up and their energy is slightly decreased.

 

clumsy i dont think they block anything.

i want to sleep free - when i go sleeping then i go sleeping. (very wise words!)

and when i have a wet dream - ok then i have a wet dream.

i cant influence that. when my body/mind needs this release - then it takes it without my permission.

 

How come that a person that never had a PMO addicton dont got that kind of emissions? And you can control your mind to a limiting degree. However, try to rationalize it, but a wet dream is equal to a relapse, whether you like it or not. It's exactly the same as fapping.

 

Clumsy, whats your reference on the video? everything or is it something that you just completely disagree on?

 

People who do not have addictions to PMO do have wet dreams... they are far too common among young people and young adults. I do not understand how something 100% out of one's control can be chalked up to a relapse. You are unconscious... Wet dreams, whether you like it or not, are the bodies natural mechanism to rid of excess sperm. Period. End.

 

A wet dream is exactly the same as fapping. Its the same process, its slows down the reboot.
And normal people have maybe a wet dream a few times a year (teenager). PMO addicts who got them every week, thats not normal, its withdrawal symptom. And wet dreams are caused by excessive erotic fantasy, tight underwear and overeating. If you quit this you wont get wet dreams, you wont get a slowdown on the reboot. Im trying to help here only. but to say that wet dreams dont slow down the reboot is simply wrong, they are never desirable.

 

Wet dreams ARE NOT the same as M. Please stop making that assumption, they are miles apart. PMO addicts will get them every week because their body is used to expelling sperm every day or two, and the sudden stoppage is like stopping something cold turkey. After a while without PMO, the wet dreams will slow down.

You have NO control over them- therefore in my opinion, how is that considered a relapse? The actual conscious act of engaging in PMO is considered a relapse and is very damaging. But a wet dream, the bodies natural course of action to rid excess sperm while you are unconscious, cannot and is not considered a relapse in my opinion.

 

Clumsy, your thoughts are clumsily inaccurate.
Beauty, your thoughts are beautiful.

 

Wet dreams are NOT the same as masturbation.

 

It is absolutely not the same as fapping. One you do with full control the other is your bodys natural way of doing it. You cannot completely control it. It just happen. I think its wrong of you to say that wet dreams and fapping is the exact same thing. It ain't! theres a pretty big difference between the two.
You CAN'T over excess wet dreams. They do not cause ED, fapping like crazy does.

GIVE ME ONE article that shows or tells that wet dreams have caused over stimulation in the penis and the guy have had a dead dick when having sexual intercourse with a woman BECAUSE of wet dreams!
I do not ask you to give me an article that shows that extreme fapping does this because everyone on this forum knows it true. But I have never heard that wet dreams causes it.

 

If anyone has experience in practiced lucid dreaming, you'll notice that we are making decisions in our dreams(our mentality is usually unconscious of the dreaming aspect however and we tend to succumb to our "instincts", for example, after I gained a lot of confidence with girls a while back I started having more romantic dreams because my instincts led me to a more fearless, romantic behavior while dreaming). My experience with WDs during reboot have felt harmful because I remember the context of the WD in dreams and they all have been sexual fantasies(power-dominating) rather than the sensual-love I am looking to instill in my sexuality. As an experiment I'm going to begin light masturbation once a week but instead of masturbating to porn or sexual fantasies, I'm going to focus on a sensual experience with girls I have more love for in order to see if I can rewire my brain to move towards a more natural-beneficial sexuality. I'm excited! Also I feel like this might be a more straightforward approach, we'll see .

 

The question is, do wet dreams cancel out the benefits that come with NoFap?

I know we cannot control wet dreams but if they interfere with the benefits of NoFap then it’s bascially a relapse. Which seems very unfair considering we don’t control them and would make this whole NoFap journey kind of pointless.

 

Im actually exited to get a wet dream some time again. Last time i had one, was when puberty started. I believe when reooting & the body recovers, a wet dream can occur again.. m waiting for this