This is why men stay single in 2019

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by goodnice 2.0, Mar 9, 2019.

  1. goodnice 2.0

    goodnice 2.0 Fapstronaut

    Ya i didn’t mean to narrow down and say all women are like this but a lot are from what i’ve seen and i’m hoping to find a gurl like the one you have !
    That’s great
     
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  2. Wuzzaap

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    This actually is the middle eastern culture . Men and women should not lose their virginity until marriage.

    And from experience , living over there and in the west . Divorce rates are waaaay lower in the middle east
     
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  3. goodnice 2.0

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    yo i’m gonna edit the original post because i think those comments are really atrocious. I just included the whole quote because i agreed with the general gist and some of those points, but those misogynistic quotes are extreme MGTOW and i don’t align with that so sorry
     
  4. goodnice 2.0

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    Thank you for saying this. I think i definitely need to heal from some of the hurts i’ve experienced personally. And you’re right that is really toxic thinking and i wish the original poster wasn’t so degrading.

    I’m just working on my own self for the time being and not focusing on women. i don’t see the point in chasing women, sex, lust and seeking validation from women cuz it leads to pain and regret for me
     
  5. Finbarr_Seeker_of_Truth

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    What the other individual meant to say, though quite hyperbolicly in a very venting sort of way, is that a paradigm shift has taken place and that the current societal values displayed in the West favour women by a substantial margin in terms of how difficult it is to meet/acquire a sexual mate. He also makes reference to the erosion of incentives in terms of marriage as a institution and what this means for people in general. Divorce rates do tend to confirm this. I sincerely hope that you and your husband will stay together and happily so, till the day the Earth reclaims you. Humanity needs couples with your values. Generally speaking, such couples seem to constitute a minority. Additionally there are not many individuals, of the type you have described, living in cities such as Paris, Brussels, London, New York, Toronto, San Francisco etc. Hedonism is taking over. A relationship takes work, commitment, stamina and many other qualities that seemingly fewer and fewer individuals appear to have. Porn is poison. It makes ill, literally.
     
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  6. goodnice 2.0

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    Good point. It’s hard to find the good/smart ones, at least for me, cuz most seem so lost in their own ego/vanity.
     
  7. goodnice 2.0

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    Dude THANK YOU. THIS is what I was trying to get across not the women hating part!!
     
  8. goodnice 2.0

    goodnice 2.0 Fapstronaut

    Took the words right out of my mouth. My issue with this society is that i see fewer and fewer individuals with those admirable qualities. And women have wayyy more social currency and the whole dynamic is just screwed
     
  9. luke132

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    I have to say I listened to an interview with the author of the rational male and it scared the crap out of me.

    I think the rational male and the MGTOW movement/red pill movement is a toxic dangerous waste land.

    The author literally made out women need to be subservient to men, this is not a good outlook on life and not one I would ever adopt.

    I get how young guys get caught up in all this, they struggle to attract women, feel lost in the modern world which appears to be anti masculinity and then hear this author spouting part science part pseudo science that basically says to them yes it's not your fault you're single and then before you know it you become a frustrated angry female hater.

    Just check out https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/ for some examples.
     
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  10. Sharksvv

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    I think it’s important to note that comparing life in the Middle East vs the West is apples and oranges.

    I mean didn’t Saudi Arabia just recently allow women the right to drive? Women in general are still treated like property across the Middle East and women can’t even leave a marriage if they wanted to or they’ll be savagely beaten/beheaded, they can’t even show skin or they’ll be jailed/lynched etc

    Western society should strive to be as far away as possible from the culture of oppression of women in the Middle East.

    It’s no coincidence that Middle Eastern countries rank at the very bottom of best countries to be a woman.
     
  11. zeekland

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    I agree girls have a lot to be desired anymore, but the same can be said about men, there is always trash in the dating pool and society highlights the worst in people anymore. Personally I don't date a woman under a 750 credit score with a debt ratio higher than 40% (unless it's mortgage on a home), mainly because if she can't handle her finances then she will never tolerate my saving habits :) Looks and personality come after that little 3 digit wonder, I'm not looking for a freeloader that thinks the hole between her legs gives her freedom to bleed me dry.


    I suppose I fall under the MGTOW movement, it's too big of a risk for men anymore to take chances on sub-par women.
     
  12. That Oscar Wilde quote is fucking sick, can't wait for an excuse to use it, nice one.

    On the whole I agree with your post, but I don't think it's correct to say that, 'a good woman will be there for them (if he deserves her)' cos that implies its an inevitability. It is more likely that he'll snag her if he deserves her. So it would be stupid of him not to better himself (considering the other benefits in doing so anyway). But, there are no guarantees that he will meet the right woman. We should meet reality head on where possible.
     
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  13. Issah

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    And you're not alone I honestly think most people are struggling with those exact emotions, we are all outchea tryna heal and stray away from seeking outside validation/find our true self's. You're not alone and you'll be okay.

    But the same women you call "trash" could probably have gone through things 10 times worse than you even imagined and are just tryna cope with life just like you.

    No ones born a messed up person, life will mess you up man.

    Woman grow up being told that being a wifey or a girl friend is the main point of their exsistance, and many value companionship a little more than most men (sometimes way more), and men usually are more rounded in their life pursuits and can a little more easily use and disregard women.

    If someones not for you that's okay. But instead of just stringing her along for an ego boost or for sexual gratification, rather just ignore her. That's a real man/real human:- Respectfully knowing what's not for you and letting it go.

    Anyway. You'll be okay, and you're not alone. All the best man.
     
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  14. goodnice 2.0

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    That’s what i’ve been trying to do lately, thanks for your advice. Wish you the best too
     
  15. Lilla_My

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    I was strictly referring to marriage. A man can not repeatedly rape the soul of his wife by engaging in polyamorous behaviour behind her back and expect her to be there for him. Once she looses respect, the love will soon enough tag along.
     
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  16. Lilla_My

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    Couldn't agree more. Happened upon some misogynist preacher called Rollo Tommassi, that strongly believes in teaching young men all the tools they need to permanently damage their relationships with ordinary females.

    Young men have it tough these days, probably tougher in many ways than ever. There is without a doubt a lot of discrimination going on against them (lower grades in school for example and an alarming suicide rate due to the stigma of seeking help for depression), not to mention the lure of pornography, gaming and gambling. But to turn them into militant "alpha males" or soulless pick up artists can't possibly be the answer.

    Men need to be told that it's ok to show emotion and sensitivity, to cry, to ask for direction, to fall, and to pick themselves up again. Women aren't another species that needs to be conquered or kept in check with weird methods, we are just like you, some of us are good, some of us bad, most fall somewhere in between.
     
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  17. FormerFapaholic

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    There's one massive pitfall here that a number of guys do when starting - or even do NoFap. That's done on the basis that they're trying meet the desires or approvals of women. I do what meets my needs, my standards and my approval first and foremost. What other people say or think about me doesn't matter as much. In fact, I couldn't give two shits.

    Over time, I've been developing the mindset that my recovery from PMO addiction is done for ME. Not for anyone else. Because I want to become a better man. Upping my game, raising standards; striving for self-improvement in becoming the person I want to be. But also have a healthy mindset relationship and attitude towards women - as they are people as well.

    Before I finish:
    That is an excellent quote by the way.
     
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  18. potterykays

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    it is stereotype for me
     
  19. FormerFapaholic

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    That's really good. A healthy relationship. Sounds like you're both made for each other.
     
  20. goodnice 2.0

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    There we go. Excellent mindset bro
     
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