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There is no flat line.

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Lyart, Mar 8, 2017.

  1. Lyart

    Lyart Fapstronaut

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    Dear community,

    First of all, thank you for being such a good bunch of fellas.

    Reading through this forum showed me, how supportive and caring people can be towards each other.

    Nothing gives me more joy than to see that there is a group of lads opening their hearts and talking about it freely.

    I am very proud of being a part of this and I genuinely hope that we will continue to exist and share our experience here or maybe in real life.

    Still, I owe you to introduce myself.
    I am a young man on a big journey.
    25 years of age, hard working - and studying. I love what I do.
    My NoFap experience began weeks ago - but I stopped counting days because I believe fapping should not be part of my life anymore.
    I have a caring wife, who supports me on my task of self improvement.

    Reading through your experiences I came up with a few thoughts. I would like to share them, since you have shared yours.

    I believe there is no flatline.

    It crossed my mind when a fella in this forum told about his crippling depression when being at home.

    He said he knew how great NoFap was but could not handle to clean up his room or learn for an upcoming exam due to lack of motivation.

    My 2 cents:

    When I fapped, I suppressed my emotions. My emotional development came to a halt.

    Since I started nofap, I started to realise how aggressive of a person I was.

    Those around me always told me how calm of a person I have always been. How I could get over things. I thought that my sudden temper was a bad thing. It wasn't.
    I was just a coward all the time.

    Committing to nofap, I began to sharpen my senses. Who did I actually like ?
    Who was I ?

    All those suppressed feelings began to grow a part of me.
    Those urges. This anger, you know ? It's natural. Accepting the urges and the anger, I became a man.

    Therefore, I believe that the flat line Syndrom is an expression of boredom or suppressed sadness, even depression.

    Accept it.
    Those are your feelings and no one can take them from you. To feel is to be alive. But most important is; don't let them take control over you.


    How, you might ask:

    Here's how I did it:
    Start to read
    Start to write
    Lift weight
    Shave myself
    Start to eat healthy food
    Quit smoking
    I don't even drink beer anymore
    GET THINGS DONE. ACT.

    It will detract you from your rebooting process and at the same time, give you confidence.
    Start with little things.

    Note that all those new habits developed over a long period of time.
    All that matters, is focus on a task. Set yourself a goal. Become a winner !

    Flatline is not real. It's your emotions, your inner darkness or even depression. You have to face it and act.



    I love you all :-*

    Thanks for reading
     
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2017
  2. legolas_01

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    I am in ''flatline'' right now and I feel like I just PMO, but I did not watch any porn and/or hot scenes and I did not masturbate since 12 days (the starting of my reboot).
     
  3. Lyart

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    How do you know you're in a flat line ?
     
  4. legolas_01

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    Because that's what everyone says (i am in the right phase and i have the symptoms of the flat line).
     
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  5. Lyart

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    What did you do to improve your life today ?
     
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  6. legolas_01

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    Except abstaining from PMO, I did not change a lot of things since I don't have a lot of time. But I try to go to the gym as often as possible and I try to read more as well.
     
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  7. Lyart

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    What is it you have to spend time for instead of improving your life ? :-D
     
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  8. tendency14

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    I wish i can have a so called flatline, my energy is out of limits and i havent PMO in a long time, i have so much energy i can PMO 10 times a day without tiring, i need to get really calm to get to a little of that flat line if i can call it that way, my testosteron is in ultra high states, sometimes so much that i need to do something because i can feel the vibes in my whole body. I dont know if flatline even exsists to me, i ben waiting for it and im not going to PMO until i get to flatline because i really want to, believe me my energy is way too much, i really dont know why its so high, for now i think its gona take a while for me to get to a true flatline due to this ultra high energy levels, i think it could esily take years, i must add that i do not take any drugs, absolute nothing, i have a healthy diet, i do excersise to lower at least some energy, i see now PMO as a drug so calling it that way it would be in other words the drug that i have taken
     
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  9. señor

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    sorry but denying the existence of something based on an anecdotal observation completely trivializes the literally hundreds of people who have alluded to these symptoms at some point, including myself. the pure volume of these testaments by the members here are too great to be branded as "boredom or repressed sadness", and acting as if we're some fringe minority of ex-fappers who are preaching about some senseless canard of withdrawal symptoms may rub people the wrong way
     
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  10. tendency14

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    Its probably diferent from person to person, in my case i would love a flatline, i would actually want one of those flatlines than going around like a hungry animal everyware i go, because my testosteron levels are high and i have actually tried lowering them down intentionally but at the end i get high levels again, i wana see how a flatline feels for me it could actually be a reliefe, so i will happly wait for a good flatline. I tried PMO in excces to lower T levels and it would work but since now i know and aware that PMO is bad, i need something else to rely on, i try excersice, running, swimming, sports and i get to lower some energy and some T but even with that i still have the levels to get hyped with a girl, i mean cmon, i dont wana spoiler or anithing, but how can you be so calm(feeling totally nothing, flatline) wen an impresive hot girl passes by seductivlly, in my case i doesnt matter if i ran 20km or swam 10000m but i can asure you that if im exposed to a hot beutifull chick my T and energy levels will blast off like a rocket, so im happy to say i actually want a flatline to be in that state of not feeling so much wich would be a real relief to me
     
  11. Gladiatori

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    This shit is like crack. If u do crack a long time and stop body has withdrawal. My longest porn use was 1 year non stop 2x-5x a day. When i quit it was hell.longer than a month. I can tell you there is. From that experience i had yes. Also from chemical.withdrawal internally as any addictive drug.

    However this.time stop pmo I HAVE no.flat.cause i only relapse to it for a short time. P addiction more severe than ONLY m by far. Frequency of habit and.length are also key factor to determine if your body will have to adjust so much.
     
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  12. diddykong

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    The OP does raise some important points in that much of the root of addiction lies in suppressed emotion and escapism from those suppressed emotions. Addicts tend to then get "stuck in gear" where the focus of life becomes on fulfilling immediate desires rather than future ones. Recovery is only by accepting those previous, often unpleasant emotions and focussing on the future.

    The OP is allowed to offer their perspective. We all are. Don't criticize the OP for anecdotal evidence because this whole process is based on anecdotal evidence. There are no peer reviewed studies on flatline so the OPs view is as valid as anyone else's.

    When we think about "flatline", we have just attributed a word to a set of (what are actually different) emotions for everyone that we experience during the process. I'm fairly sure that, whatever the flatline entity is, no two people seem to have it the same which does make one wonder whether it is actually a thing or not. It's certainly not an inevitability during the process and we see it often where someone says that they are feeling down and someone else says "it's probably a flatline". Maybe they were actually just feeling down that day?
     
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  13. skeptical

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    He raises no important points other than creating doubt and misfortune in people who go through the flatline and want to know what is wrong with them. I did more than he did under the first time I was under flatline without understanding what flatline was, and nothing helped. I did everything from changing my sleeping routine to strict times, eating habits to even must-do exercises I had to perform everyday.

    If you don't understand that flatline is part of the process and not everyone go through them, you don't have to make a thread saying it does not exist, that is insultive to people who currently is going through the process.
     
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  14. Gladiatori

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    Ok i get it. Our minds have the power to create a.flatline. However a.withdrawal from this garbagebis also true.
     
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  15. Lyart

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    There is no flat line, remember :p
    Have you tried auto-suggestion?

    My friend, millions of people believe in god but that doesnt make him real :)
     
  16. Shang-Chi

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    Flatline. Fuck a flatline I ain't dead yet. Stupid ass 'fap pop culture' terminology. Actually it's just slang for a slump in life outside of fapper terms.

     
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  17. Shang-Chi

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    If everyone told you to jump off a cliff, would you?
     
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  18. diddykong

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    The flatline is essentially what they call PAWS in addiction (post acute withdrawal syndrome). The thing that's recommended to get through it is self care and being in a good place mentally. Which is pretty much what the OP was suggesting.

    People talk about this like it's an illness whereas I really don't think it is and certainly don't think it helps to think of it as such.
     
  19. RedPillRebooter

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    The flatline is real. I went through multiple flatlines throughout my 3 years of rebooting.

    The flatline is terrible, you have no motivation, you feel tired, you cant get it up. It last over a month.
    Once you get out of it you never wanna go back.
     
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  20. Gladiatori

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    I think the.thing here is hard to pinpoint. I have notice certain attitude of addicts across all kind of addictions. Sometimes you have guys who would get stuck in the negative mindset of being flatline, or alcohol withdrawal. So if we think negative, if we convince our mind we are stuck in the swamp of steaming green goo and cannot escape; well then we have possibly created our own.extended flatlines!!! Mind is.powerful.

    From positive way to deal with cessation. Its so much better to immerse yourselfnin positive.thing people.challenges. Forget the flatline. Any money says flatline is 50% mind created. At a minimum!
     

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