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The truth about sex

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by Deleted Account, Feb 23, 2019.

  1. Sex is a mutual thing. Wanting sex as a male is ethically wrong if you don't have a woman wanting it as well. You are objectifying women which is wrong take on love.

    Sex works like this: if you have the looks, a woman will like you and you will get laid. If you don't have the looks, you will never get laid, so you will adapt to celibacy like other men did before you.

    Fapping and porn are bad for your mind since they teach you to lust over women which is ethically wrong since attraction HAS to be mutual. Women are humans not objects, you shouldn't "want" women.

    The reason you feel bad after fapping is because you only lust but not receive any lust in return. There is no attraction and this lust leads to more lust and you end up being hooked up on your own perverted grasp of sex.

    Accept your celibacy with grace, if women don't want you, that's ok. It's normal for most men to be undesired, that's how nature works. Accept defeat with grace and live the way God intented for you.
     
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  2. bobross

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    That is some weird flawed logic there mate. You don't objectify a woman by simply being interested in her and her not interested in you, objectifying occurs when all a woman means to you is a warm body to make you feel good. And as far as (not) having looks, that's just a vain statement. Attraction does not have to be mutual, nor will it always be. In fact, I'd go as far as say that most often than not it is not mutual. But attraction is normal, and natural, it's the way you react to it that may or may not be okay.
    In fact, one could argue you are objectifying women yourself, and to quote, "If you don't have the looks, you will never get laid, so you will adapt to celibacy like other men did before you". You summarize the relationship with a woman as a matter of sex or no sex. By your reasoning, a married man cannot be anything else but some sort of sex symbol, that makes women sweat by simply being in their vicinity. There's more to attraction that that, and if the other ain't interested in you, that's fine, whether it's friendship, or romance, or sex.
    Yes, PMO can twist our minds indeed... Life is not a lottery. Man likes woman, woman doesn't like the man. Poof! He's a disgusting ugly pervert, tough luck.
     
  3. i disagree, even if you like a woman for her character too, personality can still be seen as an object. You like her because she does something to you, just like you like wine or frugs because they make you feel something. But a woman is a human not a tool.

    then its not attraction

    you need to override that reaction since it does you harm

    sex is, when does right, is the glue of a relationship

    he is exactly that.

    exactly. notci how men who express desire as seen as creepy and danagerous yet men who are in relationships are always accepted
     
  4. bobross

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    Please tell me I am getting trolled
     
  5. elevate

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    "Women don't want me."
    "This is how god intends it."
    "This is just how nature works."
    "It's okay if you're unwanted."
    "Accept defeat."
    "Accept celibacy with grace."

    What the fuck? Lol.

    You're doing a great job rationalizing in order to never make any efforts of improvement. To never challenge those limiting beliefs. To never push beyond this identity you've created. To stop taking risks and growing beyond your current place.

    You seem to believe that you know a lot about sex / attraction / women since you're claiming to know the TRUTH about it.

    Your lack of success with women is not because of God, nature, or your physical attributes. It's your toxic and victimized mindset that has you convinced that there's no point in ever trying.

    What ethics? Who made these ethics? You? I find women physically desirable all the time. Yes, I also want to fuck them. That doesn't mean that's all I want to do with them. That doesn't mean I'm evil, corrupt, or morally wrong. That doesn't mean that I'm only attracted to physical beauty. It means that I see something that I like and I'm going to go for what I want. I'm going to get to know her more. Explore more of her. The rest is up to her choice. If she doesn't want what I want, then I'll move on... but I won't feel guilt or shame for sexually wanting a woman. Just as women shouldn't be ashamed with their sexual desires either.

    Someone that believes physical attributes are the end all be all of how attraction works is someone that hasn't had much experience with relationships. Just take a look around in society. Not every hot guy or hot girl is with someone else that has strong physical attributes. There's more to it than that. Especially in relationships that are solid and long term.

    You can continue to believe your flawed delusions of how this all works if you want to continue rationalizing your way out of ever facing and solving your problems and dissatisfaction with these areas of your life... but for those that want to grow, improve, and want more for themselves in life, your mindset and understanding is not the way to go.
     
  6. My experience is different... my whole life I'm told im very good looking... but for many years girls haven't been interested for me a bit.... that's because i was filled with anxiety, confusion about life, negative emotions, pmo addiction etc.
    Of course good looks are important, and a part of the attraction, but i would say equally important (if not more) is the energy that you are emitting.. the vibe you give off.. good looking in combination with good energy, being proud, content, happy with your self and life... will do so much good i believe :)
     
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  7. elevate

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    That's the way to go.

    If you believe looks are everything for attraction and you don't have the looks, then your thoughts, feelings, and behavior will act accordingly to self sabotage your opportunities in life. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Then you do everything half assed in order to protect your fragile ego from emotional pain and expected failure which ruins your mediocre efforts. Then you naturally rack up negative experiences which reinforce your flawed beliefs more and more until one day you finally give up.

    The benefit of negative or victim minded thinking is gaining a sense of control. If you believe that women aren't attracted to you and you get rejected, then you can always say "see, I knew this would happen." You also gain control by not even trying. You don't lose anything, but you also don't win anything. Everything is comfortable and certain. Control. It becomes a coping mechanism. A rationalization to never grow as a person.
     
  8. Peiskos

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    I mean there’s meaningless sex and then there’s sex with someone you love and who loves you back.

    At the end of the day the act of sex is still sex even if it is void of love but it’s a lower quality of sex. When you have sex with an escort you’re just going through the motions of sex, with someone you love you’re much more touchy feely the if that makes sense.

    At my lowest points as I’ve mentioned before I frequented up to 20 escorts over the course of a number of years, the sex was meaningless and often unsuccessful due to my pied.

    I have a girlfriend now and of course the sex is entirely different from an emotional standpoint. Sex with someone you don’t love and who doesn’t love you can still feel good physically but you’ll feel nothing emotionally, with someone you love it feels good in every single way.
     
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  9. phwrancesco

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    You shouldn't want women?

    Are you serious?

    Women love to be desired and it's totally healthy and natural for a man to desire to have them.

    If you don't want women you don't deserve to get laid.
     
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  10. Human attraction is beyond our power

    there are some things that cannot be improved

    a human is a thinking creature not a tophy/object
     
  11. Peiskos

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    It is also human nature for us to consider it being a trophy to attain a wife and children over the course of your life. Something to achieve and fight for just as any athlete would a tournament.

    So in a way it’s normal, you can consider a woman a trophy and she could consider you a trophy, just as long as you both genuinely love one another everything is A-ok.
     
  12. Also I always have felt like sex is the 'ultimate goal', the ultimate destination of love... now i see sex as something which can be very nice & enjoyed.. but the deeper connection is everything... the meaningful relation is so much more fulfilling than just lust gratification... life has so much more to offer
     
  13. Capt. U

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    Thanks for sharing mate, while I do agree with you that pmo'ing tends to get one obssesed with sex. I do not agree with the most men are undesired and to accept defeat. I know I'm not look like a stud but I'm on a path of spiritual, physical and mental growth. Pretty much, looks will look small compared to ones's values and character as one sharpen's them.
     
  14. 1978

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    So, God's plan is for a large number of men to be unhappy and sexually frustrated? This God you speak of sounds like a maniac to me!
     
  15. women arent objects. you cant make them like you. it just happens
     
  16. I dont know about this. I dont even understand consensual sex as a concept, all I can comprehend is rape
     
  17. lol no. loos are everything. most men who get laid only know like two words "fuck" and "fucking". Women just want tall dudes with square faces
     
  18. you can find happiness in other things. our role is to live and protect women, the childbearers of our planet so that they can have sex with men of their liking and spread their genes
     
  19. overclocked

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    Damn, OP went full incel
     

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