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The Three Treasures Thread

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Battlemaster Lotus Praxis, Dec 1, 2015.

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  2. Nice videos @TheUnnasumingMammothrept :)

    An interesting article copied from http://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu...l-chinese-medicine/what-qi-and-other-concepts:

    What Is Qi? (and Other Concepts)

    After 2,500 years of evolution, TCM has become a very rich and sophisticated system of rational medicine with a great diversity of theories and applications. But, in its essence, it seeks to understand and facilitate harmony in human life.

    It is based on a very simple principle: any system that is in harmony tends towards health, wellbeing, and sustainability. A system that is in disharmony tends towards illness, disease, suffering, and collapse.

    What is a system in TCM?
    A system is comprised of everything that creates and sustains it. Everything is interconnected and interdependent. If all of the parts of a system are in harmony with one another, then the whole system is in harmony. Disturb one thing and you create a disturbance that ripples through the whole system.

    This principle applies to any and all systems. For example, it applies as equally to a human being as it does to a family, community, or the environment. So we must take care to consider our actions and to take things as a whole.

    What are the fundamental concepts?
    Two concepts that are unique and fundamental to Chinese medicine are Qi (usually translated as "vital energy") and yin and yang (the harmony of all the opposite elements and forces that make up existence). These two concepts form what we might call the "roots" of Chinese medicine.

    Springing from these roots are the basic principles and theories about the dynamics of Qi and yin and yang, which form the "stems" of Chinese medicine.

    And resting on these principles is the rest of TCM theory and application, such as the causes of patterns of disharmony, which form the "branches."

    What is Qi?
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    TCM starts with the concept of Qi (pronounced "chee").

    • Qi is energy in the very broadest sense possible.
    • Qi is universal.
    • Qi embraces all manifestations of energy, from the most material aspects of energy (such as the earth beneath your feet, your computer, and flesh and blood) to the most immaterial aspects (light, movement, heat, nerve impulses, thought, and emotion).
    Life, it is said in the Chinese medical classics, is a gathering of Qi. A healthy (and happy) human being is a dynamic but harmonious mixture of all the aspects of Qi that make up who we are.

    Qi is in a state of continuous flux, transforming endlessly from one aspect of Qi into another. It is neither created nor is it ever destroyed; it simply changes in its manifestation.

    In order to talk about the relationships between the various aspects and manifestations of Qi within a given context, Chinese philosophy employs the concept of yin and yang.

    What are yin and yang?
    In the Chinese perspective, given the importance of "taking everything as a whole," all things are relative. A thing can be understood only in relation to something else. This is the essential idea behind the use of the terms yin and yang.

    Yin and yang are terms used to describe relative opposite qualities or manifestations of Qi. If yin is form, then yang is function. If yin is material, then yang is immaterial.

    • Yin refers to aspects or manifestations of Qi that are relatively material, substantial, condensing, solid, heavy, descending, cold, moist, cooling, dark, passive and quiescent.
    • Yang refers to aspects or manifestations of Qi that are relatively immaterial, amorphous, expanding, hollow, light, ascending, hot, dry, warming, bright, aggressive, and active.
    What is their relationship?
    Everything that is yin contains some element of yang, and everything that is yang contains some element of yin. There is nothing so solid or material (yin) that does not contain some energetic vibration (yang), and nothing so kinetic or immaterial (yang) that does not also contain some material substance (yin). Even light, so Einstein tells us, has mass.
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    Yin and yang are continuously changing; they constantly adjust to one another, and are endlessly transforming one into the other in an eternal dance of becoming. This wonderful concept of change is beautifully illustrated in the simple image of the "yin-yang symbol."

    When all of the yin and yang aspects of Qi are in harmony with one another, there is health, wellbeing and contentment. When yin and yang are in disharmony, when there is too much or too little of one aspect of Qi relative to another, then there is illness, pain and suffering.

    How are the concepts of Qi and yin and yang applied in TCM?
    TCM provides guidelines for both the practitioner and patient on how to best facilitate harmony between yin and yang in any set of circumstances and how to create and circulate an abundance of Qi to sustain health and wellbeing. These are the "stems" of TCM that spring from the root concepts of Qi and yin and yang.

    To assist the practitioner and patient in this task, TCM offers several different perspectives on the dynamics of Qi and the interplay of yin and yang. These different perspectives are like different types of maps of the same territory.

    Different perspectives or "maps"
    For example, if you were trying to understand what a particular part of a country is like, you might choose a topographical map showing elevation; a geological map showing the rock and soils; a vegetation map showing forests, prairies, and swamps; a watershed map showing rivers, lakes and streams; a road map; a population density map; or even a map showing points of historical interest. The map you chose would depend on your particular need or needs. But one map would not do it all.

    Likewise TCM has different "maps" that explain what is happening in the human body, according to the need. Some of the more commonly used "maps" in TCM include:

    • Five Phases of Transformation (sometimes called "Five Elements") - considers the stages of change or transformation that Qi goes through as it shifts between yin and yang.
    • Vital Substances - considers the various ways in which Qi manifests in the body.
    • The TCM Organ Systems (called Zang Fu) - describe how the various forms of Qi (as Vital Substances) are created, used, and stored in the body.
    • The TCM Channel System (called Jing Luo) - describes and maps out how Qi and the various vital substances circulate in the body.
    • TCM Pathogenesis Theory - is actually a collection of several theories which describe how disharmony is generated in the body.
    You can click on each of the links above for more information. Read below to learn more about the last item in the list, the causes of disharmony. These causes provide insight on how you can use TCM in your life to safeguard or even improve your health.

    What are some causes of disharmony in the body?
    Because the dynamics of yin and yang are always shifting and changing in the world around us, we must continuously respond to these changes in order to maintain the harmony of yin and yang in our lives and so maintain our health and wellbeing.

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    If we do not make an appropriate response to change, then the harmony of yin and yang in our life may tilt into a pattern of disharmony and subsequently into illness, disease and suffering.

    The potential causes of disharmony fall into two general categories: deficiency and excess.

    Deficiency
    This usually refers specifically to a deficiency of one or more of the manifestations of Qi within the body (see "vital substances"). But it can also refer more generally to an insufficiency of any of the things that would normally sustain and nourish us in life, such as food, warmth, shelter, physical and mental stimulation, the interaction with other living beings, and, of course, love.

    To make an appropriate response to the ever shifting dynamics of yin and yang, we must have a sufficient amount of Qi. Since most of the Qi we use in life is extracted from what we eat and the air that we breathe, Chinese medicine places considerable importance upon an adequate and appropriate diet of fresh, high quality food, and the opportunity and ability to breathe good, clean air.

    Excess
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    This refers to the presence of something that is in some way detrimental to our nature but can also (and this is more commonly the case for many of us) refer to or an overabundance of something relative to our need for it. Examples of excess factors might include:

    • Environmental toxins, such as pollution or toxic chemicals
    • Excessive environmental influences, such as too much heat, cold or humidity;
    • Dietary excess
    • Excessive emotions (i.e. too much worry and pensiveness, too much sadness, grief, fear, anger, even too much joy can be harmful)
    • Excessive physical activity
    • Too much thinking
    • Excessive sexual activity.
    Avoiding Disharmony
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    To avoid disharmonies due to deficiency or excess, we must have sufficient mindfulness, and mental clarity to perceive the world and determine our needs. And we must determine how we can meet those needs without creating new problems for ourselves or creating disharmony in the world around us.

    An unquiet or disordered mind (i.e. a distracted mind or a mind engaged in perpetual multi-tasking, a mind filled with worry, or a mind just plain "stressed out") could be considered to be not only the result of disharmony but also the potential cause of further disharmony.

    This is why the cultivation of a quiet mind is so important in the cultivation of health and wellbeing. Meditation, tai chi, qigong and other yogic practices have always been central in the practice of Chinese medicine and most TCM practitioners would agree that the cultivation of a quiet mind is the single most important thing we can do for ourselves.
     
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  3. And now a quick spotlight on Jing.

    I think alot of people here have wasted good amounts of Jing through ejaculating an unhealthy amount of times in their life. Moral of the story is retain, transmute, and sublimate your sex energy for sometime if not for the rest of your life :) If and when you do choose to be sexually active do so with great care and moderation....if you care about having high levels of qi and jing that is. Non-ejaculatory sex will be discussed later on as it can be a valuable tool to maintain high energy levels and yet still be sexually active. There have been threads discussing it which I will link and bump just to spread the knowledge in future posts.

    An article (written with TCM Doctors, Herbalists, and Acupuncturists in mind as the audience) by Master Herbalist Ron Teeguarden of www.dragonherbs.com, copied from http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=32900

    Replenishing and Restoring Jing
    By Ron Teeguarden, MH

    I learned an important principle from my great Taoist Master Sun Hak. He taught me that all people "leak" Jing, and that we can mitigate or stop this leaking, and as a result strengthen our life force, develop enhanced adaptability and lengthen our life.

    He taught me that, from a Taoist point of view, the first things you do with a new student (or "client" or "patient") are to replenish their Jing and establish "protection."


    Jing is the primal life force in living beings. It is our genetic stock and it determines the power of our life. Jing is a fundamental determinant of our potential for a long life. A person with an abundance of Jing will most likely be healthy, strong and resilient, and can achieve great longevity. Unfortunately, for those who would like to live forever, Jing is depleted by life itself, moment by moment and day by day. All disease, minor or major, diminishes Jing; and in turn, in a vicious cycle, reduced Jing makes us more susceptible to disease, degeneration and general aging. As Jing slowly or quickly runs out, we age, degenerate and then die. All death is ultimately associated with the loss of Jing.

    Jing "leaks" away as we age or during disease. Master Sun Hak therefore emphasized that it is essential that a person discover where, how, when and why they "leak" Jing. And then they must change their lifestyle and habits so as stop the leaking. From a Taoist point of view, meditation, focused contemplation, the inner and outer exercises (neigong and qigong), diet and herbs can all play key roles in eliminating "leaking." Although acupuncture does not directly boost Jing in the body, it can harmonize the body in dramatic ways so as to prevent leaking and to allow the body to restore Jing with tonic food and herbs.

    From the Lingshu section of the Yellow Emperor's Classic:

    "Xue and Mai, Ying and Qi, Jing and Shen are stored by the Five Zang. If a situation becomes such that by a succession of overflowings (leaking) and invasion they leave the Zang, then Jing is lost, and Hun and Po are carried away in an uncontrollable agitation."

    Almost all stress diminishes Jing. If a person is highly adaptive, and possesses an abundance of free flowing qi, one may be able to overcome a great deal of minor daily stress for a long time. However, stress draws on our Jing and unless the Jing is replenished, we will lose a little bit every day of our lives. Jing is NOT automatically replenished as qi is. It simply goes away unless we know how to supplement it. A heavy or acute stress can drain a large amount of Jing quickly, resulting in overnight aging. This loss is known as "leaking."

    The five primary organs (Zang) are all considered to be Yin because they all store Jing. However, the Kidney is the central and most powerful reservoir of Jing for the entire body/mind. When we speak of the Kidney from a traditional Asian point of view, of course, we are including the structures and functions of the renal kidneys; the adrenal glands, both cortex and medulla, and their secretions and hormones; the reproductive glands, tissues and associated hormones, in both males and females; the skeletal structures, critically, from the point of view of longevity, the inner bone structure that houses, protects, nurtures and modulates bone marrow; the bone marrow itself, the source of stem and progenitor cells for the whole body throughout our lifetime; major aspects of the brain and mind; all the sense organs, and especially the sense of hearing and the tissues and organs that support these functions; and much of the functionality of the autonomic nervous system that controls fight and flight, courage and fear. When Asian health care focuses its attention on the Kidney, it is a priori focusing on maintaining, increasing and regulating Jing – and on stopping the leaking of Jing.

    All of the Yin organs become more stable when they have an abundance of Jing stored within their tissues – especially when the Kidney function is strong. When functioning optimally, these Yin organs conserve Jing. They do not "leak." This goes double for the Kidney.

    Jing is one of the three "Treasures" and according to Taoist and traditional Chinese health principles, Jing must be protected and conserved. However, Yin organs can "leak," and generally do. "Leaking" in this case is defined as any loss of energy which should be stored. There are many causes for leaking.

    An inflammation, for example, causes a leak of energy and resources from the body. It requires enormous energy on the part of the body to maintain an inflammatory response. Even a small inflammation like a hangnail, pimple or eye inflammation can drain Jing. Chronic inflammatory conditions like chronic gum inflammation are silent Jing leaks with a high bill. A huge inflammation as might occur with an organ disease, traumatic injury or autoimmune condition is a grave drain on Jing. Those with chronic inflammations die earlier than they would if they were inflammation-free, often by decades.

    More than 50 percent of all heart attacks are the result of chronic inflammatory conditions in the major arteries near the heart. Alzheimer's Disease, Cancer, Diabetes and COPD, among thousands of other disorders, all have an inflammatory component that drains Jing and in and of itself shortens life. Some of the famous anti-aging, tonic, longevity herbs of Asia are famous for their ability to constrain and eliminate inflammation. For example, Gynostemma leaf, an herb that is consumed by the longest lived group of people on earth, is known to counteract dozens of inflammatory conditions, as well as chronic low grade inflammation. This general inflammation is now well established to be a cause of aging and premature death. Gynostemma fights this "inflammaging" and thus prolongs youthfulness, prevents degenerative disorders and extends life. It does this by repressing the activity of the universal inflammatory molecule in every cell of our body, known as nuclear factor kappa B (NFkB). Gynostemma may be consumed as a dietary supplement, in tonic formulations or as a tea to reduce false fire and thus diminish leaking. Trans-Resveratrol operates in a similar manner and has been shown to extend the life of all animals so far tested.

    This makes perfect sense to all of us who have been involved in Chinese health care. Inflammation and its symptoms are called "false fire" in Chinese medicine. The Taoists have been teaching for over three thousand years that chronic false fire in and around the heart will ultimately result in heart failure, kidney failure, or both. Sun Hak (Sung Jin Park), my Taoist teacher, explained that as we become older, the Yin Jingbecomes weaker. This allows Heart Yang to expand uncontrollably and attack the heart. This shortens life. To the Taoists, both Kidney Yin (Yin Jing) and Heart Yin must be maintained in order to control Heart Yang. Yang also diminishes as we grow older and eventually must be supplemented in everyone, but Yin deficiency goes to the root of false fire. Yang deficiency goes to the root of advancing impotence, feebleness, sluggishness and physical decline.

    Where You Come In

    As a practitioner of the Asian health and healing arts, you encounter leaking every day, all day long. A person with a chronic cough, pain, an injury or menstrual irregularity, are all are leaking Jing. A person engaged in a bad relationship or playing a rough sport is leaking. You yourself are leaking as a caregiver.

    It is a primary job of the professional herbal practitioner to discover where and how energy is being leaked, determine why it is being leaked, to plug the leak and to re-establish energy and functional balance in that leaking organ. This is one of the primary secrets to becoming a master practitioner of the Chinese healing arts. He or she who can discover such leaks and who knows what to do about it can be my herbalist.

    The great Taoist sage Ancestor Lu said "Jing is controlled by Qi. Once Qi runs outside (leaks), Jing eventually leaks out as well. Therefore, to stabilize Jing one should guard the Qi."

    Restoring Jing

    Here is one of the greatest teachings of the Orient: Jing can be replenished and restored. It can even be increased on a constitutional level by those who know the secrets and try very hard! This is the basis of Taoist life cultivation.

    First, we should attempt to stop the leaking. Second, we should provide protection from that which is causing leaking. Third, we restore Jing to fullness. Fourth, we establish a full state of radiant health ("health beyond danger") through the art of life cultivation.

    We should stop the leaking by whatever means we have at our disposal. As acupuncturists and herbalists, you have a wealth of skills to stop leaking. Of course, you must focus on it in order to achieve it. It is very important that you do not just treat symptoms, though symptoms must be addressed. Remember always that most conditions have deep roots, usually reaching down to the Three Treasures themselves (Jing, Qi/Blood and Shen). Never-ever forget that emotions usually play a key role in leaking. Habits must be ascertained and looked at (openly or discretely) and changed where necessary to stop the leaking.

    Modulating one's stress level is a primary key to mitigate "leaking." Chronic and/or acute stress promotes inflammation, adrenal hyperactivity, hormone imbalance, sleep disturbance, emotional upheaval and much more. Either stopping the source of the excessive stress or taking measures to deflect and mitigate the effects of the stress are critical. Meditation, exercise, recreation, hobbies, giving and serving all tend to reduce stress. Adaptogenic herbs are among the most important health substances on earth. They promote adaptability. Schizandra, Astragalus, Rhodiola, Ginseng, Gynostemma, Goji, Eleuthero and Polyrhachis Ant are profound adaptogens that can fundamentally improve our stress response, preventing the loss of Jing to stress.

    Herbs can play a profound role in stopping leaking and replenishing Jing. Both tonic and medicinal herbs are used to stop the leaking. The restoration process, however, is all about tonification.

    The reason tonic herbs are central to Taoist life cultivation is because the tonic herbs restore the Three Treasures (Jing, Qiand Shen). Sun Simiao (581-682 A.D.) a prominent physician of the Tang Dynasty, consumed tonic herbs every day of his life until he died. Master Sun wrote Important Prescriptions Worth a Thousand Pieces of Gold, a conglomeration of the medical achievements before the 7th century and is considered a Chinese medical classic. Sun Simiao insisted on drinking Goji wine in the morning and at night, and he lived to be 101 years old. Li Shizhen, arguably the greatest herbalist in the history of China and author of the "Compendium of Medical Herbs," consumed tonic herbs every day until they died. Sun Simiao lived to be over 100 years old and remained more than lucid until the end. Xiao Peigen, the greatest herbologist of our modern era and semi-retired director of the Institute of Materia Plant Medica in Beijing is an avid user of anti-aging tonic herbs.

    Should a weak person with false fire take tonic herbs? Resoundingly YES. They may simply need to restore Jing to restore much of their health. Of course, as their guide, you will be careful to provide them with the guidance they need to restore Jing, Qi and Shen safely and efficiently. The person with false fire condition would need Yin tonifying herbs and herbs that quell fire. American Ginseng, Gynostemma, Tortoise Shell and Dendrobium come to mind.

    Jing deficiency is essentially a "weak (or nearly dead) battery." One could compare Jing to the battery in a car, where Qi is like the gasoline. Most people need Yin Jingtonics first: herbs like Heshouwu, Goji, Dendrobium, Ligustrum, Steamed Rehmannia, Asparagus root, Tortoise Shell and Schizandra. These Yin Jing tonics will quickly re-establish a baseline of Jing. It is like recharging their battery. If done correctly, with high quality tonic herbs from Di Tao sources, a person can be out of Jing deficiency danger in one hundred days. If the leak is resolved, Jing replenishment is generally fool-proof.

    Qi tonics are necessary for both vitality and protection. Any person can start taking qi tonics at the same time they start taking Yin Jing tonics. Especially profound at restoring qi, strengthening metabolism and respiration, and boosting the immune system on all levels, are the major qi tonics: high quality Asian Ginseng, American ginseng, Reishi mushroom, Astragalus root, Atractylodes, Rhodiola (Himalayan or Russian), Eleuthero (Siberian Ginseng), Schizandra, Licorice root, Chinese Mountain Ant (Polyrhachis), Codonopsis, Dioscorea (Mountain Yam), Siberian Chaga and Ashwaganda.

    Blood tonics may be very useful for those who have been leaking blood or not producing it. Of course the cause of the blood-leaking must be addressed. Great blood tonics include Dang Gui, He Shou Wu, Goji, Steamed Rehmannia, Deer Antler and Longan fruit. There's no question that green vegetables play a key role in blood building as well.

    Since most "leaking" has an emotional and/or spiritual context, the great Shen tonics of Chinese herbalism play a key role. Reishi mushroom is king in this regard. I believe that most Asian Taoists throughout history would agree that Reishi stops leaking at the level of qi and Shen, and allowsJing to grow. Reishi mushroom should be part of every program to stop leaking and restore the Three Treasures. Once Yin Jing is partially restored, the moderate (gentle) Yang Jing tonics can be added to the restorative program. These would include Eucommia bark, the remarkably effective Yang tonic that is also a profound Yin Jing tonic herb. Eucommia bark is safe for almost anyone right from the beginning, but it is for sure safe after an initial blast of Yin tonic herbs. Deer Antler and Deer Placenta are the most powerful Jing tonics of them all. These two "herbs" are both Yin and Yang, and they restore Jing better and faster than anything else on Earth.

    Last, but not least in this discussion of leaking and restoration, are the astringent "locking" herbs, adored by the Taoists for stopping and preventing leaking of Jing. King of the locking herbs is the Schizandra berry from Manchuria (not the southern variety of Schizandra commonly marketed to unknowledgeable Americans). Schizandra stops leaking throughout the body and helps all the organs to store Jing more effectively. It is particularly powerful at storing and protecting the Jing of the Kidney. Schizandra is the quintessence of Chinese herbs. It enters all 12 meridians, nurtures all five elements (thus the name "Five Flavor Fruit") and tonifies all Three Treasures. Other locking herbs may (should) be used and these include Cornus fruit, Ligustrum fruit and Astragalus seed. Great locking formulations are available that are gentle, powerful and directly stop leaking of Jing.

    The Bottom Line

    There are some who believe that Jing cannot be restored. This is a terrible fallacy. A serious student of the Asian health arts can find hundreds of references to the art of growing Jing in the classical literature. The greatest herbal masters in history personally and professionally practiced the art of Jing tonification for themselves and their clients. All emperors of China and Korea have consumed Jing tonics to fortify their Jing, and anti-leaking herbs are always included.

    The fact is, Jing is very easy to restore. Acupuncture, Taoist yoga cannot directly restore Jing, but they can make restoration much more efficient. It is perhaps the greatest secret of the Orient that one's life force, Jing, can be maintained, stored and even increased. Some practitioners have heard that constitutional (prenatal) Jing cannot be replaced or restored, but there are certainly methods in the Taoist yogic system that purport to accomplish just that.

    That issue notwithstanding, anyone and everyone can dramatically reduce or stop leaking their Jing through conscious behavior, thought, meditation and lifestyle adjustments. Herbs and tonic foods supplement Jing. With some focus, one can restore Jing and regain their life.

    Click here for more information about Ron Teeguarden, MH.
     
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  4. And let us wrap up the introductory spotlight real quick here with this short article from http://www.sacredlotus.com/go/foundations-chinese-medicine/get/shen-spirit-chinese-medicine:

    Shen (Spirit) in Chinese Medicine

    Shen can be translated as "Spirit" or "Mind", and implies our consciousness, mental functions, mental health, vitality, and our "presence".

    Shen lives in the Heart, where it retires to sleep during the night. If the Shen is disturbed, there may be insomnia. Shen is specifically said to live in the Blood Vessels (part of the system of the Heart) and to be nourished by the Blood. In TCM pathology, therefore, deficient Blood may fail to nourish the Shen. Alternatively, Heat (of various Organs) may disturb the Shen.

    State of the Shen is said to be visible in the eyes. Healthy Shen produces bright, shining eyes, with vitality. Disturbed Shen produces dull eyes, which seem to have a curtain in front of them - as if no one were behind them. Often seen in those with long-term emotional problems or after serious shock (even a shock that occurred a long time ago.)

    Healthy Shen depends on the strength of the Essence (stored in Kidneys) and Qi (produced by Spleen and Stomach). Thus, Shen is dependent on the Prenatal Jing and the Postnatal Jing. If Essence and Qi are healthy, the Shen will be nourished. As mentioned above, the Shen lives in the Blood Vessels, part of the Heart system in TCM. Blood is closely related to Qi in TCM, and is formed from the Postnatal Jing derived from food and fluids, hence Blood formation is simultaneous with that of the formation of Qi.

    Jing, Qi and Shen are the "three treasures" in TCM. They represent three different states of condensation of Qi, ranging from Jing (more fluid, more material) to Qi, more rarefied, and Shen, more rarefied and immaterial.

     
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  5. How do you recover shen?
     
  6. Ever heard of reishi?
     
  7. Mushroom, yes! Using that now. Ever heard of schizandra berry?
     
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  8. Consuming it daily. Ever heard of He Shou Wu (Fo-Ti)?
     
  9. You buy the actual berries? I just bought supplement of schizandra berries. I ordered schiZandra on amazon, but they sent me schiSandra. Do you know if there are any difference? And if I take schisandra, will it still work?

    Yeah I have heard of he shou wu, what does it heal? What is it comparable to? Ashwagandha? Ginseng?

    Ever heard of shilajit resin?
     
  10. What brand do you use for hu shou wu?
     
  11. Hehe this guy posting MoPai stuff on NoFap lol good one anyway

    I bought reishi pills before from hyperionherbs and they seem pretty good. My he show wu is on the way now :) Reishi pills I could feel helping my liver but not so much support for kidney! Liver could be stregnthened with a supplements powder as well.
     
  12. Anything you guys take to help the kidneys? I go to bathroom too easily... the schizandra berries seem to be very powerful but like reishi or vitamin C megadoses are a fire based nutrition. They don't seem to help the kidney, instead slightly increase fire circulation.
     
  13. "Deer Antler and Deer Placenta are the most powerful Jing tonics of them all. These two "herbs" are both Yin and Yang, and they restore Jing better and faster than anything else on Earth." Has anyone tried these? Sounds promising
     
  14. Dude, I just read on placenta yesterday and realized it’s kinda a thing. It’s crazy! I saw a picture lol and I said nope too far for me haha

    Garlic may be good for kidneys, supplements or herbs, I’m not too sure :/
     
  15. https://allayurveda.com/blog/10-best-cleansing-herbs-to-flush-and-detoxify-the-kidneys/

    And what’s with the fire stuff, I heard it but never understood, our body deals with the five elements or something but how do you know what to get? Google? Also, how do I know if I am yin or yang deficient?
     
  16. What’s mo pai o_O
     
  17. Anyone ever heard of astragalus?
     

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