Stop Smoking Cannabis?!

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by B1144, Apr 9, 2018.

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Ever use cbd oil to replace cannabis?

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  1. B1144

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    I was thinking about replacing cannabis with vaping cbd oil. I think I need to cut down on my consumption of weed cause I don't think that it's doing me any good to get high all the time. And of course when I overdo weed and sugar consumption, I tend to want to move to the pmo because of all the dopamine. Anyone else try cbd oil to quit weed? I did use an ecig to stop smoking cigarettes a couple years ago so I seem to have some confidence in vaping.
     
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  2. B1144

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    So I bought a cbd vape pen that I've been using when I usually smoke at night for the past three nights now and I feel pretty good. I'm actually looking foward to having a sober future!
     
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  3. El_Macho

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    Before realizing I was addicted to porn, I thought my problem was the weed. I stopped smoking/vaping weed, and did the NO PMO close to 3 months. The last 2 weeks, I started smoking again and find myself even more hornier lol. Just enjoy it!
     
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    Btw, I vape both THC/CBD oil. :) It’s all in moderation.
     
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    That's not a very nice thing to say.

    Also, do you even know the difference between THC and CBD? CBD doesn't even get you high at all. It has no psychological effects whatsoever.
     
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    I don't know if combating an addiction to marijuana is going to be as easy as switching to CBD. I think the harsh truth is that there's no easy way to quit marijuana. I was very addicted to marijuana for a long time, so I'm only speaking from experience there, and I understand that everyone has a different situation. Maybe CBD will work for you, but I don't think it works for me. If you're going to try using CBD, there are a couple things to be aware of:
    1) It's way more expensive than weed (especially if you're going to be using pure CBD).
    2) There are no psychological effects, unlike THC. If you're addicted to the psychological aspects of marijuana, then CBD isn't going to be a replacement.

    Honestly, if you think that THC is a problem for you, I'd recommend replacing it with other more productive activities rather than replacing it with another substance. It's not going to be easy, but I think it'll be worth the effort. Try not to think of it as a sacrifice or something you're giving up, but rather think about the positives of sobriety: a clearer head, sharper memory, and a more productive lifestyle. When you say it's not doing you any good to get high all the time, are you really giving anything up by quitting?
     
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  7. VeganRights

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    I used to smoke a lot of tobacco and weed, now i just make teas out of it :) (more potent also, so careful dosing)
     
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  8. SnakeAndApple

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    I guess everyone is different, but this is the perspective that I would want to hear on this because I did go through this and nobody told me:

    If you are trying to make your life better, then you should try to take away all the things that have power over you, and position yourself so that you are in control. With NoFap, for me it's going to be ultimately about finding healthy sexuality.

    With weed, you need to decide what you're using it for? What's your reason for getting high? Because ultimately, anything that's worth doing in life is worth sacrificing for: As in, you need to invest your time and energy into getting deeper so that in the future your life will be richer for it.

    And I'm not saying that weed can't be part of that, maybe you can have the most epic festival times and deepen romantic or friend relationships. But if you find yourself smoking weed for the sake of... getting high then you need to see what that is, you're just a slave to a pleasure seeking impulse. You need to imagine a future where you keep doing that for another 10 years. Who are you then? And then imagine all the other things that you could have done with your time instead of that.

    We're all worth more than that. I think I needed to get that off my chest.
     
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  9. B1144

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    Yea i do know the difference and the psychological effects is the part which I'm trying to get past.
     
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    This week my head has been more clear, better memory, and my dreams are more vivid as ever! I'm trying to read a little more often rather than smoking and getting tired quick.
     
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    My reason is definitely pleasure seaking plus to escape reality sometimes. I used to hang with all my friends that smoke all the time and it just propelled me in that lifestyle and I did feel connection because of it. But now that some things have changed and no longer seen them as much, I realize I need a better direction in life if I'm going to get what I want.
     
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    Thanks for the feed back everyone! And this is on 420 weekend when everyone that does smoke usually gets really high . It's probably my first 420 I've been sober since my teenage years!
     
  13. SnakeAndApple

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    Great work on going sober for the weekend dude!! Honestly inspirational.

    Take inspiration and new direction from what you can because what you're describing here, obviously this is the thing that we're all dealing with. To my mind, overcoming the impulse reaction to instant shallow pleasures is about finding deeper meaning. Anything meaningful will be worth sacrificing for, and sacrifice inherently, it hurts.

    Part of the challenge I'm facing up to is recognising that when I feel sad or down that this is okay, and that I don't need to instantly fix this with something pleasurable. Instead, getting through that moment is about having the goal and plan towards the meaningful thing that you're working for that can define your sacrifice as meaningful:

    Why did you choose not to smoke weed this weekend? What is the greater thing that you are working towards that smoking weed is inconsistent with?
     
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    I'd like to detox and get clean. I'm looking into moving out of my hometown and find a new career that might require a drug test. Instead of trying to fake it and pass, I'd like to be honest about it. It's my 33rd birthday tomorrow and I might as well start fresh in a new year of my life and live with integrity. To live a righteous life, you can't even lie to yourself ya know. I believe all of this pmo, weed and unhealthy food addiction hasn't gotten me anywhere. I decided this will change this year.
     
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    Hey thanks dude! Appreciate the kind words
     
  16. Inqonyama

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    Hi @B1144

    Good to hear you're working on your issues. I am Dutch myself, so fairly familiar with weed. I sadly can't relate to being addicted to it, I only smoke when I'm with friends, usually eating junk food and binge watching vines.

    Honestly, I have no clue what cbd oil is and how it affects you. However, one of the ways of getting 'rid' of an addiction is to replace it with another. That said, in the end you will still be left with an addiction! Therefore you ought to think about the benefits and drawbacks of both, and consider which ones you are willing to live with.

    Sounds like you are tackling a lot of things at once! That's great, just be careful that you don't fall into the 'new years resolution' trap. It might be best to only tackle bad habits one at a time, in order to make sure your willpower doesn't fail you. Start with the behaviour you find most derivative to your life, and move to the next one only once you only need a tiny bit of willpower to keep going. Then move on to the next!
     
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    I use to be a huge pothead and one thing about weed I find is it makes you comfortable with doing nothing and that goes hand in hand with pmo. I think smoking then going to bed is a huge trigger for some as weed does (atleast for me) make me more hornier. I don't think anything is wrong with it, I just think you should be careful as it has the same sort of progression of mental addiction as porn does in terms of dopamine. My suggestion is only smoke if you are hanging out with friends otherwise its just a waste of time.
     
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    Cbd is from the hemp plant that doesn't have the psychoactive ingredients like THC. I've been trying it and I do see a difference that I'm willing to live with.

    And yes, I realize that I am trying to change a lot about myself all at once during this month since starting no pmo and no weed for the last week. I know if I stay focused on something, keep coming back here, reading, hiking, and watching some inspirational videos, I'll stay on my course to success.
     
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  19. Inqonyama

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    Thank you for explaining! And if you feel like it works for you, then it does. You're the best authority on your own life after all.

    Sounds good in that case! You're definitely ambitious and that's very commendable.

    Hi @Boeing747 ,

    While I understand your criticism is serious and comes from a good place, perhaps it might be better to make it a bit more constructive. People on here understand they have addictions and need to tackle them in a serious way. While it is often tempting to tell people they are wrong and should do things in a different way, this is often not very helpful. Everyone has a different path through addiction recovery and self improvement, and most also have different standards of what they consider harmful to themselves. It is important to understand someone's process, and the things they are trying to figure out for themselves, before trying to correct them. Most life lessions can only be learned first hand, after all.

    Don't be discouraged to keep commenting and trying to help people though! Everyone here also understand you are seious about wanting to help.
     
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  20. Inqonyama

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    Hi @Boeing747

    Usually I don't get involved in arguments on the internet. However, this is a discussion forum where people come to confide serious problems they have in order to help them overcome these issues. Therefore, I think it is important that somewhat ignorant people like you should be corrected before they make someone here feel like they are unsafe. So let's get to it.

    I do not believe I misinterpreted much of what you said. I assume the 'playful banter' that you refer to were the following comments:

    Your first comment is one in which you straight up laugh at someone who has a serious concern for which he seeks serious advice. You don't just keep it at that, you follow this by explaining to someone who is on a forum for people with pornography addiction... that he has an addiction.
    When you get corrected by someone, who explains to you:

    You do not dignify or apologise for the initial, innapropriate behaviour which is called out, showing you are trying to sweep that under the rug. In stead, you follow up by commenting:

    By doing so you show that you seem to have very limited knowledge on the subject. You do not know what CBD is, yet you insist that it causes brain damage, psychological addiction and independency. You even go on contradicting yourself. First you claim:

    Which you then follow up by stating:

    This of course goes without saying, but cannabis is weed. This means that cannot be addicted to cannabis, yet also have symptoms of 'weed abscence'.

    Now your second comment is equally ignorant and hurtful. If you call someone a pussy, then follow up by laughing and saying you are kidding, why make the 'joke' at all? This is a place where people come to open up about problems they have. This means people here make themselves vulnerable. Things that you consider 'playful banter' can actually be quite upsetting to people. Especially people with pornography addictions, who can have low self esteem.

    Now we get to my comment, in which I state:

    This comment was actually meant to refer to some of the criticism you gave before, namely:

    While to you this might come across as good advice, it is also a pretty condescending, negative remark. You loudly exclaim that whatever someone doing is wrong, and they only right way to go about things is the way you feel people should go about it.

    You respond to this by simply stating that I misinterpreted what you said, again trying to sweep valid criticism under the rug.

    So, how does all of this tally up? All in all, you have given exactly two solid pieces of advice:
    - Replacing one addiction with another means you are still addicted. (Which anyone on a forum about addictions understands.)
    - It is the abscence of weed that causes a clearer head, not the consumption of CBD. (Which OP likely already has guessed.)

    These two pieces of advice came at a high price:
    - You laugh at people who come here for serious advice about problems they are facing.
    - You joke at the expense of people who are vulnerable and come here to seek help.
    - You clearly do not know what you are talking about, yet you insist you have a valid answer.
    - You repeatedly and forcefully tell people that what they are doing is wrong.
    - You deny any responsibility and when corrected on your behaviour, you sweep this under the rug.

    Comments such as yours, in a place like this, do more harm then good. The advice you give is simply pointing out the obvious while at the same time showcasing behaviour which is childlike at best.
    While I hope you take this admittedly but deservedly harsh criticism to heart, I fear you will ignore it just as much as the previous criticism you have had. However, not just you but also others who read this might learn from it, therefore I feel it is still valuable to say.
     
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