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Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Kav, Jun 28, 2017.

  1. Kav

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    i have cleared my mental clutter. I know what I need to do. Achieve just one day.

    My long term goal.

    People have a view of me being really well organised and have a good attitude to work and people.

    At times I am at that person but when I use p I am a very deconstructive person with a moral compass spinnning continuously.

    In my personal life I want to be someone capable of having a social group and personal relationships. I want to be socially active and able to work through my problems.

    I need to set out my OST.

    Objective strategy and tactics. Give me a moment I'll be back
     
  2. SuperFan

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    Just one day is all you should focus on. And then tomorrow, just focus on that day. And on day 235, just focus on that day.

    I've heard addicts say, "I've been sober for ### days ... but today is the only one that matters."

    There's a world of truth in that statement.
     
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  3. Kav

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    There lies the paradox of the recovery of an addict that I couldn't quite put my finger on.

    On one side you need to focus on your life the big picture. To not let your addiction be your only focus in life. That way you are free on it.

    On the other side. Never get complacent. The dragon is just sleeping when you are doing well. You must keep an eye on the dragon everyday.

    I've always hated the fact I was never truly free even on a 6 month streak. Now I know why.

    I hate that dragon but equally the dragons fire is in me. Which I have used to good affect at times in my life.

    Don't worry this is not delusions of grandeur. Thinking in visual and in stories help me process the themes I'm dealing with.
     
  4. SuperFan

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    It doesn't have to feel like a paradox. It isn't an 'either/or' kind of thing.

    The goal is long term sobriety. That's a perfect and reasonable goal to have. But the best way to reach that goal is to focus on one day at a time.

    Sometimes the best way to reach our goals is indirectly. For instance, as I've mentioned in another thread--say your goal is to get a wonderful girlfriend. Instead of focusing on the relationship as your goal, focus on improving yourself to become the kind of man who attracts wonderful women. In that respect, you're more likely to achieve your goal when you focus on the journey instead of the reward.

    If your goal is to make a lot of money, you can't focus on that as your goal. You need to focus on building whatever marketable skillset or talent is going to bring you that money.

    It's a bit like when you're trying to look at something in the dark. Sometimes it's hard to see things in the dark if we stare straight at them. You almost have to look away, and suddenly your peripheral vision can see it more clearly.
     
  5. w95chris

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    You know it is very easy to say after you just relapsed that you're gonna make it this time and you will become a victor.But the truth is that if you really meant that then you wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.Don't get me wrong,failing is OK when you learn from your mistakes and then moving on but if you keep failing then something is not right here.Think of yourself like the phoenix.You need to die in order to rise from the ashes.Just study your strategies more and think of a battle plan in order to win this addiction.Understand the reason you failed and become stronger by this knowledge because you have seen your weaknesses and now you can make this weakness a strong point so do it.Now is the right time to do it not the next time you fail
     
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  6. Kav

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    Thanks. I different realised I've not been focusing on my strategies and daily tactics enough
     
  7. Heyo12345

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    Relapsed (i convinced myself it was better that way ... yes i am that stupid) today so lets do this buddy 1 step at a time
     
  8. Kav

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    Their is a lot of nuisance in achieving our goals.

    In NLP their is something called away and toward thinking I believe.

    Away goals are seen as negative as they focus on the problem E.g.

    The long term goal is soberity. That's basically a nice way of saying my goal is not to look at porn.

    Personally that doesn't sit with me well. It does seem like reasonable and a logical goal but when deconstructed it's actually negative. It always focuses you on your weakness. Not your strength or what you truly want.

    However, I now will contradict myself and therefore create a paradox of thought. But I agree with you I believe the goal should still be used.

    This is in addiction. If we don't remind ourselves of our weakness then we are open to complatcency.


    You have also demonstrated the paradox or contradiction in your metaphor of being in the dark. Do not look towards the goal but away from it and it shall appear in your peripheral vision.

    That to me is a paradoxical statement.

    It would be great to hear your views. This has really engaged me this morning in a great way.
     
  9. Kav

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    Okay well. Get focused on 24 hours. Drop me a message if you made it. If you didn't let me know what happend.
     
  10. Kav

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    So I've made one day. But the next 24hours are important.

    I have been productive today. I work around feeling ashamed of myself but that is understandable. As the days pass I will become desensitised.

    My long term goal is to have my own place outright and me going out and being social.

    My strategy to do this are

    Using nofap forum helping others.

    Do breathing exercises to centre myself.

    Do my life admin stuff. Exercise, brushing teeth, cleaning and organising, paperwork, eating well

    Educate myself through books.

    Accept my strength is my weakness and vice Versa.

    Take a chance.
     
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