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So what am I doing?

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by Happy thoughts, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. Happy thoughts

    Happy thoughts Fapstronaut

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    I feel like I have a very odd... way of life?
    For example, if it is the middle of the day I am cheery and outgoing, but, I still can't talk to girls, save for like 1 girl. Anyways, then at the end of the day I ABSOLUTELY CRASH I remember everything I have done that was cringy and awkward and embarrassing and I just beat myself up every night. I cant even go to a football game at like 7 to 9 pm without literally sitting away alone and just avoiding everyone I can. And you can forget about new people, I haven't made a new friend in the last 2 years and even then I have only 3 people I know that i can call a friend. I'm just timid and a kid from middle school bullied the duck out of me and he is very popular so my reputation isn't very great. I feel lIke I have been place in a field and told to get home with no directions or any indication of where I am, like I'm just blundering around making mistake after mistake and ruining myself along the way.
     
  2. High School doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. "Popularity" doesn't mean shit if you're an asshole. Focus on you and your dreams and aspirations.
     
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  3. I Am that I Am

    I Am that I Am Fapstronaut

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    Dude you're so young it's hard to reply. Just know you are worthy.
     
  4. Happy thoughts

    Happy thoughts Fapstronaut

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    Alright also my friend really wants me to go to a councilor because of my talk about suicide in the past and I just don't think I should go because I don't want any drama or trouble to be stirred up any thoughts?
     
  5. pira3

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    If you had suicidal thoughts, that's not a drama. This kind of feeling is something to be openly discussed, specially if you have someone prepared for that (the councilor in this case).

    And plus: If your friend said that to you, he/she is a real friend, who cares for you. This is a great think nowadays. And the number of real real friends must be really small. From people who know my life and I know I can count on, maybe 1 or 2. For me it's great.
     
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  6. Happy thoughts

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    I really feel like shit. I have felt like shit for a while now and I don't know what to do. I mean all these thoughts aren't going anywhere. They will always be with me, "no don't go there, they don't want you there." ,"no don't talk to him/her they don't like you" I mean what do I do?
    I don't get how life is going to get better. What is the point? I'm surviving, not living. I get home from school, watch YT and hopefully not P anymore and then go to bed. I'm terrified of doing anything and I will do anything in my power to get out of any form of social interaction. I mean once I get out of high school it will only get worse. It's not getting any better. I feel like I have been on a constant decline and nothing seems fun anymore. I have no desire to do anything. I need some guidance here, can it get better and how can it get better? I have never had a relationship before and I don't want to live long enough to see myself become even more pathetic. I want things to get better, but I don't think they can. The more I become aware, the more I realize just how detached I am from everyone else and how worthless I am. If I was gone it would maybe impact people for 2 weeks tops, except for a few family members but other than that no one would care. I was bullied in school for a whole year and no one stood up, or helped me. No one cares.
     
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  7. pira3

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    Happy thoughts, In my path across school and highschool I aways had this struggles that you have. It get a very critical status around my 18~20 years old, when I basically just work-home-home-work like a zombie and lost any sight of life.
    When I got to college, I decided to fight against this so I got to a doctor and started therapy. This had pros and cons in my life. What I can say to you is: I'm still have struggles. Fight against is not garantee of hapiness, but is garantee of some XP and drops of confidence, even if isn't THAT confidence. Is exausting, it is, and I've learn more about me. Introspection is a kind of personality, and this makes part of me. The challenge here is understanding where is part you, and where is s social disease. Here, some special guidance could help you: the councilor, a therapist and mainly, your parents.

    I'm still have problems, PMO relapses, feel like shit, that's why i'm here. I think life is an eternal journey fighting and trying stuff, getting tired and resting. We tend to have an illusion that the other's life are better, more fun. Sometimes is, but the ugly and bad part is kind of invisible to us. Comparing is a huge problem that I suffer everyday, but we need to fight against it because is illusional.

    Hope it gives you some light. When facing this difficulties, we need to learn how to create hope to not give up, and how to destroy expectations to not suffer.
     
  8. Happy thoughts

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    Thank you Pira for your insight. It has helped me a bit but I just think that life isn't worth living if you spend it trying to fight against struggle after struggle.
    I read these other forums and it just shows me just how bad life really is and it's quite scary. Life so far has been a very long struggle, like trying to walk through deep mud and your feet keep getting stuck, what's the point? What is the point of doing anything if in the end everyone dies. I myself am not a religious person, which only makes it worse. To me, there is an absolute end, where you are nothing and will forever be nothing after death. To me life is like being tied to a rope that is slowly lowering you to your death. What's the point of suffering if you can just cut the rope and skip the horrible parts?
     
  9. Happy thoughts

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    Anyways I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am... I'll see how this council in goes but I doubt it will help at all... I don't even want to be helped. I don't want rose tinted glasses to be placed over my eyes. I want to see clearly. And if I am, then fuck life is not worth living.
     
  10. pira3

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    I feel I should say positive things to you, but I need to be fair and realistic to you and myself.

    Well, I think just like you. I don't believe in god or anything like that, indeed everyone dies at the end, all that's build will fall apart and this is an ethernal fight. That's perfect true for me.
    What make me get up the bed are some goals I found interesting to try and found out. Like create my art, visit some places in the world, play some nice games and at this moment of my life, interact with my low-count friends. Life is so unpredictable sometimes that, even from this sea of shit, curious things can (or not) come to surface. I like RNG games, and life is kind of one.

    The thing is, sometimes, while we try to reach something, other things pop out in this road, and other things fall apart. The RNG factor I said. But the more we try, upgrade our social intelligence and maturity, this RNG factor tends to be a little bit under our control. You are young (I'm too, but you're more than me) and life looks like a wild beast out of control. This is normal.

    But indeed, times to times I feel helpless, desmotivated. Even today, some hours ago, I got my bike, run far away from my home and sit down in the street, thinking about my PMO problems, virginity, future, sharing problems with who and how, for hours until became night. Tomorrow I can maybe wake up a little better, make my swimming class, liberate some dopamine, get a little bit better... etc etc. For me, life hasn't a big purpose and human beings are not the center of universe. When we believe in this lies and all fall apart, we feel lost and despaired. Not for me anymore. When I started to think about life this way, I feel a little better in this think of "life has to be good, if isn't, whats the meaning of this crap".

    I don't know if I'm killing the rest of energy you have. I hope not, the correct reading of this should bring to you the opposite. Talk and expose more of this, don't hold this in your heart. We always can keep sharing thoughts about.
     
  11. pira3

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    Searching help is something that demands energy and time too. I tried some ways, all of them has it's pros and cons. But each of them give me interesting discoveries and histories to share, even the worst ones.
    The point here is, with the "searching help" for example: try... observe what is happening... process the stuff is happening like a scientific experiment. Collect data and get some conclusions just like an exploration. "I've done that because of that.. than this happens; I've feel that this day... why?". I did this all my treatments in psiquiatrics, therapists, and when you get 21 years old, with alcohol, pot, etc.

    After you've gone at the council, come back and tell us how is it going, share you process and discoveries.
     
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  12. PedroCalrissian

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    Having a positive outlook and attitude changes everything. Focusing on all the negatives about yourself destroys your confidence and drains you mentally & physically. High school doesn't really matter, but there's no other time in life quite like it. So try to enjoy it.

    Hope it gets better for ya
     
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  13. Happy thoughts

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    Well I chickened out of my coucelor meeting, relapsed today... don't really know what to do anymore
     
  14. Happy thoughts

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    Yeah I'm not really seeing a light at the end of the tunnel here I have relapsed twice now and I'm just running out of energy
    I don't really know what to do anymore...
     
  15. pira3

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    Hi again Happy Thoughts. Tell us, why you didn't go to the coucelor. Something happen?
    Is PMO your unique way of pleasing yourself?
     
  16. Happy thoughts

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    I didn't go to the councilor because I said I was feeling sick, but really I don't know what came over me... I was uncomfortable, even afraid of what might happen in there with the councilor. And I just kept having urges with PMO that I couldn't get away from.
     
  17. CowardlyLion

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    Ok buddy, listen to me here. What you describe is a textbook case of Anxiety and Depression, which go hand in hand with each other (also known as something called co-morbidity) are a very discouraging combination. I know this not only from experience, but also from my Bachelors in Psychology. I can also tell you that the person you are at 18 is COMPLETELY different from the person you are going to be at 20. And that person is only going to grow to a point where you are a COMPLETELY different person by 25. Life will only get better. You need to talk to someone. Let them know exactly how you feel. For me, I started with some medication that gave me a little bit of a push, kinda like training wheels. But after working through it, the wheels came off and I was flying through life. You can NOT give up. People will care if you are gone. I know I'll care if you are gone. My experience after high school was that college is a completely different environment. If you are planning to go, think of it as place with educated and understanding people (as long as you don't pick a party school). You will make friends that will last a lifetime. I had a nice group of friends in high school that I hardly talk to anymore, but the friends you make in college are the friends that will last your entire life.

    You can do this. But the first step is getting help. Just get help. Just like any problem, just like any addiction. You need to seek help. Your entire life will turn around, I PROMISE you. As long as you try, it will be amazing. Tell your parents. Tell a counselor. Someone who can help. It gets better.
     
  18. CowardlyLion

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    Nothing bad is going to happen. This will not hurt you in the long run. Talking to them will only help. They aren't going to lock you up. They aren't going to let your situation known (that's actually illegal). They will only help.
     
  19. Happy thoughts

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    Thank you very much for your advice Mr. Lion, it did make me feel much better. The one thing is that I have made very poor choices in "friends" in the past and it has really created much personal toil. It hasn't gotten better for the past couple years and I'm worried that I'm missing out on experience I should be learning now, in high school that I won't get because of my social anxiety. And then without this experience I will miss out on college experience and so on like a snowball effect. It's hard to find any joy in life if you don't have anyone to share it with. All my songs are now in college so I don't have anyone to hang out and talk to when I'm at home. And I'm finding it hard to trust people and make new friends after my previous experience. I feel like I'm slowly slipping away from society and not living up to its standards
     
  20. pira3

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    This changing process is so true. My biggest change come in my college, when I started my treatment against social phobia and depression. Each year I was a complete different person, and I just noticed that some years later. It's a gradual and natural process, like anything else in life, including recovering from PMO dependency.

    Try the councilor meeting again. Sharing here is comfortable because we are all anonymous. My first therapy meeting was so difficult, I could barely speak, but I persisted and had many other sessions for one year. Think that way: if you cross this first line on the councilor, you gonna have more chances of doing more things that you couldn't before, and you gonna be closer to other lines ahead.

    If I could give some of my energy to you in this meeting, I would. The best I can do from here is cheer for you and wait for your feedback about the meeting.

    Hope we meet again here soon.
     

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