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So here I am

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by Shockedbuddy, Jul 3, 2017.

  1. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    These three comments are incredibly telling.
    • You don't feel secure about your body in this relationship, despite being a beautiful woman
    • You can't bring up your feelings or ask questions without him getting defensive
    • You cannot have open conversation
    This is only my opinion, but I think you have to create some serious consequences if you want to see any progress out of him. You cannot have a meaningful relationship like this. If I were your therapist, I'd suggest a trial separation. He should find a new place to live for a 2-3 months so he can see what it feels like to be without you. If he won't leave, you should.

    It will feel scary as hell, but sometimes that's the kind of drastic measure that's required for an addict to finally wake the f*** up and realize what his behavior is costing him.

    I hate to admit this ... but whenever my ex-wife caught me in my behaviors, we'd have a big emotional exchange, and I'd swear to work harder at my recovery. But as long as she decided to stay in the marriage, a small part of me would go, "phew! Dodged that bullet! See? You can still get away with this stuff." I didn't think that consciously, of course, but that's what my inner addict believed.

    Recovery in this program only happens when the addict is ready to make recovery his #1 priority. He has to put it ahead of work, ahead of family, and even ahead of you. My SAA sponsor once said, "anything you prioritize ahead of your recovery, you stand to lose to your addiction." He has to be willing to do whatever it takes to beat this. Anything less will lead to perpetual relapses, and you'll be here in these forums five years from now, talking about the same issues.

    Your feelings are neither right or wrong--so don't judge them. Your feelings just are. You are not the problem.

    You are certainly within your right to ask him not to go to the beach. However, I'm not sure how productive it will be. He's likely to rebel if you try and create those kinds of boundaries on his behavior. What I would suggest is to make them your boundaries. Explain why you feel uncomfortable with him going to the beach. If he's unwilling to show empathy for your feelings and deny himself time at the beach in order to give you some peace, then maybe that should trigger some consequences that you can use to take care of you. I'm not sure what those consequences could be, but I'm sure the awesome women in this thread can help you think of some.

    ^^^ 100%.
     
  2. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

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  3. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    @Shockedbuddy You said your husband is here on NoFap and that you know his User ID. But does he know your User ID?

    I don't like the idea that he could be lurking around here and seeing all the feedback you're getting. It would give him the opportunity to plan a way to manipulate things.
     
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  4. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    @Jolie back at ya ... you're like a female Yoda in these forums. Your investment in the women of this community is just huge.
     
  5. Shockedbuddy

    Shockedbuddy Fapstronaut

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    No
     
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  6. Kenzi

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    That's hilarious @SuperFan...
    My journal is "A New Hope"
    For I am a HUGE Star Wars fan.
    LOL
    And, thank you
     
  7. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    @Shockedbuddy
    Don't let him know your user name.
    I agree completely that he could be using it as domestic warfare
     
  8. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    I pay attention to these things, you know. :) But if you ever mention Episodes 1-3, we can't be friends anymore.
     
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  9. Kenzi

    Kenzi Fapstronaut

    No, no we can't. @SuperFan
    At least we agree. :)
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2017
  10. Shockedbuddy

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    Oh I was reading and was trying to understand what is wrong with this beach. It was never before in my lifetime such a big deal for me.
    And that's what I found out: betrayal trauma triggers: "your external environment triggers might include: catching him scouting out other women or men, recognizing that trance look in his eyes, racy magazine covers staring at you in the grocery store line, hearing songs about love or cheating, television shows depicting love or sex, photo albums of the life you thought you had, travel (either your own or his), going to the beach and being surrounded by bikini clad bodies, the computer screen, or the sight of your own body".

    Seems like I have a lot to learn.
     
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  11. Kenzi

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    This is our new normal: we have been discussing it already couple of times.
    I've been trying to fix things this way, but we haven't been able to do so: he is in a foreign land while I'm at home in my beautiful city by the sea. If we are separated he has literally no reason to stay here. So always this was the "stop" factor and somehow became a drama, like now or never, together or divorce. You know, like black and white without any grey gradient.
     
  14. Shockedbuddy

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    I tried this way, to explain why I feel uncomfortable.
    Maybe it's language barrier. English is not my native language, it's a 4th in a row which I learned as a foreign one, not even the first. So sometimes I have not enough words to meaningfully say what I want to say. My biggest English vocabulary dedicated to marketing and internet marketing, not a feelings stuff :)
    So maybe because of that I have problems to explain myself.
    Also in a heat of the moment I can not properly understand what he was really saying, ask to repeat - he gets annoyed and so on.
    My husband do not know any of my native languages - I'm belingua, - so I'm stuck in that situation where probably my language knowledge is a problem too.
     
  15. Shockedbuddy

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    That's exactly what has happened: "I don't care what you think, I'm going to swim and you are not going to manipulate me".

    Also he said that he probably needs to get more friends, "I should be going out more, I stuck here like in a cage".

    Maybe our problems is far more than just porn/images.

    Because if someone is saying he is in a cage he literally saying he need freedom. And don't really care how things in Union would go.
     
  16. Shockedbuddy

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    I've read a lot last days, I think there is a lot of inner work is going on inside.
    Other people's experience - I've read a lot from @Jolie, @AnonymousAnnaXOXO, @TooMuchTooSoon and other girls. Also journey and journals of the guys who incredibly changed their life and their marriage.

    And here it is: I know now a lot, I've studied a lot. But it's me who is doing that, not my SO. And that's not me who has an addiction, not me who's not addressing that.

    So I feel meh
     
  17. Shockedbuddy

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    Well everything started to get a bit better yesterday night somehow.
    We even being intimate.

    Something were budding me and I've opened his phone today. Not a nice move, I know.
    In the pics I saw the image of the younger women with... Not important, just saw it. You know sometimes you delete pics but the still can be seen when you choose Which app to open. So even it was already deleted I saw it. Meh. Nice girl, juicy I would say. My hands started to tremble. What an incredible insecure woman I am. I've got a feeling that again everything around is a lie, he don't love me at all.

    I could not keep it inside and confessed what I did and what I saw to my husband.

    He said not a big deal, I felt like it and you are the bitch to invade my privacy.
    We are done, - he said.

    It's really painful that I'm less than pixels.
    And he can srow me out of life like that, like garbage.

    He left for another country for 1-2-3 days.
    And said before leaving that we are done and wanking feels better, he do not care.

    Well, usually I'll cry, or reflect a bit and hope things would cool down.

    This time I think that I'll pack my things and move to parents.
    I'm afraid to do it, because it's the end. It's a full stop.

    I'm so lost.

    I lost my marriage due to what?
    Me being a bitch?
     
  18. Star Lord

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    No...he has thrown away your marriage because he is a closed minded selfish man.
    He clearly doesn't care.
    It's not your fault.
     
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  19. Star Lord

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    He's a hypocrite to call you a bitch for invading his privacy...yet he is still going behind your back to toss off to some porn girls.
     
  20. Shockedbuddy

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    Actually I do not know what to think at all
     

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