Smaller penis is this pied?

Masturbating to the porn or masturbating in general?

 

I think either way masturbation.
If you masturbate with porn or without obviously with porn there is more of a mental effect to it.
I have experienced something similar for short durations and I kind of look at it as you ''tiring your penis'' or making it tired of masturbation so it shrinks.

 

I keep hearing that porn is worse and that masturbation to mental imagery is fine.

Either way, I was doing it waaaaay too much. I lost count of the times I would do it daily. And here all along, I thought that masturbation was healthy in moderation.

This flatline (if I'm in one) sucks ass. No libido, no morning wood, no spontaneous erections, I can't get aroused, and very small penis size. I just hope as long as I abstain from arousal in other forms, this eventually goes away. I just hope it's not that stupid venous leak.

 

I do not have the small penis size or shrinkage issue but I feel like I'm experiencing the no morning wood and not really spontaneous erections. I had couple times issues with arousal but I guess it was tied to being nervous too. So I guess I'm experiencing the flatline myself.
Only way is to stay away from porn and not masturbate to see what happens.

Although I do not remember having morning woods that often before I quit porn and so on.

I used to fap a lot in my teens like daily and sometimes for more than hour. Now my masturbation is minimal and at this exact moment none since on NoFap.

I think your best bet is to just continue about NoFap and throw away the venous leak idea out of your head since you can just mess your head by thinking those things.

 

Right. I'm going to try and do that. It's very hard because I have psychiatric issues myself so I'm vulnerable to anxiety.

The good news is that the venous leak wikipedia page doesn't seem credible and my PCP never even heard of the condition:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venous_leak

"This article needs more medical references for verification or relies too heavily on primary sources. Please review the contents of the article and add the appropriate references if you can. Unsourced or poorly sourced material may be challenged and removed."

I don't know what that means, but it gives me the impression that this condition isn't really credible or it's very rare at the very least.

 

Yeah I do not know about those venous leak symptoms many can be tied to bad masturbation habits or not getting properly aroused due to porn.

I think the issues are more likely tied to masturbation than porn than actual condition like venous leak. Again only way is to do NoFap and stay away from porn.

Just focuse on that and throw that idea of your head if your able to do NoFap for very long time and do not see improvements then it might be something else.

 

Right. I think the fact that I can't get physically aroused and that I was hypersexual and masturbated to porn quite frequently prior to the e.d. is a sign that this is a porn-induced e.d.

Minimal worries such as orgasming into a flatline (I haven't read reports of that happening) and my penis not being cold worries me. Because my penis feels warm. Other than that, I match all symptoms of a flatline.

 

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I think your hand has been kind of used to giving yourself erections or you achieved them via your hand. So obviously normal arousal might be hard with the addition of being sort of numbed or seen plenty arousing porn so the real thing obviously will feel different.

I think anyone who has jerked off too much and aided it with too frequent porn usage might experience some of those symptoms. Especially the one related to loosing erection after stopping masturbation. Since you have conditioned yourself maybe for months or years to keep your dick hard via arousing material and constant fapping.

 

I was continuing to masturbate even after I got the e.d. and struggled with stopping. Now that I'm stopping, I'm 13 days clean and plan to keep it that way. This is hard, but the only thing I need to do. I need to embrace this flatline because it's going to only help me with being asexual. At this point, I think it's the dopamine in my brain that's giving me cravings to use porn or look at good looking people.

 

Can by abstaining, you heal up and the length of the penis returns fully?

 

I would say that by abstaining that it almost guaranteed that your penis will get longer, thicker and more healthy. It will be more sensitive in all the right ways. Length is something that is perhaps unpredictable. Weird how gravity makes women's breasts longer and lower to the ground, but not so sure that it offers such a gift to men. Abstaining will be your penis's best friend in practically every possible way regarding to health.

 

I lost penile sensitivity after I hit my flatline after a TMS orgasm. Scared the shit out of me and made me panic. I hope it all comes back eventually. I lost libido as well.

 

I hope it does. I know in my case that even after a few days of not masturbating that my penis noticeably increased sensitivity. Also, I reached down and touched it (in an innocent way) a few days after stopping masturbating and immediately took my hand off because it didn't feel like MY PENIS! I was like whoa!!! It felt younger.

 

You should be glad. My penis was ice cold and it took some time to have it warm again.
Venous leak is unlikely, hardly anyone has it. I know only a handful of guys who had it and they usually practiced prone masturbation (laying with their whole bodyweight on their penises) and some felt the injury the day they got it. After they bruised themselves either their whole penis or the tip was completely deflated. I believe they all got surgery.

 

That's how I got my current erectile dysfunction. I did a prone masturbation session orgasm while looking at porn on my smartphone and I got E.D. a few days later. I didn't feel an injury at the time though. Hoping that this is still PIED...I'm so worried.

 

What do you mean that the penis was deflated? Like shrunken? My loss of erections was gradual within 2-3 days after the TMS prone masturbation session. I was hypersexual and looking at porn prior to my e.d. I hope that's the culprit. My penis doesn't have a bruise.

Fuck, now I'm worried.

 

Not sure but a urologist can test you. Never masturbate prone again.
Deflated like after the injury it quickly got limb and never got erect again. So not a gradual process but an immediate change, from what I have read. Keep in mind I don't have leakage and have read only a couple of stories.

Then you don't have venous leakage. Venous leakage means no matter how aroused you are and how much you stimulate your penis, it will not get erect (or will not stay erect for long), it's impossible.
You lost your libido, too. You have PIED.
PIED is usually a gradual process but a reboot has many ups and downs, so I can imagine you had PIED before but never flatlined until now. Nothing out of the ordinary here.
Good luck

 

I can get semi-hard situationally like standing or sitting, but the erections aren't as full obviously. They also don't last as long. But yeah, sexting or looking at photos on dating apps definitely get my penis semi-erect. I am guessing that this is still a PIED symptom? Hope so! And thanks.

 

Possibly. There are rebooters who cannot get hard to anything anymore unless they reboot. Have you tried the search function to find venous leak stories?

Anyway, this is a long journey. Allow yourself to stop thinking about sex or your erections or anything for quite some time. Maybe do a 90 days challenge and then reevaluate.

 

The search function doesn't work for me for some reason, so I can't see any venous leak stories here. Do you know how it works? I'm having trouble with it.

EDIT: Nevermind. It worked. I and few very people seem to be the only ones talking about venous leak. Is it that rare? Perhaps there's some hope...