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sexual intercourse without ejaculation

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by Sakhi, Feb 17, 2017.

  1. Sakhi

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    Who knows about this and why people have sex but not ejaculate? If we do that isnt it harmful? ??
     
  2. Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy
    Sep 1, 1984
    by Mantak Chia and Michael Winn

    I personally hate discussing topics like this on this forum. So that's my book recommendation to you. Also search YouTube for videos by that author, Mantak Chia.
     
  3. ILoathePorn

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    I don't believe it is harmful. I practice this with my wife. The reason I like practicing this is due to when I just let everything go, it sometimes brings about brain fog. Also, I am not sure what it is, but I feel different, as if there was some sort of loss. Another reason I like to do this is that the pleasure lasts longer and it seems as though it spreads throughout your body rather than just in the one place. This is just from my experience. Hope this helps. Stay strong!
     
  4. PostiveChange1974

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    Are you asking if 'not ejaculating' is harmful?

    The immediate answer is no.

    Men don't 'have to ejaculate'. Barring some very rare medical conditions, your testicles will not swell like a balloon over time, if you don't have release. Your body is constantly creating and destroying sperm. It can clean up after itself without you having to.

    If you mean the condition of 'blue balls', or vasocongestion, this is usually just a temporary condition, where blood rushes into the area, and once held there a long time without release, can cause soreness. It does pass on it's own, and some massage to the area can relieve pain. (Those that practice sex without orgasm learn techniques to change their expectation, and learn to relax to where the body doesn't have this response).

    If you are asking what benefits there are in sex without intercourse. Many find it more emotionally connecting in long term relationships. Others have found that its better for their own emotional stability. Some find that sex without the goal of orgasm is just more relaxing, and fitting to their situations. (I'm not spiritual, but there are many that believe these emotions are representations of their spirits needs, so if you are spiritual you might look into it further)
     
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  5. ILoathePwife

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    On the second one, it think you meant sex without orgasm.

    But there's another one missing. Sex with orgasm but no ejaculation, no cum.

    I'm not sure but I think the OP is asking why people have sex and do orgasm but don't ejaculate. That's what my husband answered.

    As to whether it's harmful, I am on my phone so will post a few links from my laptop.
     
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  6. ILoathePwife

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    Not according to my research. From what I have read "dry orgasms" can be a concern when they happen to someone due to a medical condition but even then the medical condition is more the concern rather than the fact that the fluid is not coming out as with a "regular" or orgasm with ejaculation. See: http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/conditions/sexual-health/a2268/dry-orgasms/
    Quoting from that article, written by Dr David Delvin is a member of the College of Sexual and Relationship Therapists, the European Society of Contraception and the International Society For Sexual Medicine.
    "Retrograde ejaculation

    "A totally different form of dry orgasm occurs in middle-aged or older men – who have had prostate surgery, radiotherapy or other treatment to the prostatic area.

    "In these circumstances, it's often the case that your treatment will disrupt the 'male plumbing' around the point where the semen enters the urethra.

    "Retrograde ejaculation occurs when semen, which would normally be ejaculated via the urethra (the urinary pipe), is redirected to the urinary bladder.

    "So you get a dry orgasm. And next time that you pee, your urine will be cloudy. This appearance is nothing to be worried about."

    Later in the article he very skeptically talks about people that do O without E as my husband sometimes does.

    "Tantric sex
    "I have talked with devotees of tantric sex, who claim that they can control their bodies so effectively that orgasm can take place without actual ejaculation of fluid. They say that sometimes a man can have many of these orgasms, one after the other, before he eventually decides to ejaculate.

    "Critics of tantric sex theory would argue that these men are not really having orgasms at all.

    "Dry orgasms for fun
    "In 2015, there was several rather 'laddish' sites on the web which claim how to teach young men how to STOP ejaculation at the last minute - so that you orgasm without actually ejaculating.

    "What's the point of that? Well, two claims are being made:

    • That the sensation is more intense
    • That the practice enables you to have multiple climaxes.
    "The idea usually seems to be that you train yourself to use your pelvic muscles in such a way as to produce orgasm without ejaculation. And you have to stop all stimulation immediately before you 'come'. Frankly, at the moment we are rather unconvinced. But at least the practice does seem to be harmless."

    As far as him being unconvinced, eh, whatever. My husband and I are used to that. What we are pursing: the reboot itself, karezza, O without E, all these things are things that many are unconvinced have value. For the most part, these unbelievers haven't bothered to try those things and therefore have no idea what they are talking about, so their loss, our gain.

    Another link I found came from Dr. Justin J. Lehmiller, who received his Ph.D. in Social Psychology from Purdue University and is a so called sexpert quoted in the media, according to his bio.

    http://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2014/...for-guys-to-prevent-ejaculation-during-orgasm
    Quoting from that article:
    "As for the practice you described of intentionally preventing ejaculation during an orgasm, this is sometimes referred to as "injaculation" or the "Hughes' technique" on internet forums and message boards. Many of these forums claim that this behavior is a risk factor for developing retrograde ejaculation. In case you’re not familiar, retrograde ejaculation occurs when the sphincter that sits between the prostate and bladder does not close tightly enough during ejaculation. This causes semen to be expelled into the bladder instead of outside the body. While this isn’t necessarily harmful (the semen will simply exit the body the next time he urinates), it does render a man infertile.

    "However, I can't find a single scientific source to back up the idea that “injaculation” causes this or any other problem. If any such research exists, it must be hiding well because I have searched pretty thoroughly.

    "Also, I don’t have any good reason to suspect that injacultion is inherently dangerous. In fact, preventing ejaculation by holding the base of the penis is actually a technique that sex therapists commonly recommended to guys with premature ejaculation who are learning to last longer in bed. This is known as the squeeze technique ..."

    Side note, my husband doesn't use the squeeze technique. He uses his pelvic muscles.

    So, my answer is, no, I don't believe it's harmful. In fact, it allows my husband to experience a lot more pleasure than he did previously and it helps him avoid brain fog, which does become a problem after he Os with E. If someone else can come up with a good source for why it is dangerous or bad for you, perhaps we will reconsider. But for now, it's working great for us.
     
  7. PostiveChange1974

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    You're absolutely right. Must have gotten tired typing that one.
     
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  8. al14me

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    There is no semen after prostatectomy.
     
  9. CCoello

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    Well last week i was out and about with my girlfriend and knew i was going to be trying our the Dapoxetine tonight so i already took 10mg cia*is. Any way about an hour later is was slam time and at first i didn't think the stuff would work because it was pretty sensitive still. but a couple minutes into it and i started to really feel like a had total control... let me just tell you it was ON! I have never been able to go like that, straight porn star style. Man FINALLY when i felt like i should be wrapping up soon i started to focus and was able to bust a huge nut.
    literally 2 minutes later it was on again. Same thing but i had to try harder to cum. but always in control.
    I say it all in the best way possible.
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Yes it can cause prostitis from build up and not being released. I heard about a christian guy whos girlfriend would jack him off but not finish him off and he got prostitis from it.

    I dont understand why people would not ejaculate, there is nothing wrong with ejaculation and sex will produce dopamine anyway, its stupid.

    No-PMO is bullshit, have sex just dont PM, O from sex should be a non issue and is good for you, they say even a regular ejaculation is good for us or at least for people with prostitis and this is a fact.
     
  11. MetaGame

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    In my experience. Karezza (sex without O) can mutliply ur nofap benefits x3 at least. It also takes away a lot of the exhaustion from orgasm. My motto with this is basic. Dont do anything to the extreme or that causes so much discomfort that it defeats the purpose. I dont advise learning to M without O btw. its a bad practice even when done well. Ppl will keep telling u this and dumb ppl will keep trying it and getting burned.

    But basically sex without ejaculation is basically foreplay. On its own its harmless and fulfilling and a great productivity hack and connects u more. especially if masturbation/porn ruined a bit of ur sensitive or u come too fast or take too long. It takes that out of the equation and all the anxiety that comes with it and allows u to just enjoy her body and the pleasures without thinkin about swappin position to reach a goal.

    For me now during sex if its organic and natural then just orgasm. If not then dont force it with all kinds of positions and pulling on her and objectifying her body so u can bust ur load.

    Simply put its about the journey not the destination.

    But like i said thingsl ike this if u practice it to the extreme just like anything in life u will run into issues. So just be smart about it. A lot of these things have been practiced for countless years with little to no consequence. You can youtube al ot of these things and find variations of it from several cultures.

    Edit: first time i did karezza even somewhat unintentionally. When i got home I WAS SO HYPED MAN. felt like i could go change the world. Thats what u want. U want sex to make u feel good and go take on the world. U dont want it to stress out and exhaust u then to worry about if u got her preg etc
     
  12. nofepfepforlife

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    sex itself barely did anything but orgasm eventually sent me back into flatline and/or soft erection.
     
  13. Marcarita

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    For the prevention of prolactin spikes (which could be extremely ugly) this could be useful. Useful, but certainly not one of the best options out there.
     
  14. Shiva44poison

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    Taking pills is good for health ???
     

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