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Rebooting P-addict (maybe also sex-addict??) Mixing sex and P in my addiction...

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by John AB, Jun 6, 2017.

  1. John AB

    John AB New Fapstronaut

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    I’m 28 yo and have been on Reboot for 45 days. This is my first post.

    I feel like my problem with P is different than the ones described by most people in here. I hope some of you understand my position and can help me out.

    I have always had a lot of sex. I have had four girlfriends each one over 2 years time and I’m still with my current girlfriend now. I have been with just short of 100 women, I am very outgoing, social and positive person. All this might sound as bragging, however, this is not the intent. I feel like my problem with P might be linked to sex with women.

    In general all my relationships and sexual encounters have been with good sex, no ED problems and no problems with O with partner. The last 15 years of my life have been like this, however, all the time I would still use P. I could sometimes have sex in the morning and then PMO twice during the day, then twice the next day until having sex again in the evening. With one partner we even used P together while having sex. I have also had problems with being unfaithful and have had multiple partners.

    I want to be free of P totally, and I have been so the last 45 days. In average I would PMO twice a day, but often for 45 minutes a time and when I didn’t do it, I would think about doing it. It was controlling my life and taking up my time. I have M 8 times during the reboot period but without P. I have also had sex maybe 20 times in the same period with my girlfriend. I have been with my current girlfriend for a year now and have never been unfaithful to her. I would really like to be free of P and at the same time being able to be 100 percent faithful to my girlfriend. I am going in the right direction and I am seeing a lot of benefits. The sex has gotten better, I have more lust for my partner and I enjoy life even more than before.

    So here is my actual problem:

    When I see girls on the street I think about having sex with them - all the time. I live in a big city and it is spring time. Last week I was at a street party, sober, and a drunk girl walked over and started to kiss me before I pushed her away. When I’m in a public space I just look at women all the time and I want to have sex with them, and I feel like I actually could - but to stop those thoughts, because I want to be faithful to my girlfriend, I think about going home or to a bathroom to watch P. P has been my go to place to not be unfaithful to my partner. Now when I don’t use it, I’m just crazy horny all the time when being outdoors. Sure it help having sex with my girlfriend, but she is not interested in having sex more than maybe ones a day. And we don’t even see each other every day. I’m used to having maybe 10-15 orgasm a week, 4-5 from sex and the rest from P. I was hoping it would get better, but it is actually just getting worse, I am getting more horny all the time. That is the reason I have done M several times during this reboot, without P, just to loosen the pressure, so that I wouldn’t do anything stupid.

    Also, I have had a lot of hardcore sex, like P hardcore, and I have gotten used to that being normal. I don’t have that with my current GF, we have great normal sex. However, I keep thinking about all the dirty things I want to do to her, that she is not interested in, and that makes me want to relapse too.

    Is it possible that I have a sex addiction as well as porn addiction? I know the two generally are very different. I was just thinking that my symptoms match both of them in some cases: If I am a sex addict, I am a sex addict who watches a lot of porn and where porn controls part of my life. However, if I'm a porn addict, I am a porn addict who has a lot of sex and don't have physical symptoms, and is still very social and happy.

    I see all the benefits from abstaining and I want to get better. I just want to have a normal relationship with myself and my partner. Any thoughts or advice? Have anyone been in the same situation? Should I try to abstain from sex in general as well?
     
  2. Spurta

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    I am not an expert in this area by any means - but to me it seems like you have on O-addiction. You have multiple mechanisms for achieving that O, but it is an addiction to the happy drugs - Oxytocin, Dopamine, Serotonin and Endorphins that are released by O. If you want to get past this, you may have to go on Hard mode for a while. I have no tips on getting there successfully, but if your goal is to be in a fully committed relationship you need to get past this addiction to release. So, my two-cents - go no-O for a bit and see. You have to re-wire your brain and this means breaking the habit cycle and reward loop currently flowing through your brain circuitry. If you get the opportunity read a book called the Power of Habit - it will fill you in on this and how you can utilise the your triggers, to introduce a new habit loop and reward.

    Good luck - LP.
     
  3. John AB

    John AB New Fapstronaut

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    Thanks Spurta, I think you might be right. Maybe hard mode is the only way forward.
     
  4. Jimmy.mike

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    i am not expert as well, but I want to ask you, which started first? P and M or sex ?.. cause Porn actually can get into a phase when you start acting out. or it could be the reverse I am not sure.
    have you also thought about telling your girlfriend about this ? watching P and doing M are almost as traumatic for women as having sex with other girls. many ladies might consider this as cheating.
    those are just some thoughts in my mind. for long term relationship, P and M might be a deal breaker and they hurt as sex for women: making them think they are unattractive and they are not enough. You might need to talk to your girlfriend about it. but again those are just my thoughts and suggestion. This happened to me and i am still in the dilemma and i might lose my wife because of it. but i am happy that at last i got all my secret off my chest telling her about all the dirty secrets in my life.
     
  5. i_wanna_get_better1

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    Welcome to the forum. Many addicts have more than one addiction. This is because they all stem from the same problem. Addicts use things/images/events to alter, medicate, sooth, numb, or escape from negative feelings or discomfort. It can be as simple as boredom and loneliness, as major as childhood trauma, or to medicate an underlying mental health condition such as depression or anxiety. Instead of using outside drugs to induce these changes, sex and porn addicts use their powerful brain chemicals to alter their state of mind. After years of conditioning your brain to need those chemicals to survive it feels strange and uncomfortable when you come back down to 'normal' and thus you are compelled to medicate yourself again.

    Engaging in sex constantly, watching porn, ogling, fantasizing, and thinking about sex constantly is the addictions way of keeping you feeling 'high' or 'medicated'. If you go too long or attempt to abstain then withdrawal symptoms will set in and make you feel horrible. Needing sex all the time is not the product of having a high libido, it is the addiction cravings compelling you to look for your next fix.

    Rebooting involves more than simply abstaining from sex. A reboot will not last if the person does not explore the underlying reasons why porn/sex is so attractive to them. While people are rebooting they are learning new coping skills and distraction methods. It takes time for the brain to return to a calm and balanced state.

    It is also encouraged that you talk about your plans with your girlfriend. If you are considering doing Hard Mode (abstaining from all sexual activity for a period of time) then get her input before making a decision. Making radical decisions like this unilaterally can cause problems in a relationship. I wish you well on whatever plans you decide on.
     
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2017
  6. John AB

    John AB New Fapstronaut

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    Thank you for the replies Jimmy and I wanna get better. I actually think that an underlying cause might be a heavy work load and stress. I have been meaning to cut down on work and maybe start on mindfullness or meditation. I think I will consider your different advice the next couple of days and then maybe have a talk with my girlfriend before I decide anything.
     
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