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Psychosis

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by precivilization, Feb 20, 2017.

Have you ever experienced psychosis from nofap?

  1. yes

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    24.1%
  2. no

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    75.9%
  1. precivilization

    precivilization Fapstronaut

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    I stopped ejaculating for 2 months and became manic and then psychotic with grandiose delusions.I have never experienced something like that before. At that time I lost touch with reality and started thinking I was Jesus. Nofap hardmore can cause psychosis.



    Believe it or not. I got diagnosed with psychosis and bipolar disorder. it was due to withdrawl from porn addiction. Here's a case for internet addiction and porn addiction is the worst form of internet addiction and we all know that i changes neural pathways in brains like any other substance addiction.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4023098/
     
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  2. Dont know what country you are in but there should be early intervention psychosis mental health services. There is a good prognosis for psychosis if treated early.

    Lots of people who experience psychosis also have psycho sexual problems uch as PMO addiction but there is yet to be a causal link proven.

    Psychosus is triggered usually by trauma, stress, social and genetic factors so its unlikely the PMO would cause it to emerge. It could be the cause if stress that could trigger an underlying vulnerability to the disease though IMHO

    Did you get a diagnosis?
     
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  3. NoFap hardmode CANNOT cause psychosis, that statement is just totally bs. Sorry you have mental problems, but the cause is not NoFap. Stress can bring a latent psychosis on top, if you do hardmode you probably have been stressed a lot, since you have no ventile anymore to relieve. Smoking weed and drugs in general are to be avoided TOTALLY if in danger of psychosis. I speak from experience. Although weed is harmless compared to other drugs, and certainly not worse than alcohol, it CAN cause psychosis or bring a latent psychosis to life in people. If you do any drugs, stop it now.
     
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  4. I agree. Uf you are smoking weed or ysing any other drugs it can be hard to distinguish between psychosis symptoms anyway. There are strong links to cannabis and psychosis being linked but we are yet to fully understand how it works.
     
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  5. I Free I

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    Yeah, NoFap wouldn't cause something like psychosis ... What your experiencing is more on a severe level . Just keep on keeping on with NoFap and maybe get yourself some help if the problem persists . Good Luck .
     
  6. I hate to be the one to tell you this but psychosis is likely the onset of something else. I would find out if there's a history of mental illness in your family. It doesn't always mean it will happen to you, but it means you have higher odds and are more suspectible. I have BD and it's very common for people to experience their first symptoms in college... which I did. Lack of sleep/stress is a big one. Did the whole Jesus/grandiose delusions thing too. Weird how it's a common thought. You need SLEEP. The last thing I would want, regardless of condition, is someone to experience another manic episode. That shit's scary, yeah? Look into medication and therapy. Take care of yourself :)
     
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  7. Michael Svensson

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    For me its the other way around. I feel more mentally stabile than I've ever been since I quit PMO.
     
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  8. Seek proffessional help either way. If it is psychosis you will need to be assessed and if it is to follow a treatment programme to recover which is separate to your nofap journey
     
  9. skeptical

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    I think psychosis can be triggered by extreme fear, which makes your thoughts delusional and can get you into an abnormal state of mind.

    Now when it comes to nofap you can get into something called flatlining which can give you very undesirable outcomes such as insomnia, depression etc and this is only during the reboot which does not happen to everyone and depending from person to person, the severity of it also differs. If you do not know what flatlining is and you undergo it, I would not be surprised if you could get into a psychosis, If you read my first post, I even said I was soul less because that is what happen to me, I was terrified of the flatline because I did not know it was part of the process, even though I stopped nofap, I had built a mentality that was not in sync with reality, as soon as I read about flatline, that all changed for me and I have been progressing slowly after that, but the main thing it gave me back was hope.

    Here is a video about flatline that I think is very good:


    To clear things up, nofap can't give you psychosis as it is only a practice to stop an addiction which is PMO, the effects of stopping the addiction (detoxicing) can lead to less desirable effects which if you don't know is linked to the detox can (not neccessarily will) make you delusional but it is also important to mention that there has to be extreme fear involved for this to happen I would guess.

    Another reason why I even give out statements like this is not due to imaginary thoughts about psychosis but it is actually because I have been through several ones during my years when I did drugs

    I want to say that this is all my personal opinion and I have no reference on any of the information other than my own experience of incidents that have happen to me, if you have anything to contradict what I have posted, feel free to correct me
     
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  10. Intrusive thoughts, depression, anxiety: yes
    But psychosis?
     
  11. precivilization

    precivilization Fapstronaut

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    At the time I was in NewYork. Yes I was hospitalized for a week. I was diagnosed with Psychosis and bipolar disorder. But believe it or not. But sure nofap plays a role in it because i can clearly see how it nofap started my delusions of grandosise and have it devolped into a psychosis. I have personally experienced it. but definately there are other factors that played part in it. such as past trauma.
     
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    Believe it or not bro. I got diagnosed with psychosis and bipolar disorder. it was due to withdrawl from porn addiction. Here's a case for internet addiction and porn addiction is the worst form of internet addiction and we all know that i changes neural pathways in brains like any other substance addiction.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4023098/
     
  13. precivilization

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    I completely agree with what you said there are definately other factors that played into it. such as ptsd biploar disorder but it trigggered. Believe it or not. I got diagnosed with psychosis and bipolar disorder. it was due to withdrawl from porn addiction. Here's a case for internet addiction and porn addiction is the worst form of internet addiction and we all know that i changes neural pathways in brains like any other substance addiction.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4023098/
     
  14. precivilization

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    Believe it or not bro. I got diagnosed with psychosis and bipolar disorder. it was due to withdrawl from porn addiction. Here's a case for internet addiction and porn addiction is the worst form of internet addiction and we all know that i changes neural pathways in brains like any other substance addiction.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4023098/
     
  15. Still incorrect. Psychosis isn't caused by a disorder. A disorder can cause psychosis. One doesn't always mean the other. Healthy people don't have episodes. Symptom vs. disorder. Let me put it to you this way -- ANY thing that leads to stress leads can be a trigger. I understand your desire to blame NoFap but really it was going to happen at some point. It sounds like you are trying to excuse fapping but that isn't going to help anyone, especially yourself. What's done is done. Just be careful now
     
  16. precivilization

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    Believe it or not bro. I got diagnosed with psychosis and bipolar disorder. it was due to withdrawl from porn addiction. Here's a case for internet addiction and porn addiction is the worst form of internet addiction and we all know that i changes neural pathways in brains like any other substance addiction.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4023098/
     
  17. precivilization

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    I dont think you really get what I am saying. Porn withdrawl can cause psychosis. I am not saying it is caused by any disorder. Just forget it. You wont get it.
     
  18. I actually read your link this time. Interesting. Still this only presents 2 cases. I'm hesitant to say that NoFap is the main reason for your psychosis but I see why you'd think that. Again, I reiterate: What is done is done. Withdrawal of anything bad is good. The case study didn't suggest going back to the cause, just possible correlation. I'll pray for you. Stay safe
     
  19. precivilization

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    Thankyou. I would say NOfap is being one of the triggers but there were other factors as well such as PTSD, childhood abuse and subustance abuse. so it could be due to any of these. But I felt nofap triggered it. because everything was about semen retention and starting getting delusional because i thought have this amazing resource now that makes me so powerful.It was kind of like a spirtual awakening in a sense.
     
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  20. We have to be very careful not to negate somebody else's experience of mental illness guys.

    When somebody is assessed and diagnosed with psychosis part of the process is to undergo somethong called formulation.

    This is a psychological formulation of the underlying social, psychological and biological underlying vulnerabilities and possible stress triggers that 'awoke' psychosis so to speak.

    It is very important that the person who does this formulation the person who has experienced psychosis feels validated by this. It is their story. Their truth and their relapse prevention (to psychosis) relies on them being able to identify their own triggers and avoid them.

    Even so called experts in the field dont fully understand what causes psychosis. I dont and its my job!! We should be careful making sweeping statements about these things as we really dont understand.
     
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