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Psychosis or Paranoia?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by plugg, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. plugg

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    Psychosis or paranoia?

    I have had quite a serious sexual addiction for a long time. Started with normal porn, bit more extreme, chat sites, group porn, gay, straight, didn’t matter. I’m hectrosexual but I think watching so much porn and seeing so many naked men made me confused maybe? I watched femdom stuff and I’m ashamed of myself but the damage has been done. I’m now trying to fix myself.

    During uni I’m convinced that my uni mates looked at my internet history and know about some of the sordid stuff I’ve looked at. I always get super paranoid when out with them. The last couple of times I’ve felt that they have been playing mind games with me. I went to a party over the weekend and got quite messy. I sat down and 3 of them were having a very strange conversation with each other. The conversation was incoherent, it didn’t make any sense what they were saying but they carried on exchanging words between them. Even though the conversation didn’t make any sense, they were throwing in words like sexual, computer, slave, depraved, behind closed doors, etc. Trigger words.

    They also had quite a knowing smirk on their faces. Like they were being clever. I’m convinced they were having some fun with me. Fucking with my fragile mind. I was so paranoid and scared. It made me feel really uncomfortable. I’m convinced they think that I am a dirty pervert. Probably gay. Probably sleeps with prostitutes. I don’t although I have looked at sites with sex workers on. I suspect they know I have looked at such sites.

    I’m a sex addict with an ongoing problem that I have been struggling with for many years. I have ignored it for years, pretended it wasn't an issue, hid it from everyone. Now I have finally acknowledged it I am trying to get better. I am getting counselling, seeing a sex therapist, psycho dynamic, nofap, SAA meetings. I want to get better. I just want a normal life and to feel comfortable around others.

    Maybe it was all in my head and I’m hearing things? Psychotic episode maybe? PPD maybe? I really don’t think so…

    Has anyone else had any similar experiences? I don’t know what to do.

    Thanks for reading
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2019
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  2. Chrisonthis

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    You know for a fact that you aren't psycho hearing things, accept it, they caught you red handed so of course they're gonna make fun of you like what did you expect from not clearing you history? And it's ok I'm sure some of them have watched weird porn before too. I'm 18, a chronic porn watcher and masturbator and I haven't gotten a full erection in over a year or 2, I've watched transwoman and beastality at one point out of curiosity. I can't get it up for sex most the time and have almost ZERO feeling in my penis. I've never had sex fully pulsating hard. It's because I'm circumcised and lost much feeling plus death gripping my meat 5 times a day or more since I discovered porn at 10. You wanna stop watching porn? Put your google chrome or whatever on safe mode and occupy yourself with other hobbies, the trick is to keep your mind off of it. Try 2 weeks no PMO (Porn,Masturbation, Orgasm) and see if it improves your mood (chronic masturbators tend to be tired a lot) and your sensations and erection quality. Keep me updated on everything
     
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  3. daniel193

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    Hey man, thanks for sharing your experiences. You said this latest experience with uni mates happened at a party which was pretty messy. Could it be too much drink / drugs that was messing with your mind in that situation?

    These are you friends and if they really thought those things I doubt they would want to carry on spending time with you. It's probably not what your mind is making it out to be.

    Sounds like you're getting a lot of help with your addiction which is great. Have you tried talking about these paranoid thoughts with any of your therapists?

    Take care man.
     
  4. Chrisonthis

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    All my "friends" are dicks too don't worry. They found out I go soft on girlssimetimes (psychological/mental ED meaning I remember going soft at first on my first time ever having sex out of nervousness and keep thinking it will happen again, basically it makes me worry and focus on tbh e wrong thing during sex so the performance anxiety stress kills my erection) and they joked about it once a long time ago so I completely understand how you feel. If they went through my history they would find "dekaratinization of penis" and "reverse keratinization" posts. Which is where circumcised guys build up a dried thick mucus membrane which was supposed to be underneath our now nonexistent foreskin to keep it moist, smooth, pink and sensitive. That layer blocks the nerve endings for more feeling during sex
     
  5. plugg

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    Cheers. Yes I did take some mdma and I was having a good time but then I heard the things I mentioned. It could have been my mind but it’s happened before when no drugs were involved. I really believe I’m not imagining it. I believe that when some people get high or drunk they can turn nasty. Or when certain people get together they can turn into bullies.

    I’ve always been quiet. I spend a lot of time listening and not chatting as much as everyone else. I think people see this as a weakness and some people pry on the weak. Easy target. Let’s mess with his head. That sort of thing.

    I’ve told my therapist about my paranoia and my addiction. I’ll be seeing her again this week.

    Maybe I need to confront my uni mates. I was tempted to send them this link! Probably not the best idea.

    Thanks
     
  6. daniel193

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    I guess it's not possible to tell without asking your friends. From what you've said, I think the mdma along with your current state of mind (coming to terms with your sex addiction) probably had a lot to do with this latest situation. Even if it wasn't entirely imagined, those factors probably made it seem worse than it was.

    I don't think you need to confront your uni mates, but an honest conversation with them (maybe just one trusted friend) might help to put your mind at ease. It would be hard but if they're not prepared to reassure you and get behind you then maybe you should be thinking about whether they are the kind of people you want in your life as you work through your recovery.

    Did you get your therapy on the NHS or are you paying for it? Sounds like you're doing everything you can to fight this. I hope it's working out for you, good luck!
     
  7. plugg

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    Sounds like you’re suffering too there with the anxiety and thinking too much about things. I hope things get better for you there. As for the dekaratinization thing. I had no idea this sort of thing happened. That’s a difficult thing to deal with. I’m sorry that you’re experiencing that. I’m sure if your friends saw those search results they wouldn’t take the piss. Sounds like a serious medical issue. I hope you’re ok.
     
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  8. plugg

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    Cheers man reading this really helps. I decided to go private for professional help. I saw a counsellor once a week for 8 months to help get through the break up of my relationship and anxiety issues but when I finally admitted to myself that I have a sexual addiction I decided to find a specialist. So I’ve just started seeing a sex therapist who has a lot of experience with addiction, trauma, etc. It’s quite expensive but I want so badly to be free and comfortable within myself again. Thanks again.
     
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  9. daniel193

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    Very impressed by your commitment and it sounds like you are doing everything you can to recover from this. Acknowledging the problem is the first step to finding a new, healthier part. Well done!
     
  10. ultrafabber

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    Drugs are unhealthy for anyone but particularly so for someone with an addiction. You should stop taking drugs immediately and stop hanging out with people that do drugs, they will drag you down with them.

    As for what you're describing, it does sound like paranoia and you should take this to the psychologist you're seeing. The lines between paranoia and psychosis are quite blurred but it doesn't seem like you lost contact with reality so it would not fit a psychosis per se, especially considering drugs were involved and drugs are known to cause or exacerbate paranoid feelings already present.

    The thing is your thoughts are not really that out of touch, it's just that you're projecting them on others - it is you that is concerned and ashamed of your habits.

    Take good care of yourself, keep going to meetings, doing nofap, seeing a therapist, stop using ANY drugs.
     
  11. plugg

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    Thanks Ultrafabber. That’s interesting what you say about psychosis / paranoia being blurred lines. I have to say though I wasn’t completely off my face. Just quite drunk and a bit high. The things I heard them saying and the looks they were giving each other was real. I really do believe they were playing mind games. I know I sound paranoid but I also know what I heard.

    This is why I’m wondering if it could be some sort of psychosis? Like a schizophrenic hears voices. Anyway, I will definitely be bringing this up with the psychologist. I will stop taking drugs. I’m thinking maybe I will stop seeing these people too but don’t want to become isolated.

    Gabor Mate said in a podcast once that pain or trauma can lead to behaviours which can soothe our pain, which can leave us feeling ashamed and so we hide, which in turn leads to more pain and isolation, more disconnection, which can lead us to acting out addictive behaviours again. So it’s a viscous circle.

    I really can’t be dealing with the paranoia in these situations anymore. I’ve had enough!
     
  12. Fenston999

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    The porn and shame alone is enough to make you paranoid and then you put a drug on top of that. Your head twisted little things that they mentioned. Stay off that crap. Do you even know what you took? You didn't make this stuff yourself so no telling what else was in it. Bad choice, that stuff will mess you up. If you want to be free from addiction don't take drugs AND don't watch porn / touch your pecker. You're doing a good thing getting so much help, your in college but don't buy in to all that college life bullshit and try to fit in with ppl that hold you back. If they were mocking you, if they are advocating drug use they aren't friends, ditch them.
     
  13. plugg

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    Thanks man. I will stay off the recreational drug use from now on for sure. I’m genuinely very concerned about my well being.

    I think the only way to resolve this is to have a very difficult conversation with them. This feels me with anxiety and leaves me feeling vulnerable and scared because I will have to tell them about the porn / sexual addiction etc, but at least I can then say that I’ve been open and honest with them. Also seeing the therapist tomorrow so looking forward to that.
     
  14. daniel193

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    I guess it's just about how to have that conversation mate. You don't necessarily need to tell them about the porn / sex addiction (at least not in so many words). Just tell them you've been going through a rough time, been seeing a therapist about some stuff in your life, need them to be a bit understanding for a while...

    No doubt it'll be tough, but it's all part of your recovery. I've got no doubt you can get through this and come out of it a stronger, happier person.
     
  15. plugg

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    Thanks, I hope to be happier one day.
     
  16. hiddengem88

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    @plugg
    Hey man, read your post and I just wanna say well done on your self-recognizance. I’ve actually had situations similar to yours, where I have gone pretty far into my sexual addiction and am paying the price for it.

    I’ve had a very, very similar instance where I’ve been rolling on molly and high on weed where I was certain people knew I was an addict and that they knew of my HOCD battle I’ve been fighting. I was positive they were talking about me while I was right in front of them, and listening to music with lyrics that were saying the same things. It totally messed me up and caused me massive anxiety to where I couldn’t be in the same room as my friends. After my experience, I went back and listened to the music and there was absolutely no lyrics that matched what was going through my head. So it could’ve been an induced psychosis or something, although I haven’t confirmed with my friends because that would be an incredibly awkward situation if it was wrong. I’m a believer of drugs amplifying things that are crushing you
     
  17. plugg

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    This is very interesting. Yes it sounds very similar. The same in fact. So it could be some sort of induced psychosis. I do, like many of us, carry a lot of shame and guilt, and that mixed with anxiety of the party, groups of people, drugs, alcohol, my insecurities, etc etc surely is a recipe for disaster! Well I will be giving the rest of it away or flush it down the loo. Either way, I won't be touching it again.
     
  18. hiddengem88

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    I’m with you there, all of my problems came from drug use and I am certainly staying away from substances 100%.
     
  19. g2stop

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    I am 42 and really depressed that I am only dealing with this porn demon now, I wish I did it at your age. Believe me, you are in a very good position and have your whole life ahead of you.
     
  20. plugg

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    Hey man, I think I forgot to mention my age. I mentioned uni but I meant they are old uni mates from back in the day. I'm actually 37 now so finished uni over 10 years ago and don't see them that often. Whenever I do see them it's always plagued by paranoia. I know I could cut ties but I feel like I haven't really got that many friends and i don't want to become isolated and disconnected for fear of acting out. So I think we can relate. At 37 and 42 I like to think that we are both young still!
     

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