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I was deeply affected. I had no idea PMO had such a deep impact on my life, to be honest. When I quit, I saw the light for once in my life. I am never going to see PMO as normal for as long as I live. I'm not relapsing any time soon.

 

How can you believe that? Seriously? Ever tried running after an ejaculation or PMO session? You seriously don't notice any difference?

And I have read that study, and it's poor. They found out that sex in strategic games when you had to be less competitive and fired up, then it could have been productive.

But seriously don't believe such bullshit LMAO. Dopamine low - low energy and poor performance, dopamine high - you're energetic and you are more likely to perform better

Really zz...... Man come on.

anyway, i don't fit in this forum. i might be too much of an extremist, but you guys are so naive, and this is coming from a guy with experience.

Remember

A young person should always be ready to take on life, should be motivated and energetic and lustful for life. If not trauma, bullying involved, or masturbation because that will suck the youth out of the youth.

 

I'm not talking about PMO, or masturbation, the study was done regarding sexual activity with a significant other. No self-pleasuring. I don't think masturbation or PMO is a good idea before competition.

 

What do you know about my life? PORN caused my family to break up. It destroyed the marriage between my mother and my father and it started the road of ruin in my own life.

You haven't put your thoughts and life into this.

Go read it then. Old literature, observe people, ask people, study old as well as new literature. Study REAL STUDIES like I have done, read what Gary Wilson has to say about it. check reuniting.info, check all sites you can. Don't believe that any animal can ejaculate too freely without consequences.

 

Sex can sometimes be refreshing if practiced not too often. One rule; "One should feel refreshed and rejuvenated by sex" Then sex has been beneficial. If you're tired, fatigued, then sex has not been productive, it has only drained you of vital hormones and fluids.

However, I hope really that you keep abstaining and you succeed in kicking porn and masturbation out of your life for good, and that you find your true self, because you're not your true self if you've been addicted to PMO.

Good luck.

 

If you think that PMO is a behavior pattern only, and that it does not cause serious neurochemical changes that result in personality traits like irritability, isolation, social anxiety, lack of confidence then I think you're wrong.

and just to make things little clearer for you, the irritability that arise from PMO addiction can cause dysfunctional families. Now, can you try to think one step further away? Or will you repeat "PMO can't destroy your life, you can destroy your life but PMO is just a symptom".

 

Oh really am I. Because I've just told you that it was your dads fault that he broke it up. It didn't ruin your life you did that you just let porn control you. And I think Gary Wilson has said that its the process not the end goal that matters.

I guess just sitting around will make all the changes in the world no work needs to be put it its just smooth sailing. You talk about things you've no idea, not one person has supported anything that you've said I wonder why? I think what you say is destructive for everyone.

 

That's exactly how I felt when I stopped. I felt like myself for once. PMO masked my true personality, and feelings. It is, without a doubt in my mind, a destructive habit that degrades and eats you from the inside out. Truly scary, because it's so easy to hide this addiction.

 

Have you not read the stories? And yes quitting PMO without any other change in my life improved my life x100 more. It made me go from suicidal thoughts to actually enjoying some things. And I did no other change in the beginning.

It's like saying that heroin does not destroy individuals, or heroin doesn't cause dysfunctional families. Fact is, addiction, any kind destroys people. I've seen it, I've worked with addicts, I've studied it in school, I've observed it, I've read about it in hundreds of books.

Just because you'rewith a stable family and always had people around you that could counterattack the side effects from this addiction does not mean that its the case for everybody.

 

Really so what books have you read exactly? And yeah so quitting porn is just quitting porn its not about changing your life huh? And I don't put blame on anything but myself I blame myself for things not going right not using a scapegoat. Quitting porn is abstaining changing your life is rebooting. Why do you think people relapse after a long streak then have a hard time getting back. All the years you watched porn you molded your life around it spending less time with people you also spent more time on the computer you became more desensitized. So you need to change the way you lived because you molded your life around porn.

I feel you can't just accept that sometimes in life it is your fault. I didn't put my problems on others and I hate to say it but it was your dad and moms fault porn may have helped but its a two way thing in life its not just one thing messed it all up. Yes its bad but in the end your actions were done by you theres no absolving that.

 

Just reminding a rule. Also, is it only me or there are others here too who think that the Main section of this forum is plenty of ugly topics lately?

 

I strongly second that.

 

Visiting prostitutes I'd say is even worst than watching porn or edge. You think is real meet With a girl kissing touching etc but is a real danger addiction and a severe collapse. The following days although you not watch porn nor masturbate you want to meet again, and remember, you did not get that girl, was fake and unnatural!!

 

This sounds so nonsensical.

 

How convenient. Let's just starve ourselves and our problems are gone.

 

How is sex with a prostitute less real than with a gold-digger who only sleeps with you b/c of your money?

 

hookerfan no one holds you back - you can visit prostitutes. it is your choice.

why are you trying to justify yourself and why are you doing nofap?

there are many websites for hookerfans - there you will find like-minded people.

for what are you fighting here?

 

Thats a good question maybe its just a perspective thats all. I wouldn't look at it like that this thread is very black and white sometimes perspectives aren't horrible but I do think unregulated prostitution promotes sex trade so I am against that but if regulated I feel sex trade would die overnight.

 

i dont think sex trade would die - it would work (like for example drug-selling in holland).

the state would be the employer (or the pimp in this case). i think the society would never support this.

and mighty gangs will for sure have huge problems with this kind of regulation. they will loose a big business.

this thoughts are utopistic anyway.

 

Guys, I think your attitude here is entirely wrong. Your drive of "taking responsibility" for the society simply does not bring the desired outcome. Just think about it: was prostitution and decadence more common in the old times where people were left to their own (no "modern society" bullshit was there) and only suffered from cultural ostracism or threat to life, health or property by indulging in hazardous lifestyle?

No, it wasn't. Why? Because people act positively: they want to develop, not to limit themselves or reduce down to standards imposed from above. Now, development is perceived differently. Some seeming development can lead to self-destruction: it is entirely natural and serves as an example for others, it allows for evolutionary progress of our specie.

By legalizing prostitution or banning it you are reinforcing its impact on the society anyway: either way you emphasize its role and importance. You either trigger the forbidden fruit mechanism or acknowledge that it serves a social function. What must be done instead is taking a personal defensive and condemning attitude. Defend your family from it, condemn it among your friends - not only the hookers, but especially the clients. And don't make it sound like you're absolutizing morality: let them know you are perfectly aware of and comfortable with your ethical convictions and it is against your sense of honor and dignity to make friends with or otherwise support people who commit to what you perceive as disgusting and humiliating. Only that way can popular attitude to promiscuity be altered. Of course, I need to stress this once again even though I am tired of it: socialism and social democracy are a hindrance to these obvious and natural social mechanisms of virtue. Only republic or monarchy may allow for personal freedom of action and expression of convictions.

Tolerance, political correctness - these must go to hell. What remains intact however is the right to personal integrity of individuals, as covered by basic popular taxation. Let the supply and demand decide. And make your personal voice of opposition an instrument of this old mechanism. I would call it the capitalism of morality.