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PORN should turn you OFF, not turn you ON

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by ultrafabber, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. motion2082

    motion2082 Fapstronaut

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    Reasons why PMO is so addictive...

    1) Women love attention (not sex)
    2) Sometimes we can't sleep with the women we desire (with P you can)
    3) There is no emotional connection (pleasure only)
    4) P won't take my house and the kids (hypothetically speaking)
    5) It's free and obtainable whenever you want it (unlike a woman)
    6) Dopamine Reward DNA
    7) The older you get the harder it gets to find love
    8) Your sex life sucks
    9) You don't find your partner attractive
    10) You're stuck in a marriage you hate
    11) You get more pleasure from pixels on a screen
    12) It's difficult to explain to a woman what you need without her freaking out
    13) Your sexual fantasies are unobtainable in real life
    14) You realise you're going to die and you might as well get off as much as you can
    15) You can't get HIV/AIDS or STDs from your hand
    16) Social Media, Capitalism and sense of entitlement has made us unable to communicate with one another. Narcissistic behaviour means people love themselves more than anything else around them.
    17) You don't like people with baggage or problems
    18) Greed and social status is more important
     
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  2. 4DCreator

    4DCreator Fapstronaut

    Your opinion can be sort of smart but porn turns me on and always will do because it is touching my basic instincts. Maybe if they were cooking I wouldn't be turned on at all because hunger doesn't make me horny. But the naked woman always does. Best is not to watch it. We know it is out there but we must avoid it. But it will always turn me on because of those naked women. And many of them look hot AF. I am not going to be lying to myself that I am blind. If my sexual desires and instincts will be taken from me by some higher energy then ok - I won't be turned on by porn.
     
  3. 4DCreator

    4DCreator Fapstronaut

    Why it should frustrate me? :emoji_smile::emoji_smile: Your post is full of confused thoughts.
     
  4. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    You're missing the point. Yes, naked women will turn you on. The problem is in most porn there aren't ONLY naked women, there's a dick along. And it's penetrating them. Which normally turns you OFF, not on. You end up having a highly arousing stimuli paired with a stimuli that should be the opposite of arousing, but the first stimuli is stronger, you sexualize BOTH.
     
  5. 4DCreator

    4DCreator Fapstronaut

    I know you don't have a chance to watch my other opinions in different forums on this platform but I have mentioned anywhere at least 4x that to see a naked man in porn for me is so disgusting that for 24 years I mostly spent time of watching
    solo masturbation
    as I am not at all interested to look at naked man in the video, and never been.
     
  6. ultrafabber

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    I'm actually happy for you, you're one of the few that was not as affected by porn as most of us have been. I would actually like to ask you some more in-depth questions about your disgust of seeing another naked man (which again, i think it's perfectly reasonable, healthy and natural).

    The problem is that the vast majority (80% or more) men watch man-woman scenes or MEN-woman scenes. And they suppressed/sexualized their disgust
     
  7. PathOfReform

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    And this is one of the reasons people tend to talk shit and mock NoFap. This moronic crap.

    You're trying to convince yourself sexuality is evil and not natural. Yes, porn is a twisted presentation of sex and sexuality, but it still triggers attraction.
    As a straight male,
    if you see an unrealisticly pretty woman moaning in pleasure while she's naked and being pleased, you'll focus on her and imagine yourself as the one dominating her most of the time.

    Stop trying to vilify porn, ffs. Instead of wasting your time trying to convince yourself you're some sort of victim, own up to your fuck ups and work on those underlying issues that pushed you into addiction.

    People here need to wake the fuck up and realize that while porn is certainly not a human need and has no benefits, is not to blame for their addiction. This is an unhealthy approach because somewhere down the road those same problems of yours could reappear and get you addicted to something else, possibly worse. You need to understand that the blame is on you and/or underlying problems you need to solve in order to have closure and carry on. Porn isn't a fucking drug, it sure does have a great potential to become addictive, but there's a reason the vast majority of humans with access to the internet aren't sitting at home, fapping and watching porn every free minute they have to spare.
     
  8. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    Incorrect. Sexuality is very natural.

    Then what if you "see an unrealisticly pretty woman moaning in pleasure while she's naked and being pleased" by a dog?

    How does that work for you? Following your logic you will "focus on her and imagine yourself as the one dominating her most of the time."


    This is the problem with porn, that it combines something that should get you excited with something (the woman) that should turn you off (the man doing her)
     
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  9. PathOfReform

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    This is a very poor argument.

    Obviously, having a dog banging her is going to be very distracting and make you feel uncomfortable because knowing there's a dog fucking her is way more unnatural and odd than just another paid human actor doing that, it sticks out like a sore fucking thumb for various reasons.

    Try again.
     
  10. ultrafabber

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    @GhostWriter covered a part of the answer but i have to add that you're actually confirming my point that you can't JUST "see an unrealisticly pretty woman moaning in pleasure while she's naked and being pleased". You can't JUST ignore the penis/dog/helicopter or whatever is penetrating her and JUST focus on her.
     
  11. PathOfReform

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    Don't fucking patronize me and tell me I don't get the very same thing that I've been experincing and suffering from.

    I never said porn was natural, I LITERALLY SAID IT IS A TWISTED PRESENTATION OF SEX AND SEXUALITY.
    I merely said that there's nothing unnatural by being aroused while watching casual porn. Claiming "porn should turn you off" is absolutely fucking moronic. Sexual content is meant to get people aroused, this is the only reason porn is such a huge, successful industry. They took the Playboy magzines to a whole other level, making it more accessible, vivid and graphic for "maximum" reaction out of our brains. In the process, many people fell deeper than most, like us. Claiming it's all unnatural makes no sense and is evidentally wrong(Inb4 "hurr durr durr our twisted society made it natural").

    This entire paragraph you wrote has nothing to do with what I was talking about.
    Regardless, ultrafapper is desperately trying to deem many sexuality related issues and things like homosexuality as a product of pornography. It's like he's practically on a crusade against pornography, as if it is the sole reason he fell this low.

    I just fucking hate it when people can't own up to their own issues and play the victim. It's not that I give a shit about him saying "mean things" about porn, I just give a shit when he spews out nonsense and infect other people in a sensitive, desperate situation with the same twisted mindset and make them feel as if t. People here need help solving the issues that their addiction created for them and first and foremost find the main reason to way they became addicts in the first place, and confront it, solve it. They don't need to hear a guy preaching this nonsense.
     
  12. Hercules9

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    To be honest, porn DOES turn me off for the most part. My problem is masturbating to my imagination rather than porn, generally speaking.
     
  13. PathOfReform

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    I never brought up the "dog" example, Ultrafabber did. Just wanted ot mention that.

    Have a nice day.
     
  14. AncestralWarrior

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    I strongly agree. Thanks for this post.
     
  15. PathOfReform

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    Listen, I had no intention of attacking you. I apologize for that.
    My experience with ultrafabber is bad. I've seen him say some ridiculous stuff and I'm pretty sure that at one point(it was a thread of a gay person who was seeking for advice)he suggested convertion therapy or something similar. I think he's slowly escalating into a pretty extreme, obsessive mindset about porn and that's not healthy.

    My choice of words was bad. I don't think porn is healthy nor is it natural. I meant that it's natural to be aroused by sexual content and by sexual content I mean casual, straight things. Does it give you any benefit to be aroused by porn? No. Porn is obviously a major part of the problem, but I think that our greatest enemy are the problems that made me resort to this addiction in the first place.

    If you don't agree, we can agree to disagree, I guess.
     
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