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Please Help to Solve How to Fix My Messed Up NoFap Days Count Number

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by AnmysUser18312, Mar 23, 2018.

Do you think I should masturbate just for the sake of solvemainproblem (NoFap day count adjustment)?

  1. Yes, you should.

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  2. No, it's not worth it. The most important thing is recovering, not the NoFap day count number.

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  1. AnmysUser18312

    AnmysUser18312 Fapstronaut

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    The problem is related to: difficulty in determining/counting the accurate and exact number of days I have done NoFap/abstain from masturbation.
    Why? OK, so the last time I actually masturbated fully awake was on 21 February 2018. However, on
    day 8/9 of NoFap (2 March 2018), I masturbated at the bed before getting up but it seemed to not leave any side effects at all as a masturbation while fully awake would give, as like my recovery status remains almost 100% the same. I remember that was the day I was still recovering even more. On that afternoon, I started to became alert of my surroundings and started to recall past events (memory retrieval recovery). I also don't feel tired that day as masturbation would usually make us very tired/no energy. HOWEVER,: On that day, I had a stuck thought (related to OCD over dents/scratches) which lasted several days --> a week to recover. This fact has caused me to think maybe the 2 Mar masturbation had affected me in some way, or if not, it could be just the serotonin part not yet recovering after abstaining for just 8 days. I CAN'T determine which one! This causes my brain to have kind of "screwed up" on how to count how many days/the number of days have I done NoFap/abstain from masturbation, which is whether to count from the original "real" last time I masturbated (21 Feb) or the day I masturbated at the bed before getting up at the morning (2 March).

    What's strange is: seems that every time I masturbate at the bed after my body woke up but I didn't get up yet, it seems to be fine and doesn't cause any effects at all that a masturbation after getting up.fully awake would. I suspect this is because: (my own theory) At the morning as we have just have woke up and begin to be conscious, most of our body functions/organs/components are still not yet activated/working or functioning. Our energy levels are still quite low. Therefore, when we ejaculate, nothing is affected as most of the nerves/organs are still in "sleep/rest/hibernation"mode, they aren't aware or not able to react to the act of ejaculating/lose of sperm/semen/testosterone... but...this theory of mine doesn't make sense a bit because lack of testosterone means lack of ability to recover... I hope someone can make some research about this.

    Is it true that masturbation at the bed before getting up ((at the morning)) doesn't count as a relapse? Looks like every time I do that it at that timing, it doesn't seem to affect anything...

    My brain is kind of "screwed up" and quite frustrated by this issue on how to count the number of days I have done NoFap. It's so screwed up that this thought keeps coming up and coming up many times and I have to ruminate/think deeply about it in order to stop/argue with the thought. It's also coming out with other theories such as the masturbation on March 2 had probably affected me just partially/a bit, so I can count it as from 21 Feb @/or 2 Mar (both dates), or I should count from 21 Feb as the 2 March didn't affect anything, I should not count from Mar 2 because there might be some recovery progress which started from 21 Feb, I should count from Mar 2 because I had a stuck thought that day which means it might have affected me, etc. It's even thinking ridiculous stuff such as I'm not really recovering at all/not experiencing proper recovery/positive effects due to the screwed up/messed up day count and that I should masturbate again to fix the day count and re-recover properly again from stretch. Therefore, my brain keeps asking me to masturbate again just for the sake of fixing up the NoFap day count and solve these issues/problems. I usually fight with these thoughts and get rid of them by: "masturbation causes death so just don't do it (Autoerotic asphyxiators/brain deprived of oxygen which is all used up for sexual pleasure)", "it's not worth it to throw away/waste 20-30 days of precious nutrients regain/recovery/progress", "I might not be able to recover if I masturbate again", "if I masturbate again I won't recover as good as this time's", "I don't want to waste my life, I want to experience an everyday 'healthy' me", etc. Really damn frustating!!!

    Can anyone here help to give your advises/opinions about this issue? The MAIN problem/thing is: Should I masturbate again just for the sake (1 purpose only) of fixing my NoFap day counter issue? So frustrated about this... I really need answers/best answer for this. If counting from 21 Feb, I've done NoFap for 29 days and if counting from 2 Mar, I've done NoFap for 20/21 days. I don't feel worth it though to masturbate and lose 29 days of nutrients regain/recovery progress. I know the smart choice is to choose to NOT masturbate again forever but if I don't, that issue would exist forever. What do you guys think?

    I suggest to those who had just started NoFap/keep relapsing/still addicted to masturbation, can you guys be kind enough to volunteer to do an experiment to help me/to conduct a research whether masturbation on such timing will give side effects or not/counted as relapse or not: as soon as you woke up in the morning and still on your bed/not yet get up, just masturbate. Then, after waking up/throughout your day, observe whether you experience the side effects/negative effects of masturbation or not as you usually would whenever you relapse/ejaculate and tell me about it. If my theory is true and masturbation won't affect us if we do it at such timing, this could probably bring a change. Maybe we can masturbate at that timing to enjoy the pleasure/fun without any risks. However, my decision would be still not to masturbate even on such timing, for the best.

    Related to this thread (for my full story): https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...t-solve-please-help-all-in-one-thread.162694/
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2018
  2. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    If your counter includes masturbation then you need to reset it, if it is just porn you do not. Sounds simple to me?
     
  3. AnmysUser18312

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    You don't understand. I know it does but it is done AT THE BED IN THE MORNING BEFORE GETTING UP/WHEN MY BODY JUST WOKE UP. I'm not angry for the capital red letters, I just did so to emphasize the main point. The PROBLEM is, I didn't experience any reverse in recovery or negative side effects from masturbation at such timing. If it doesn't give any effects, does it count as a reset/relapse? What if it doesn't count because it doesn't affect the recovery? Can someone try to do some experiment which is to masturbate at the timing I mentioned above and tell me the reuslts (whether it affected their recovery progress or not)?
     
  4. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    I do understand. I doubt you can measure the negative effects in just a day, nor with the kind of accuracy you are hoping for. But if you want your reboot to be avoiding masturbation after you have got out of bed then go for it. It is your reboot and you are free to set whatever parameters you want.
     
  5. AnmysUser18312

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    OK, just 1 more question. Is there any difference between masturbation carried out on the bed in the morning before getting up and masturbation at all other times (other than that)? It seems that masturbation carried out on the bed in the morning before getting up out of the bed does not leave any side effects that masturbation at other times would. I don't feel tired, no brain fog, etc. if I masturbate at that timing, which I suspect is because our brain/organs/body have just woken up and not yet activated.
     
  6. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    I don't experience any difference, but neither am I interested in experimenting to find out if there are for me. But if there are differences for you then you have a choice which only you can make, do you want you reboot to be all masturbation or just once-you-have-got-out-of-bed masturbation?
     
  7. AnmysUser18312

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    Oh I see... I still need advice on 1 more thing. Do you think I should masturbate one more time just for the sake of fixing my NoFap day count issue? Do you recommend me to do so? Do you think it's a good or bad idea? If I do so, the last time I masturbate will be out-of-bed masturbation and therefore will definitely be counted as a relapse/easier to count for me as out-of-bed masturbation surely does gives the side effects for me. However, I feel it's not worth it to lose 20-30 days of precious valuable nutrients regain/recovery progress. My addiction to masturbation has already disappeared. I don't want to deteriorate my health/reverse the positive effects just for this. My decision would be rather not masturbate anymore forever but my brain keeps frustrating me and asking me to masturbate just because of this issue.
     
  8. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    You have answered your own question.
     
  9. AnmysUser18312

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    Oh... Anyway, do you think every time we do act of masturbation, there is a risk it will cause death? I read stuff that masturbation deprives our brain of oxygen as all the oxygen and blood/stuff/etc. are flowed/used for the sexual pleasure during orgasm. I think it's called " Autoerotic asphyxiators".

    And, do you mind to take your time slowly to read my full story thread here: https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...e-help-all-in-one-thread.162698/#post-1373582
    and answer all my other doubts/questions mentioned there? It's extremely long though.
     
  10. AnmysUser18312

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    Hello? You forgot to answer my post above. Another question I have in mind is: is it true that the improvements from NoFap will not disappear if we just relapse one time? Someone on NoFap told me about that. He says that the improvements will only disappear if I continue to keep relapsing and relapsing. Is he correct or wrong? I thought once we relapse/ejaculate, all the sperms/testosterone are released/lost hence the loss of improvements. I have also read people experiencing all the negative effects again whenever once they relapse (brain fog, tiredness, etc.).
     
  11. AnmysUser18312

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    Hello? Why do people stop replying me after I keep asking and asking? Is it annoying or wrong to do so in NoFap?
     
  12. steveo2312

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    Which counter do you mean
     
  13. AnmysUser18312

    AnmysUser18312 Fapstronaut

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    The counter for how many days I have done NoFap.
     
  14. steveo2312

    steveo2312 Fapstronaut

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    I dont see any counter
     

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