P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, May 12, 2019.

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  1. whysolong

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    You ever tried tyrosine? It's an amino acid that converts to dopamine. Might try it.

    Might get a high quality vitamin and mineral supplement too.
     
  2. Freeddom_Taker

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    Some nofap elites YouTuber, you can tell by 3 years of abstinence that their perspective of life kind of change and for nofap also.
     
  3. whysolong

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    The thing is all of these 3 year abstinence guys on YouTube did not have PIED, they also didn't have the crippling paws/withdrawal. I suspect many of them are actually lying as they try and promote themselves as a men self help channel and market several products.
     
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  4. Younameit

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    I also have the feeling that libido is the last thing to come back, it's the last thing to go when we start to experience negative symptons (I've heard this from a doctor) so it makes sense that it's also the last to return when we heal
     
  5. Younameit

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    that doesn't make sense to me because if I fon't eat for a few days I'll be hungry as fuck wanting to eat the first thing that come to my way, humans starving become animals, they don't lose their appetite
     
  6. Younameit

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    If my testosterone is too low (like below 200) I will start a treatment similar to what bodybuilders go through when they use steroid anabolics for too long and their bodies shut down endogenous production of testosterone, LH and FSH , (I won't be taking synthetic testosterone forever or permanently) they go through what we call PTC (post therapy cycle) which is a treatment that have the goal of reminding the body to produce the due amounts of hormones necessary to function properly. It's not a permanent thing, they usually take some medicines like Tamoxifen or HCG (among many others) to assist the body in its natural hormonal production, endogenous wise, the goal is literally to stimulate a reboot/restart/reset of their HHG axis (hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis) to send the body back to homeostasis.
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    I've been a gym rat since 2013 and I know this realm, I know many guys who used AAS or use it regularly and they (most of the time) have to do a treatment to regulate their hormonal production once they stop the intake of steroids, otherwise the body kinda forgets to work properly and you get screwed, maybe I'll have to go through something similar, maybe all those years of porn (over ten years) combined with these PAWS symptons might have shut down my endogenous hormonone production and I might need a treatment, we'll see
     
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  7. Younameit

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    I've literally tried every single supplements, spent over 1500 dollars on supplements from iHerb, it didn't work for me
     
  8. whysolong

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    Ive done plenty of 10 day fasts and after 4 days you completely lose appetite and switch to ketosis.
     
  9. Younameit

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    well, you would have to get used to it, accustom the body so to speak, if I go more than 6 or 7 hours without eating I go crazzy for sure, 4 days is insane, I'm not saying it's not possible, but I would have to gradually get to this point, it wouldn't be overnight
    with that said, there were periods in the past where I did intermitteng fasting, 12-14 hours, and at the end of the fast I was hungry as fuck, it's all a matter of doing it gradually and condition your body/mind , to push it to the limit
     
  10. whysolong

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    You could be right. Definitely keep us updated.

    Testosterone tests are unreliable anyway as testosterone fluctuates so much during the day. Unless it's incredibly low then it's very difficult to say.

    I've had testosterone tests where im just above the lower end of the scale and then weeks later I've had another test where I have very high levels.
     
  11. Big Lebowski

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    For me it was definitely one of the first things to go. From there on out it was a dopamine high I was chasing. I havent had proper functioning libido for nearly 10 years only glimpses of it during this recovery.

    I remember a girl putting her head on my legs and having a rocker on at 16, that was where my libido was through the roof but I lost it around that age fapping multiple times a day.
     
  12. Freeddom_Taker

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    Danm talking about hormones messed up...!
    Anyway man I'm kinda worried in this reboot because libido gonna be insane. And I don't have no girls, no funds and no job right now. This reboot put my life on hold for 4 years actually.
     
  13. Younameit

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    how are you making ends meet then
     
  14. Freeddom_Taker

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    I had to stay at my parents struggling with the addiction. I do part time jobs on the side. Then again struggling to do them sometimes.
     
  15. Younameit

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    how long has your flatline been lasting
     
  16. Freeddom_Taker

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    Almost 10 months
     
  17. whysolong

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    You improved at all in those 10 months or has it just been constant shit
     
  18. Freeddom_Taker

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    Do you know where I can see Gabe
    Do you know where I find Gabe Deem full pmo' s stories? Was he a long pmo addict or severe? Any link?
     
  19. Freeddom_Taker

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    Yeah I do improve but mostly shit in the process.
     

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