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Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by tweeby, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. tweeby

    tweeby Banned

    Let's say I had to do online dating to better my chances what dating sites do you consider a waste of time and how best to sell yourself in your profile.

    Obviously I get the dark void that is online dating as I tried it before, but I gotta try everything.

    Any help appreciated.
     
  2. TheBigBadWolf

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    Sup Tweeby,

    Depends on what you are looking for. Online dating is usually best for hookups. However if you go on a more serious online dating site like, match, eHarmony, plenty of fish, etc. Then it is more dating and relationship oriented. If you use tinder don't get your hopes up if girls just want to hang out once or twice with you in order to hookup. Best of luck in the dating field man!

    -TheBigBadWolf
     
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  3. tweeby

    tweeby Banned

    Thanks, I'd love to get to a stage where I'm meeting up but that has never happened.

    So clearly I'm doing things wrong. Now I tend to be short and sweet with my messages but generally they don't result in anything, my profile isn't great either from a 'do you want to buy into my life' POV because there isn't much to buy into if I'm being honest.

    Would you fake this or what?

    P.S as I'm being totally honest, I keep my messages short because I'm afraid of rejection, if I opened up and got rejected, it would hurt. I assume this to be counter-intuitive and that's the first thing I want to change.

    Also, it's time consuming to write long messages for several girls, specific to that girl. What do you recommend? Have one opener and hit as many girls as I can?

    What type of photos do you recommend?

    Are there any online resources to look over. (And no I'm not solely focused on online dating, I try to go gym and socialise wherever I can but fuck it is still hard.)

    Approaching is tough too, I guess I don't approach enough.
     
  4. tweeby

    tweeby Banned

    The reason why I'm writing this is probably because Valentine's Day is around the corner. I ain't ashamed to admit this but I wanted to cry today. I was standing next to the girl who works with me and her phone pinged from her bf detailing how he was gonna treat her for Valentine's Day signed off with four kisses. There and then I wanted the world to suck me up and die because I want to be the that guy. The guy who is privy to her idiosyncrasies, the guy who knows what makes her smile or cry. It fuckin hit me like a train if I'm being honest. Nofap is not enough, I'd like something more something tangible.
     
  5. TheBigBadWolf

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    Isn't much to buy into? It's very easy to change that dude. If you are not sure that you are living the life you want to live then ask yourself these 3 questions:
    1- Am I doing what I love everyday?
    2- Am I better then I was yesterday?
    3- Am I happy about who I am?

    If you answered no to any of them, then your number one priority should be to change it into a yes. You could fake it, but why do that when you could instead make it become a reality?

    If you match with a girl online it's most likely because she is attracted to you in your pictures. Think about it like this. If you matched with a girl you thought was cute, but she wasn't a great texter would you suddenly not like her?

    I say reserve the specific openers for the ones you really like. Use casual openers for the rest.

    Ones of you doing cool stuff like going on a trip, playing sports, hanging out with friends, etc. Your main profile pic should be your best pic. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

    I recommend Coach Corey Wayne to anybody trying to improve their dating life. But the best way to learn is through experience.
     
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  6. tweeby

    tweeby Banned

    Thanks bro I know this is not gonna be a quick fix so gotta put in the work. Will look up that dude is he on YouTube
     
  7. TheBigBadWolf

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    He has literally thousands of videos on YouTube. It's insane how much effort he has put into it. He is reaping the benefits of his hard work now though. You got this man, just go out there and embrace hard work.
     
  8. GG2002

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    Hi there, I am female a bit older, but I have been dating for 20 or so years, and much of that has been on online dating. A few things, first it is totally normal to feel sad when you are alone on Valentine’s Day. As someone who has been there many times I felt the same. I believe they call it single awareness day lol. But don’t let it get you down for too long, tell yourself next year will be different and make that happen. Now on online dating. I have posted before but I will summarize just a bit here for you. Women get about three times the amount of emails and correspondences that men get on online dating. The really attractive women say 8 or above, get even more. When I was in my early 30s on match alone I would say I got about 35 or more emails per day. It was overwhelming. Most of those were from men who only looked at my pictures, were not in my age range, were far away, were 20 years older or 10 younger, you get the point. The others were nasty sex emails and finally the last were nasty follow up emails from men as to why I never responded to them, as if that would garner a response. It’s exhausting, so eventually women just look at pictures and go by that. What that means is that if you are an average looking guy, or one that photographs poorly you have to really stand out in that sea of men, all whil she is super annoyed with most of the men. It is difficult.

    So if women do not respond to you that’s why. Most men need to email 100s of women just to get one response which may or may not lead to a date. Understand the numbers and don’t let it get you down. Have a female friend help you take a good picture, and draft your profile. I had so many guys that were very attractive in person, but had horrible pictures. People get very picky in online dating and if a woman can have her pick among men she is going to pick what she wants. Many men would do great at picking up that girl in person, but online, they never get a shot. They get overlooked. Likewise many men get online and think they deserve a 10 and only email 10s overlooking some really attractive and great women.

    Go after the average girls online. If you are going to send an email point out something in her profile, make it personal to her. Keep it short, but personal. Do dating offline as well. Try doing singles events, speed dating,or doing something you like, like volunteering (there are more women by far that volunteer than men), dont let online dating be your sole method of meeting women. Prepare for rejection, lots and lots of rejection. I got it too. It’s tough, I am not going to lie, but after awhile it will become better.

    The best dating site in my opinion is eharmony. The people on there at least from a woman’s perspective are more serious about being in relationships, but are also not as physically attractive overall as other sites. Go on there and tell yourself that you will go out with any woman they match you with and do that. GOod luck.
     
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  9. tweeby

    tweeby Banned

    Thank you that was very helpful.
     
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  10. Thomas Smith

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    tweeby, online dating is an extremely SHITTY avenue for men to meet women. Women have it WAY, WAY easier online than men do. Even GG2002, a woman, said how tough it is for men to do well online. She said that women get 3x the responses as men. I think it's even worse - I think it's perhaps 10x as many! Online dating for men is a downright awful lesson in humiliation and rejection. That being said, it is still possible to find a girlfriend on online dating sites. I also agree with GG2002 that eHarmony is one of the best sites. I heard that there are 3 sites where there may be more women than men: eHarmony, Christian Mingle, and Coffee Meets Bagel. Christian Mingle is only for devout Christians (or is supposed to be). I've had some success with eHarmony. Not the success I'd like to have, but definitely some success. What's key is that you put up some good pix. I had professional photos done - photos where I had a nice button-down shirt on, and jeans and my cowboy boots - and after that my interest from women went WAY up. But STILL, I'll repeat, online dating is still a terribly SHITTY prospect for men.

    As GG2002 said, volunteer! You will always find more women volunteering than men. Volunteer at an animal shelter, volunteer at a church, volunteer at a center for the elderly, volunteer at a center for the disabled, just volunteer! When the ratio is 2-to-1, or 3-to-1, watch how your success improves! There are SO many places where men outnumber women - volunteering is one where WE are outnumbered. Do it!!
     
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  11. WhoCares101

    WhoCares101 Fapstronaut

    My biggest advice for online dating is don't build any one woman your interested in up before messaging her. I would find a profile I liked, we matched, she was into similar things I was into, cute but not too cute for me(not to sound rude just realistic), everything told me she was perfect. Then I spend a while writing the perfect opening message and even tweak my profile to match her own a little more and...... no response. Heartbreak before I even knew her. So don't build anyone up in your mind, keep it realistic. Can't say much outside of that because I have had little success with online dating. Good luck my friend.
     
  12. elevate

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    Every person has the right to reject you the same way you have every right to reject others. Express yourself authentically rather than trying to be liked for somebody that you aren't. Don't trade your values / beliefs / personality / interests in order to be liked by others.

    What matters is if you want to buy into your life. Expand and go deeper into that.

    What kind of person are you interested in? Where would you find these people? What communities can you contribute in that allows you to meet them?

    From what little I know about you, you're into zen Buddhism. I'm sure there are classes / communities / gatherings for such things.

    I'm not a fan of online dating because people are treated like products in a catalog and people are ignored or rejected with a click of a button.

    Face to face is always better. Meeting people through a community helps build rapport.
     
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  13. GG2002

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    Right, don’t put too much stock in a woman you see or even speak with online, until you meet in person and start developing a connection, this is true with women to men as well. That person may not even look like the person you see online. Take things slow.
     
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  14. Hitto

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    Honesty is the best policy I have a hard time learning this but I've noticed girls who laugh at my stupid jokes or don't care that I get nervous sometimes like me for who I am it's hard to get over yourself and realize not everybody is gonna like you but now since staying away from pmo for almost 11 months I've done things I would never consider doing like cooking and mountain biking life is trial and error practice makes perfect the more you go after something and not be obessed with outcomes the more confidence you gain
     

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