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Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted, Aug 24, 2013.

  1. Deleted

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    Has anybody on this forum ever informed a friend or group of friends about NoFap and what it entails only to be met with expressions of shock and even insults?
    Well that is what happened to me they replied with stupid comments such as

    "That's bullshit you HAVE to fap or else you will get prostate cancer!"
    " Fapping relieves stress you NEED to do it!"
    " NoFap is bullshit!"
    " If you don't watch porn/fap then you are gay" ( Yes a person actually said this to me)
    " You Fapstronauts are pathetic and don't have enough self control to keep your fapping under control"

    Basically my point is when I tell other guys about NoFap they respond emotionally and say some stupid illogical things as if NoFap is a personal insult to their current lifestyles ( which it probably is, to an extent)
     
  2. I think a lot of people realise that maybe porn isn't so great for them after all and when you hold a mirror up to people and reveal to them they too may have a problem they will become defensive.

    I feel it's better to only talk about it with people you really trust or other people on the journey. That's why this forum is a good idea. I've found over the years to keep opinions to myself unless I'm asked a direct question. I am a buddhist and it easier for me and creates less suspicion if I keep my beliefs too myself. I guess you could look at it from your friends point of view. If they said they believe that everybody should PMO you would say no your wrong I don't think that's right even if your friend was insistent you yourself know whats best for you.

    It's not wise to always wear your heart on your sleeve.
     
  3. Fitbrown

    Fitbrown Fapstronaut

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    When i was in 20s i thought NoFap was lame/ gay. I am 39 now... And i think exposing myself to lot of porn has made me dependent on viagra for sex qith my wife. Not to mention it has taken a toll on my confidence.
     
  4. I always think of people I admire. And I wonder did Karl Marx spend his life fapping? Did Martin Luther King spend most of his days in his room fapping? Did Gandhi fap for India? I'm pretty sure the great men of history had better things to be doing than bashing the bishop. So to all those haters I say who would you rather be a Great man or a man who is great at fapping?
     
  5. Bruno

    Bruno Fapstronaut

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    I hear you Bro - but there is always the hope for change, that's why we are here. I wish I had never seen it myself, but you can't go back. But you can start again. Here's hoping that 90 day thing fixes up the relations with the lady. And I can say that giving up smoking 7 years ago after 20 years on it gave me heaps of confidence, so maybe stopping the porn monster might do it too.

    In terms of people's view of the NoFap, porn thing, I agree with the other commenter - lots of blokes I know are in denial. I was.
     
  6. flufferoo

    flufferoo New Fapstronaut

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    I began my quest to quit back in 2005 when I converted to Catholicism. However, my reasons for quitting were not entirely religious. In fact, I struggled with the Church's stance on masturbation for some time until I really examined the issue and saw how much fapping was a negative activity in my life.

    My non-religious friends always brought up this point even if I did not, about how the Church is stupid for saying that masturbation is wrong, how that stance hurts children and actually creates pedophiles somehow. I lost friends over it too. And I am not a pushy person with regards to religion.

    The friendship loss would go something like "do you think masturbation is wrong?"; I respond: "yes, but I don't fault people for doing it, I struggle with it myself so how can I judge?"... "but if you say it's wrong, you're judging me right there! If you do it yourself, you're a hypocrit! I just don't understand you anymore, I don't see how we can be friends since we have nothing in common..."

    Sad, but I guess I don't need friends like that.
     
  7. I'm pretty sure a person who would stop seeing you because you differed in opinion is not really a friend?
     
  8. I agree it's a personal thing. In the end if its right for you that's all that matters. I feel sorry for people who are mean because I know what makes me happy.
     
  9. Capablanca

    Capablanca Fapstronaut

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    It's a personal thing. Some people can have a casual drink, others can't have one or they go on a bender every time. If we were in the former group, we wouldn't be here. There are plenty of people who THINK they are in the former group who SHOULD be here.
     
  10. LiveIt

    LiveIt New Fapstronaut

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    What's intersecting regarding Catholicism's teachings on masturbation is that it probably isn't what most people think. The church doesn't oppose it because it is unnatural or disgusting at all like I see from so many people. Not even quite as much as "spilling your seed."

    The big reason why the church opposes masturbation is because of the affects it has on a person's mind. More specifically, over time, you start to view this person/people, whether you know them personally or not, as an object to your own pleasure. As a means to an end. Rather than seeing this person through God's eyes as a sister/brother, they become in your mind a commodity or an object.

    Say you're fantasizing about someone you know. Next time you see that person they are no longer just the friend you hang out with or your coworker. They are now also the one that helped you get off, which is usually not how someone wants to be viewed or thought of.
     
  11. Xfap

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    Dude, same shit happened to me. I told my two best friend and one started laughing. He gave me the lame prostate cancer line and told me how he jerks to porn every night before bed. I told him he was most probably addicted. I challenged him to go 7 days with no jerking or porn. He laughed like "ya right that is lame, I'm too good for that" and dismissed it. I told him he was addicted if he couldn't even attempt the challenge. They just kept laughing and played it off.

    I think nofap exposes an ugly truth most people don't want to admit.
     
  12. Xfap

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    I used to think it was ultra lame how religion scorns masturbation. Now that I realize all the down-sides of it and see how it negatively effected my life.. I think those guys way back 1000s of years ago were on to something. They saw it was pretty much an addicting drug. Nothing productive comes from it. You're much better off putting that energy into improving your life and getting real sex. The famous 1930s book Think and Grow Rich had a similar theme too. They called it sexual transmutation ( harnessing your horniness and focusing it onto something productive )
     
  13. jibjala

    jibjala Guest

    It is crazy to me how everyone acts like fapping is "the way to go".

    I am 33 and I remember 20 years ago we kids would laugh and make fun of anyone we found out fapped. The person that fapped was ridiculed (though it was probably something most of us were doing - I know I was). It was seen as a weakness like "you lame loser can't get a girl".
     

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