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No, wetdreams are not "natural"

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Koldhand, Sep 18, 2018.

  1. Koldhand

    Koldhand Fapstronaut

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    This myth about wetdreams being natural needs to stop:

    There is no such thing as "excess semen": Your body doesn't need to get rid of "old semen" if you don't ejaculate. The body absorbs it and produces new.

    The ONLY biological purpose of semen is to be used to impregnate the opposite sex. Everything else is a total waste of us mens most valuable liquid. Our life force is not supposed to be spilled on our sheets.

    Try to debate me on this. Pro tip: you can't.
     
  2. TheManDude

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    Right, because my body was trying to impregnate a women when I got my first wet dream at 10 years old, that's pure gold. If you think they're not natural that's cool but don't try to act like your opinion is the truth without facts to back your claim.
     
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  3. Koldhand

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    Did you ejaculate at the age of 10?
     
  4. TheManDude

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    Yep, first wet dream... didn't knew what the hell was happening at the time.
     
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  5. Koldhand

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    Did you watch porn at that age?
     
  6. TheManDude

    TheManDude Fapstronaut

    Didn't even knew what porn was, that was before I had any interactions with internet and magazines here in my country are not very common.
     
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  7. Sleep is natural. Dreams are natural. Sex is natural. Ejaculation is natural. I'd even say that masturbation is natural. I'd argue that porn is not natural, it is artificial.

    The problem is when you say that "Everything else is a total waste of us mens most valuable liquid. Our life force is not supposed to be spilled on our sheets." These are moral judgements. You're bringing an unnecessary moral judgement in to things that are natural. I just don't understand some peoples' hang-ups about wet dreams
     
  8. I'm a woman, I have orgasms in my sleep occasionally, usually when I have gone without for around 20 days. My body still forces that release if it needs it. And I'm pretty sure it's not trying to impregnate anybody...
     
  9. Davidphd1866

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    I think the original poster may have meant that wet dreams are not INEVITABLE. Of course they are "natural" in that they can be involuntary (I've only had one in my life), but isn't the real question whether or not we should accept the wet dream as inevitable and "natural"?

    I don't know the answer. But I DO agree with him that the purpose of semen is for impregnation and nothing else.
     
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  10. Pastor Preston

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    Interesting. What I want to know is your view on sexsomnia? I recommend looking it up. By definition, it is acting out sexually (ie: masturbating or having sex) during non-REM sleep.

    My view on wet dreams? They are naturally occurring, but at the same time, they are the byproduct of something that is unnatural. People are meant to have sex just like they are meant to find shelter. Without shelter, you would desperately look for something to stay under. If you don't have sex, you masturbate or have wet dreams as a response to your natural sex drive. In that sense, yes they are unnatural. I see what you are saying.
     
  11. Pinetree

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    I don't believe in the myth of "excess semen" either.

    But wet dreams are "natural", in the sense that during sleep, sexual arousal happens (to my knowledge most men get erections usually every night during sleep), and sometimes that results in ejaculation.

    Now, I'm not sure if the issue is actually about dreams, in the sense that I'm not sure if the sexual arousal, which is scientifically documented must always happen in a dream with sexual content.

    But there was a time in my life, when I was feeling especially guilty about wet dreams, and somehow managed to stop the dream from within and wake up before ejaculation.
     
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  12. James Jones

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    That shut him up ROFL :p
     
  13. James Jones

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    I think wet dreams are natural, just like sweating, sneezing, peeing & shitting. Although these things can be managed, they are involuntary. I mean, when you gotta go...you gotta go! ROFL :-D

    Coming to what you said newgrip preston, what you said doesn't quite make sense to me. Let's say a boy starts having semen at 12. He cannot just go out and start having sex. Also, no one can expect to have sex every few days without interruption in their whole lives, like into their 80s! Do you see? Age 12 - 82 = 70 years. i do not think masturbating is necessary. All that leaves is the bodies natural way of responding to these conditions.

    I looked this up. Apparently some people donot let go of semen whatever... they absorb. Some people it comes out when they piss or poop. The rest have wet dreams. To me, all three things are natural but we are different. So the guy at the top may absorb, so it is natural to him. But that doesn't mean that other bodies are doing something unnatural... its just different. Do you see what i mean?
     
  14. James Jones

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    Oh yeah, i forgot. I have had two wet dreams in this 20 days of nofap hardmode. I didnt do anything wrong. Just happens lol.
     
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  15. dominate@#123

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    Well there's nothing to feel bad about wetdreams but I think that precautions must be taken by a sincere person doing nofap because wetdrems happens due to multiple reasons. I just had my first wetdream on 18 September morning. Happened on my day 77( was surprising though that why didn't it happen earlier) and then again today on my day 78. And today I managed to note the time because I woke up exactly after the Ejaculation cuz I felt it when I was kinda sleep. It was around d 7:55 am. These were my first two wet dreams/nightfalls.
    Now what I noticed in my case is that:
    1) There are two types of wetdreams. One, when it happens without you dreaming of sex and the other, in which there is some sexual activity going on in the dream. In my case, I was having sex with a female in my dream. Which was quite shocking because untill now i haven't edged or even thought of a prolonged sexual thought. Maybe about female 1-2 times but never edged.
    I haven't masterbated, watched porn or had sex for 78 days now and I have complete control over myself and urges. But in the dream I was indulging in the activity like I wanted to do it. And the reason is what I have always heard & read that while sleeping it is our conscious mind( which we can control) that goes to sleep but the subconscious mind remains awake and then it shows us dreams according to what we have conditioned it for years until starting nofap ie.sexual activity.

    2) Both times the the incident happened between 6-8 am in morning. And if you check out the ancient wisdom or knowledge of BRAHMACHARYA (lifestyle of a celibate), a celibate or brahmachari should wake up at 4 am in the morning because wetdreams typically happens in the fourth quarter of the night. And I swear guys that morning i planned to wake up at 5 am. The alarm went off, I got up and took a piss but because of lack of willpower I went back to sleep. And after 2 hours and something it happened. And even today morning i pressed the snooze button, slept for 1 hour extra and started dreaming again(having sex in dream) I felt something wet and woke up abruptly at 7:55-8:00 am. That is the only control I had but it was too late.

    So guys coming back to the topic, wetdreams have multiple reasons- constipation, a loaded stomach, unhealthy and junk food, excess meat consumption, alchohol, smoking, late nights and waking up late in the morning, and sexual thoughts.
    and the solution is that we must change our complete lifestyle. But if wetdreams occured to you in the same way to you as in my case, then I suggest waking up early at least at 6 am if not 4. We have to take care of this through precautions because wetdreams maybe not very harmful but it is still the leakage of our vital life giving semen.






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  16. Burrich1

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    Sorry @James Jones, I couldn’t resist with the visual I got in my head. Thank God shitting and pissing isn’t the same kind of involuntary as sneezing and sweating.
     
  17. Jason_Tesla_19

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    Not true. My last wet dream happened during a non-sexual dream.
     
  18. Koldhand

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    It may "just happen" for you but It's not natural for the body to ejaculate 2 times in 20 days. It takes the body a minimum of 14 days to recover from the loss of semen.
     
  19. Koldhand

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    You are a female.
     
  20. Yes.. exactly. Orgasm happens in dreams because the body wants to release pent up sexual tension being held in the pelvic floor muscles. In men these contractions result in ejaculation. In women it's just the contractions. Its not about the body wanting to release semen its about the body wanting to release energy and ejaculation is a bi-product of that.
     

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