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New policy: If you threaten frivolous legal action against NoFap, I'll ban you.

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Administrator Account, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. If you have a problem with one of the volunteer community moderators, you are welcome to complain, yell, do whatever. You don't have to agree with them. You don't have to agree with the forum rules. You can have your opinion on the matter and even call them names, whatever you want to do.

    But fair warning:
    • I generally do not get involved in user altercations.
    • I generally have no detailed knowledge about what the moderators are currently doing aside from a general overhead view of what's going on. @themammothrept is far more aware of specific situations, along with @sparkywantsnoPMO, @Jen@8675309, and other members of the moderation team.
    • I probably do not even want to hear about your specific fight with another user. I don't care. While the health/helpfulness of the community is very important, I've got enough to worry about in my own life.
    • I've delegated forum moderation for a reason: so that I can stay away from the drama, steer clear of the trolls, so that I can focus on actually helping people and spreading the word about porn addiction around the world.
    • I trust the moderators. They've all been hand selected and work very well as a team to make fair decisions. And there's a path of escalation where you can have other moderators review your situation, and ultimately the highest level which would be @themammothrept.
    • If I have to get pulled into a situation on the forums, I'm generally not happy about it.
    • Every time that you threaten NoFap with legal action, I immediately get pulled away from whatever more important thing I have going on, to deal with your nonsense.
    If a moderator suspends you, mutes you, or instructs you to do something, and your reaction is to say that this site is supposed to be a "free speech" zone and that you're suing NoFap or any other kind of legal threat:
    • This site is not a free speech zone. No idea how you ever got that idea. There's a long list of rules. There's a user agreement.
    • No lawyer will take your stupid case on contingency. (although they likely will take your money, if you can pay out-of-pocket) You have zero cause for damages. The user agreement well covers NoFap from liability.
    • You won't actually sue NoFap because you would lose and that would be a huge waste of your time and money.
    • Suing us would be a huge waste of NoFap's time and money, which is far better spent actually helping people instead of dealing with your idiot loser ass.
    • You are not entitled to use this website. This isn't public property. This isn't your property. This is private property. I can ban you for any reason. It can be as simple as me not liking you. I don't do this, but it's important to recognize that you have zero "rights" to use this site.
    • I pay server resources to host you. If you threaten my ability to keep the site online with a frivolous legal threat, I will no longer feel comfortable spending my money (via server resources, my time, etc) to help you.
    • After I ban you, feel free to sue. You won't. But if you really want to, you can serve the paperwork via mail to PO Box 81015, Pittsburgh PA 15217. (United States)
    • I will most definitely counter-sue you, if possible, for wasting our time, money, and resources. I will publically shame you if you frivolously file a lawsuit. I'll send a photo of your stupid face to everybody on the mailing list to let them know about your shameful action.
    • I know you won't actually do it. But simply threatening it is a huge waste of my time.
    RIP "kingpietro" (first person to be banned for a legal threat)

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    (he was asked to make a minor change to be more specific in a post, and responded to the moderator's request with a thinly veiled legal threat)

    The ban has nothing to do with anything at all aside from him wasting my time with a frivolous legal threat.


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    I can think of at least ~10 people on the forums who have threatened NoFap with various frivolous legal actions. Stop doing it if you don't intend to follow through and file. If you still decide to send empty legal threats, you're on my sh*t-list and you'll be banned immediately because not only is it an unnecessary waste of my time, this is a very personal threat against my work, my livelihood, and NoFap's ability to continue helping people. Don't say that I didn't warn you :)
     
  2. Sounds more than fair to me. I like how you get things done, you don't beT around the bush
     
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  3. hardowner

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    I am moderator in another forum, so I fully understand what you have to face. In all the forums there are users that don't appreciate the mods' effort. If they can't respect by themselves, we can force them to do...
     
  4. P-Free

    P-Free Fapstronaut

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    Well said. The only thing I'd suggest being careful of is this:

    "I will publically shame you if you frivolously file a lawsuit. I'll send a photo of your stupid face to everybody on the mailing list to let them know about your shameful action."

    The only reason I mention it is because, in some jurisdictions, that in itself is a legally actionable activity. I'm a non-practicing lawyer so I can't (and am not!) giving legal advice here, but just wanted to bring that to your attention. Now, if you're doing it via username and only on the site... probably not much of an issue. However, even in that case, I would avoid using pictures, if they are of the actual user.

    Otherwise, rock on, man!
     
  5. If they file a lawsuit, their identity is already publically accessible through the court records. I'd simply take publically available information and share it with more people. Not discussing doxxing user identities here, but merely publishing a story transparently broadcasting if somebody files a frivolous lawsuit against the website.

    If they can bully through the court system, I can tell others what they are doing.

    Again, I don't think that it will happen. But I want to make it very clear that I wouldn't hold back if somebody made me spend a ton of money and time defending against a bullying lawsuit because they got their feelings hurt by a moderator.

    Photos for the purposes of criticism are generally considered "fair use".
     
  6. P-Free

    P-Free Fapstronaut

    That is true. I should have edited the "file a lawsuit" part out; I was thinking of the threatening to file a lawsuit part. My fingers were moving faster than my brain. lol I manage a legal blog and you are free to publish whatever is in public records, that's true.

    I really appreciate your efforts. Do you ever actually sleep, my friend?
     
  7. The legal threat screenshot posted was probably the tamest one I've gotten. We've seen it all.
     
  8. sounds like someone has been disrespecting the boss!
     
  9. u376

    u376 Fapstronaut

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    But ....he his wrong..... disagreement is one thing.....but threatening in name of law is a serious thing
    Bye bye pietro
     
  10. Wow! Threating a lawsuit over that is stupid.
     
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  11. Gotham Outlaw

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    Threatening to sue a forum? That gotta be the dumbest thing I've heard today. I also made a bunch of memes. Indestructible Balloon 25082018222630.jpg
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  12. nofap user: let's talk about the cerebral anatomy of the Argentinian leaf-nosed bat during its summer migration

    @Rick C-137: I have a meme for this
     
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  14. Yooo you in Pittsburgh my dude??
     
  15. vxlccm

    vxlccm Fapstronaut

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    Telling it like it is. Quite a fun read!

    Thanks for all your hard work, sir!! Sorry this has to be a thing.
     
  16. Contentful T

    Contentful T Fapstronaut

  17. Well done, boss. Being anything less than a total dick is suicide when one wants to survive the business of running an Internet forum. Sad, but true.
     
  18. Why garbage? Its funny
     
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  19. IMO it's more annoying than funny.
     
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