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Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by ELITE2BE, Mar 21, 2018.

  1. ELITE2BE

    ELITE2BE Fapstronaut

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    Hello everyone,

    I would like to say sorry for my bad English in advance and to apologise if this was the wrong section to post.

    I am a new member, just signed up. However, I have been following the movement and lurking around for about 3 years now.

    Now to briefly introduce myself. I am a 24 year old male, with 9 years of porn use under my belt (started around the age of 15). The reason I said porn “use” instead of “addiction” will be explained in a bit.

    My case is quite different, I believe, because I don’t really have an addiction for porn per se. This was clear to me when I decided to challenge myself about a year ago to not masterbate. I actually went 4 months with no issues. My issue mainly lies in my deep depression which doesn’t allow me to appreciate the beauty of life and thus the importance of abstinence. I have used porn and masterbation on and off in a very irregular manner. At points I would go nearly a year doing it once a week. In other periods I would do it once a day. In times of extreme depression I would do it 7-8 times a day easy! (luckily these periods don’t last long, maybe a few weeks to months max). I also have several of a few weeks to a month streaks here and there.

    Now that my depression has started to lift up I am trying to get rid of this dreadful PMO cycle in hopes for a better life. It is useful to add that I have never had sex before for religious reasons, even though I have a very loving girlfriend. It is ironic that she (being playful and enjoying sending nudes to me) is the only trigger that makes me crave masterbation (not porn). She unfortunately lives far away but we are in a committed relationship and have already agreed to marriage. I have already discussed the issue of her causing me to want to masterbate and she understands, so that is a plus. No more triggering/nudes from her. I am also more than willing to engage in actual sex with her if it would help me speed up my recovery and save my life. But this won’t be before a year and half from now (18 months) which is good since I have a lot of time to recover.

    Now to dirty business..
    I usually have some strong night and morning woods. During the day I can get spontaneous erections and cause others by thinking about my girlfriend, however these erections are quite weak. I nearly never think about porn, but I sometimes fantasise about my girlfriend. I would also get some exceptional erections when texting her flirtatiously.

    Do you guys think my case is severe?
    Does anyone have a rough estimate for my recovery time?
    If you guys could suggest a plan of action that would be much appreciated.

    I joined this wonderful community in hopes of finding guidance and support.

    Many thanks for taking the time to read my lengthy post! Your input will be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. furture doctore

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    hi there, hmm... by your statement, you have strong night and morning woods-- good sign, means you are healthy,

    weak erection? many things can be contribute to this, not enough sleep( or maybe you sleep late at night, try to sleep before or around 11 at night). bad smoking habits? since you haven't mentioned any, i assume you don't have this kind of issue? but if you do, try to cut it a little bit. and alcohol problems too if you do have a bit of that problem.

    AND do exercise, like go to gym, it doesn't have to be like crazy, maybe once a week, twice a week, whatever you can fit in. and eat healthy! go to the gym and eat healthy have huge boost to your downstairs in addition.

    other then those, i don't have more valid suggestions yet, if you are really concern about ED, go to doctor and find scientific solutions.

    good luck brother! I'm sure you will be fine!
     
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  3. IR254

    IR254 Fapstronaut

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    Hey there!

    Don't worry! I'm not a native speaker myself, but your english is absolutly fine as far as I'm concerned! And I think you posted this thread to the correct section. If not, a moderator will certainly move it to the correct place. So everything is just fine!

    You say, that you had no problems going without porn for 4 months. That's why I also think, that you are not addicted to porn. An addict, who goes 4 months in his first try, usually has an intensely hard time doing so. But actually, I think such a person doesn't even exist.

    I know, that the following might not be the statement you want to read, but I have to say it anyways. NoFap is a solution for a lot of problems and it also helped a lot of people with their depression, but it's not a magical cure for every problem of life. Depression can have a whole bunch of reasons. But since you are not addicted to porn (at least from my perspective), I doubt, that your depression stems from porn use and/or masturbation. It sounds more likely, that it has another origin. Maybe you want to talk to a good doctor and get checked?

    I think, that you definitively use porn as a way of dealing with negative emotions. That's very common among addicts. I myself basically use porn for that purpose only. But nevertheless, I'm still convinced, that you don't have an addiction to porn.

    Stopping to watch porn is always a good idea, even if you are not addicted to it. But don't expect a major difference in terms of your life quality. Since you're not addicted in the first place, their won't be too much change probably.

    To me, that doesn't sound ironic at all. I think it's actually a good sign. Another point, which leads me to the conclusion, that you're probably not addicted to porn. And I have to say another thing, which might be an unpopular opinion on NoFap: Masturbation isn't bad per se, neither is porn. Masturbating and/or watching porn once in a while is totally okay from my perspective. At least when it comes to the negative side effects; moral reasons against porn are still valid, of course (but everyone has to decide that for himself). To me, the whole problem of porn and masturbation is a result of compulsive usage. I always like the alcohol analogy: A beer every once in a while doesn't hurt. It's the amount, which is important. Same goes to porn and masturbation, if you ask me.

    To me, all of that sounds very good. Strong morning wood, spontaneous erections, no fantasizing about porn. All that adds to my conclusion, that you're not addicted. That you have weak erections, when you think about your girlfriend, doesn't have to be a bad sign. You're 24 years old. At some point we simply don't pop boners everywhere. Some say, we develope "boner control". But, of course, you can try a reboot anyways. It won't hurt to see, if things change.

    No, not at all. Actually, I'm not even sure, if a case exists for you.

    That's almost impossible to answer. Heavy addicts usually take several months to fully recover. Since you are not a heavy user, it's probably a lot less. One month? Maybe two? Really, it is almost not possible to predict it. The normal "90 days" is a good start to see how things develope. If you feel different after that, you can decide what to do.

    The simple plan: Don't watch porn. Of course, I know, that this is easier said than done.
    Most people will suggest a combination of the following: Meditation, exercise, stay busy, read, learn, spend time in nature, go for a walk, spend time with friends. You just have to find something to fill in the time, you would usually be spending watching porn. Preferably something productive. For me, exercise works best. Try different things and see what works for you. There is no "one plan fits all" kind of way. I still don't know, what strategies work best for me and I'm trying for over two years now.

    Welcome aboard. I think you will get plenty of good suggestions here.

    I hope I could help with my thoughts. Have a good one.
     
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  4. ELITE2BE

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    Hello brother,

    I actually see light in your advice and thoughts, I know there is hope. Absolutely thrilled by your input and I shall strive to eradicate this malignant habit by all means necessary. Many thanks for your wonderful reply which you clearly put time and effort into. This community never ceases to amaze me. God bless.

    In regards to my depression, I can, and everyone else around me see some clear improvement patterns. After years I am able to fight and cripple this demon. I want to add that even though I totally agree that NoFap is no magical cure to depression, my depressive patterns tend to improve quite significantly upon abstinence. Any marginal increase in my quality of life is a step forward and I am willing to strive for it. Discipline is one of my points of strength.
    Finally it is useful to note that my boner strength DOES improve upon abstinence, so this might add an extra piece to the puzzle.
     
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  5. ELITE2BE

    ELITE2BE Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for your reply brother!

    I never tasted alcohol nor smoked. I do have some very poor sleeping patterns and I am working on them. My diet is on point and I am planning to join a gym at some time in future as I am extremely busy at the moment which might suggest stress is a part of the issue(?)

    Thanks again and god bless!
     
  6. IR254

    IR254 Fapstronaut

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    That's great. Then you should definitively keep going! Do the things, which work for you!

    This doesn't suprise me, but it isn't necessarily linked to porn. However, there can be a connection of course. Again: Just try a reboot and see how things turn out in the end. If the situation gets better for you, then keep going. If not, then you know it at least. It's definitively worth a try.

    Thank you for your kind words. I'm glad I could help you with my insights.
     
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  7. ELITE2BE

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    Tomorrow completing my first month of no PMO. Zero craving for porn from day one. However, I have a very strong urge to masterbate (or have sex for that matter) with my gf while on call, or while texting or while viewing nudes of her (being in a distant relationship). I have been through a single short flatline, but it went away within a few days. My libido for the most part has been through the roof. I also frequently had some intense mood swings. Depression has decreased, but still present.
    I believe porn did have an impact on my health and well-being even though I did not develop an addiction to it (I honestly view it as very lame and unattractive), hence the improvement I have seen. Masterbation on the other hand (not to random stranger pornstars!) has been quite a struggle to abstain from. I believe this is because I have no other means for sexual release (again being religious, sex was no option).
     

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