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Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by KMM22, Nov 15, 2017.

  1. KMM22

    KMM22 Fapstronaut

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    Hi Everyone,

    I just discovered this site and have been waiting anxiously for my account to be approved so I can finally get some support and advice. In that time I have read others stories and countless threads, ted talks, articles, and feel like this whole thing is consuming me.

    I posted my whole story on the new to nofap section, but long story short I too found out my boyfriend of 2.5 years has been looking at P, and PMO(he says he would only PMO two or three times a week).

    Anyway, since D-day as you guys call it, he has stopped. He told me he doesn't want that in his life, and never did. He wants to be a better person for me and my boys and will be able to cut it out completely. He thanked me for making him realize how detrimental P was to our relationship and he can now see it for what it is and not an innocent thing that every guy does.

    He did lie to me in the past when I asked what he was looking at on his phone in the bathroom every morning. I knew, I could hear him in there and i have an extremely accurate intuition. But I hoped just me asking about it would prompt him to stop.

    I got upset one time I got him looking at things close to P that would pop up on his facebook, he said he would stop but continued to PMO in the bathroom in the mornings.

    It didn't hit him until I lost my shit while we were in Vegas, and he finally admitted to it. I told him how i felt it was cheating and it made me sick and I think that was rock bottom for him.

    So in my quest for understanding I have asked many questions and one thing he admitted really bothers me. He said he would see things that would remind him of me and that he couldn't O unless he was thinking of me. So naturally I think that he is comparing me to these other women, trying to find similarities. Why would he need that, when I was right there?

    I know I will never fully understand the why, or that I need to. I know I need help and advice on how to get through this. I love him so much and he has made my life amazing after some serious bullshit i went through with my ex. And now this. Thank you for reading through this novel and I appreciate and support anyone can give.
     
  2. anewhope

    anewhope Fapstronaut

    Hi @KMM22

    Welcome to NoFap. The SOs here are wonderful and the site in general has a huge volume of material and others' stories for you to learn from and hopefully gain strength from.

    PAs feel shame and PAs lie. That is what they do. Those that successfully turn their lives around, and there are plenty that do, do so by finally being honest with themselves and their SOs. In order to do that, most need to truly realise what is at stake - the damage they've caused, the pain they've inflicted and the fact that they will destroy everything they love if they do not quit. This rock bottom realisation is normally accompanied by a lot of tears. Do you think your bf has reached that point? If so, then you have a way ahead. You can discuss triggers, how to avoid temptation, what form his reboot is going to take, how making love with you is going to fit into the plan and how he is going to check in with you to rebuild trust - for example do you put monitoring/blocks on his devices.

    You asked a specific question. He said he couldn't O unless he was thinking of you. My first reaction was that sounds like BS. My second reaction was to be reminded of Groucho Marx to Margaret Dumont in the Night at the Opera:

    "Do you know why I sat with her? Because she reminded me of you. That's why I'm sitting here with you. Because you remind me of you!"

    To me, that makes as much sense as your boyfriend's remark.

    You could dig into it further, but to me the most important thing now is that he is truly committed to rebooting and to total honesty. If that is the case, most of the rest will fall into place.

    Good luck

    ANH
     
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  3. KMM22

    KMM22 Fapstronaut

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    Thank you so much. I agree that the most important thing right now is honesty and commitment, but his comment really struck a chord with me. Like it was supposed to make me feel better that he was thinking of me and seeing similarities to me in the P that was getting him aroused. This is what has been nagging me the last couple of days.

    I feel in my heart that he is commited to stopping and being honest with me. He has reached the rock bottom, and cried and showed more emotion than I have ever seen, and that is why I believe he wants to change.
     
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  4. anewhope

    anewhope Fapstronaut

    Yes, it might have been a misguided attempt to make you feel better.

    If he truly wants to change then that's half the battle. You will both have to be strong but at least you are both on the same side.
    Keep talking together; sometimes about the porn but more often about everything else: your lives, your feelings, your hopes and dreams. Make the connection between you as strong as you can. PAs relapse when they are feeling isolated and alone.

    All the best

    ANH
     
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  5. TryingToHeal

    TryingToHeal Fapstronaut

    Hi, welcome. My husband said something similar. He didn't say he couldn't O without thinking of me, but he said he would search out people that looked like me or had the same body type as me. I don't know if he was just saying that to make me feel better (it didn't) or if he really did that, but just posting so you know another PA has done something similar.
     
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  6. Jennica

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    My hubby said the same thing.
    He was searching for my body type (also did not help me to feel better), however I saw his views as it were that I wasn’t good enough for my own body type with consistently compared me to the other women.
    Interestingly enough when he had cheated, she was far from anything like me. Personally I never felt that statement never had any weight to it because of those factors. However I do know that I had changed his taste in body type a degree. He used to be attracted to more softer voluptuous woman and I’m petite athletic build, so in reality he did but then started to “appreciate” the younger perfect fit plastic look from porn (He used to find physical flaws attractive).
    When we began our relationship he never felt he could never reach O with other women because he didn’t love them. But that changed with his PA as the cheating happened with no issue and was incredibly easy for him.
    Thankfully the reboot is helping with all of that.
     
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  7. Torn

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    Hi @KMM22! Welcome!

    I'm sorry you're going through this. I understand exactly how horrible it feels to discover the man you love has been deceiving and lying to you. :( There is hope, though, if he's willing to commit to recovery from PA.

    I noticed after D-Day, "truth" came in stages (a staggered disclosure). Some of the things he said seemed to be aimed at testing the waters, to see if it was safe to proceed with more disclosure. I think it's common for PA's to say some things with the hope of softening our reactions. I heard some honest revelations but also some half-truths. It might be difficult for him to be fully transparent with you until he's been "sober" awhile. Trust yourself, and trust his actions.

    It's great he sounds open to stopping using porn! What actions is he taking to show you he's committed to quitting? Would he be open to therapy with a CSAT? Not all therapists are qualified to treat porn/sex addiction, so it's a good idea to "vet" a potential therapist before going. You can call and ask their opinions on porn addiction. That would have saved my bf several wasted months with a therapist who was actually supportive of his porn use. It might have also saved him from one of his relapses. I'd encourage him to check out this forum and watch some videos like "Your Brain on Porn" by Gary Wilson. There are several books out there he could read on porn addiction, too. Speaking of books, I'm reading one called Mending a Shattered Heart that is great for SO's like you and me.

    I'm glad you came here for support!
     
  8. KMM22

    KMM22 Fapstronaut

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    Thank you everyone! It really helps to have an outlet other than him. I don't feel comfortable talking to anyone else. I asked him what steps he has taken to stop and he told me that he's just not going to do it anymore. He said he knows he is on the edge of ruining his life and that alone is enough to keep him from doing it. I set a boundary that he can no longer take his phone in the bathroom, ever. So far he has not taken it, or been tempted to take it with him. As far as internet trackers, etc. I don't want to go down that road. He is an adult and can make his choices and he knows the consequences. I'm not going to police him hoping for the day he does/doesn't slip up. If he does and is not honest about it, I am gone and he knows that. I just think it would cause myself so much more anxiety if I was constantly checking to see if he is slipping up. For now I want to trust my intuition, and learn to trust him, and believe I will know if something isn't right. I don't know if that makes sense or not.

    When I confronted him as to why I was so against it, it was like a lightbulb clicked in his mind. He understood that P is not an innocent thing. We watched a few TedX talks together and he realized the reality of it. I brought up valid points - that he doesn't know those people, he doesn't know how they got to that point in their life, if they have been trafficked, how old they are, that they are being used as an object and humiliated and degraded. He agreed with everything and thought about his teenage nieces, and how P will affect them in their future relationships. So I know he gets it and he realizes the consequences. He even told me if I did leave he wouldn't go back to it now that he has a different perspective, and actually thanked me for opening his eyes.

    He has agreed to see a therapist which I think would be a good thing for both of us. I know with what has happened to me before in my past I really need to work on my self-image, self-esteem, and insecurities. I did come here mostly to seek support for myself and reassurance that he didn't do this because of me. Thanks again for listening(reading?).

    K
     
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