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My porn addiction has confused me for the longest time.

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by SeekingLife, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. SeekingLife

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    Yup, you said it all. Lol whenever i would find a transwoman that obviously looked like a guy, i would get turned off instantly as I just could not bare to watch it. However, there were some transwomen that i found that looked both extremely feminine and sounded extremely like a girl, which in turn got me off the most. But even then, if there was a slight deepness to the voice i would still go on with it - for the "dirty rush" right? Yuck that disgusts me to think about now..
     
  2. SeekingLife

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    Wow, thanks for the insight. Im definitely on the flatline stage right now at day 11, and I just remembered last night I dreamt that I masturbated and orgasmed - but I didn't wake up with morning wood or a wet dream.. Which was weird. As a result of this, i had a somewhat strong urge but i fought through it. And this is actually the 2nd time it happened - i think i had this same dream a few days before this.

    However, it's obvious my brain is craving to do you know what, and its just ridiculous how it works in this way. It's like it wants to remind of the feeling that feels good, but not of the consequences that follows right after that. Before when i was masturbating constantly, i would hardly have sexual dreams, or even a dream of masturbating for that matter.. I guess this is a sign of the rewiring process?

    And btw, is it weird to state that I've actually never experienced a wet dream in my life? And that i never get morning woods either?
     
  3. Rikarwb

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    In my life ( I'm 17 ), i probably had 3-5 sexual dreams. I only had 1 while on NoFap, and it was the only one where i was watching porn. The others i was having sex with somebody. Coincidence ? I think not.

    The brain will naturally sway to the side where you get more pleasure. Because, survival wise, if you have pleasure, it means you have a higher chance of survival. And i think that addiction gets to a point where the brain thinks as it follows: "Okay, since you have been PMO'ing for a long time, I'm going to assume it is helping you surviving, so, from now on, you'll have to do it everytime !"

    Then the "rational" part of your brain, will say "Nah bro, I don't really need it to survive, so I'm going to stop".
    At least that's how i see it ... certain parts of the brain talking :p

    Yes ... And no. See, if you were masturbating a lot, your body didn't need sexual dreams. So, when you're not masturbating AND IN THE ADDICTION, you'll probably end up having some sexual along the way. However, when you're OUT OF THE ADDICTION, your body won't need a lot of sexual dreams, since the wish for it isn't there ( because the addiction is gone. )
    But at the same time, while in the addiction, you would end up having sexual dreams, since you naturally dream about stuff ( or related to ) that happens in your life, just like PMO'ing.

    In conclusion, it's complicated, but since you didn't have sexual dreams, but now that you're trying to stop PMO you have them, it's a sign of progress.

    How could you find that wierd ?
     
  4. SeekingLife

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    I only say its weird to not have a wet dream or morning wood because it seems so common among men. I thought every man is supposed to wake up with somewhat of a boner - meaning that he slept really good, and testosterone is at the proper level. So that's why i am confused as to why i have never really gotten it, even though i eat healthy and go to the gym 5-6x a week..

    And I also have another question for you, when you do nofap, did you ever masturbate without orgasm? I've been reading on studies that the root of PIED or just any problem people get as a result of porn addiction is simply because they are watching the porn, and the actual orgasm isn't the problem. So even if you still watch porn or even hot girls on the internet, you are still stimulating your brain to this exposure and leads to anxiety when coming across real life women or sexual experience. I'm not even gonna lie, i had the fattest urge today out of nowhere and I just whacked off until i felt like i was about to burst, but then i stopped - and it seemed to make the urge go away by doing this. I just hope by doing this too much wont fuck up my progress, as today was the only day i've actually touched my penis since i started 11 days ago. Man, this is getting difficult lol
     
  5. Rikarwb

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    I don't recall ever having a wet dream, but i do remember having a lot of morning woods a couple years back. Everybody is different.

    The reason why i am here today ( ~4 months without masturbation, ~5 months without porn ), is because i did NoFap gradually. When i truly started, i cut PMO all together ... it didn't work. However, after failing a couple of times, i cut P, but not masturbation ( hence the 1 month difference on my records ). But everytime i masturbated ( i think it was 3-4 times that month ), i reached orgasm.

    I remember some time ago, a guy here in NoFap told me "You're trying to find a cheap way to escape the problem, that will get you nowhere" ( not the exact words, because it was a long time ago, and i dont remember :( ), when i was asking if it was possible for me to PMO while on NoFap ( or PMO healthily while on addiction, dunno ).

    And i agree with him. We have an addiction, part of our brain wants it, but our rational side knows it's bad for us. WE NEED to fight out instinct, and it's very hard to do so, because you're wired to follow it.
    You're hungry ? Eat !
    You're out of breath ? Breathe !
    You haven't had sex for a while ? Have sex !
    You feel like you're going to die ? Defend yourself or run away !

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    I would be a hypocrit if i told you "Oh my god, you relapsed, is going to fuck up all your progress" ... but you need to be true to yourself. If your objective is to go hard more, I'm sorry, you relapsed. If your objective is to stop PM, I'm sorry you relapsed. If your objective is to stop P ... I guess you're good.
    But bear in mind of the chaser effect. You M once, you M twice, then you're watching porn.

    Ask your self: What is my objective ? Then you'll know if you relapsed or not, AND BE TRUE TO YOURSELF ( NO LIES !)

    But try to not masturbate from now on. Try to go hardmore ( No P, No M, No O). If it really doesn't work, cut the P, but not M, and after a while, cut everything. BUT PLEASE don't start M, as a cheap way of not doing NoFap, REALLY TRY to go hardmode.

    Good luck, you'll need it !
     
  6. SeekingLife

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    Thanks for all the insight man but I wish i read this sooner. Embarrassingly enough, i'm going to have to admit. I fucking relapsed yesterday... I have no idea what got to me, but i guess it was because I had a real good day at work - made the most sales, my managers were really impressed, and I just let me ego get the best of me later that day. I was really exhausted from work and I took a nap, but then i woke up with a roller coaster of thoughts of wanting to pmo. I just kept thinking of the pornos that get me aroused and soon enough, i told myself "you know what, fuck it. i'm gonna do this" - and that's exactly what i did.

    If I wasn't so busy yesterday and took the time to go on nofap and read a few threads and more importantly your reply, i don't think this would've happened. It seems that being on this website extremely regularly is a major key to abstaining and realizing my goals and why i started in the first place. But...shit happens and we learn from our mistakes. I started up a journal just a day before i relapsed, but i guess im gonna have to update that. And spring semester for college starts tomorrow on top of my busy work schedule so i guess im going to be even more occupied than i was during this winter break. I think im on the right track to beating this 12 day streak and go for months.
     
  7. Rikarwb

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    First of all ... yeah, failing sucks. But worst than failing, is failing again ( obviously :D ). So please ... DO NOT, fall in the chaser effect ( you PMO once, you want to do it again, and again, and again ... ). If you do that, you'll ruin all your progress. You're still in a position of safety where you can change what's going to happen.

    Second, learn from your mistakes. If ... "having a good day at work" makes you have urges to PMO ... don't stop having good days at work :p But try to contain that happiness, and don't let it translate to masturbation. Go to a party, watch a film, run in the middle of the street like a lunatic ( :cool: ) ... anything better than PMO'ing.

    Also, whenever you have the urge to PMO, take a cold shower when possible, or workout ( do some push ups or something ), that helps you forget about PMO.

    BUT ( again ), IF ULTIMATELY THIS IS NOT WORKING, try to stop porn first ( which, in my opinion, is the most important ), then masturbation. But your end goal should be drop everything, until you feel like you're in control.

    Also don't dwell on your failures: learn from the mistakes and move on. Good luck !
     
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  8. Cyvx

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    Still curing actually, sometimes i have really strong urges to relapse like right now but then i just think about how it felt every time afterwards. It just isn't worth it right? Everyday is a step closer to your goal :)

    This guy btw has some interesting videos about porn induced problems:

     
  9. SeekingLife

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    Yup thats the video that me an Rikarwb were just talking about on the first page. How did this video relate to you? I know basically all of his points did for me.
     
  10. Cyvx

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    Ah didn't noticed that haha. I can relate to all of them too. The thing is that i never understanded where it all came from (and that it was a serious problem) until i watched this video. Then i started to to think back and noticed that this "problem" only started like 2 or 3 years ago while i have been watching porn for 10 years now.

    What is said about the transexuals trying to look more feminime then some real woman is also what really got my attention. I only fapped at trans that where IMO more beautiful then some women, if i could clearly see that they where a man i couldn't get aroused... After watching this video i knew for myself that these thoughts that i had about being gay were totally bullshit. After all my brain thought that it was looking at a beautiful woman and i actually really love women.

    Now that i don't watch p anymore its time to let go of that shame and doubt, even though i till think about it a lot... I was on a short holiday this weekend and didn't think about it at all, even met a beautiful girl and got her number etc. Now that i'm back home and studying all day behind my laptop its like the thoughts are just sneaking into my brain, especially when its only 3 clicks away. But those are the moments that you gotta be strong and just say fuck it! Like you said, failing is part of the process and it will remind you why you quit. When you are close to a relapse remind yourself what the real problem is and fight it.

    You can do it, we all can ;)
     
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  11. SeekingLife

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    Yeah it definitely seems this addiction gets created as we search for more things that get us on, after getting so tired of seeing the same things over and over. And same with you, i just knew when i was doing this, I thought i might be gay - but then i was like there's no fucking way, simply because I can look at any male and not be physically attracted to them. But with transwomen its like a constant search for the most feminine looking one because we are attracted to feminine characteristics, with a side of a rush knowing that they actually arent female..

    But that's good that you're being strong and not letting yourself relapse like i did. I just gave in...and it was moreso because I wanted to see how good it would feel to orgasm after not doing so for a long time - you know how that is. But since i know its the same good feeling you get for 5 seconds and then the dreaded feeling of regret right after - i can say that I finally know not to let it happen again. Its not worth it, never was. Day 1 starts today for me and I shall keep going!
     

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