Masturbation has no "benefits"!.

I don't see any harms of masturbation, as long as you do it to pure sensation and keep the numbers low.

 

If you would think a moment before you post things, you would see that it isn't a contradiction by any means. But let me explain, since you don't understand it:

Simple: The dose makes the poison. To make this clear, let's look at water as an example: Water is probably one of the best things you can put into your body. It is needed for health and keeps you alive. But what happens, when you drink too much water? You literally die from water poisoning.

There are things on this earth, that are dangerous regardless of the dosis (e.g. potassium cyanide). But there are also things, that are absolutely no problem in smaller quantities (e.g. alcohol, and masturbation for that matter), but they become toxic in larger quantities.

I never claimed such a thing. I even explained multiple times, that masturbation obviously can become a problem depending on the amount, context, reasons you do it, etc. What I say is, that masturbation isn't inheretly bad, and that it can even be benefitial depending on how you use it. You keep putting words into my mouth and misrepresenting my arguments.

 

WHY do you masturbate?

 

I personally hardly do. But when I do, I do it to get in touch with myself. To feel myself. To experience myself. To learn to understand myself better. That is eases potential stress, is just a bonus.

 

It's obvious, that you didn't understand a word I said. I'm not even sure, if you even read it. Otherwise you wouldn't have wrote, what you did. I can only invite you, to read the post properly again and try your hardest to understand it. If you still don't get the idea, I can't help you.

Yea, I literally said the exact same thing. You have to read what I say, dude.

The are quite a few studies, that show that a little bit of wine can improve your health. It all depends on the dose. That's the whole idea.

It's not bullshit. It's reality. But since you choose to live in your bubble, you don't acknowledge anything you don't understand. That's sad for you, because you miss out on a lot of great concepts this way. At this point it's very clear, that you aren't interested in expanding your horizon. That's a shame, but if you choose to live in ignorancy all you life, then there is nothing I can do. Maybe some day you will see the broader picture and give up your illusions.

 

There is no any harms of masturbation ?! Then What do you explain the tremendous number of people who joined this website ? They are fed up from from the serious side affects of PM. And btw I don't believe in "masturbation in moderation". Because masturbation itself is an addictive act. Once you try it you can't stop yourself from doing more of it.

 

He knows its pointless to discuss this in a sexual adiction recovery site,is like talking that a beer or two dont represent a problem in a place rehabilitation of alcholic people.It dont have sense,I think hes a pseudo scientific/logical douchebag trying to negotiate mid terms in a place where everybody is obvious cant reach that state of moderate vice,because fap is that,is all useless stuff.

 

First of all, most people on this forum are here to get rid of porn. Masturbation is not porn, and porn is not masturbation. Secondly, you should read my post above, since I literally answered this question in it. Third, you gave yourself the explanation: They are fed up by the side effects of PM. I clearly stated, that I'm talking about M.

You are free to believe so.

Speak for yourself. I can controll it and so can plenty of other people. Just because you can't control yourself, doesn't mean nobody can.

Wrong. It's more like saying soda once in a while is no problem in a forum for alcoholics.

There are plenty of people, who can moderate their masturbation. Just look at reddit.com/r/pornfree. There are so many guys, who struggle with porn, but not with masturbation. Again: Just because you can't yourself, doesn't mean nobody can.

 

Youre the kind of guy that probably would argue that if I shoot my foot off with a shotgun also have benefits and etc. just to make you sound more wise.But you just do this to bust balls,even youre asking for scientific documentation to probe that masturbation is bad,and I see nothing showed by you just that it "uuh dude it releases stress masturbation is goouuud" Come on dont bust my balls,youre a troll with all the words.

 

I don't know who you think you are to know better, what people think than themselves.

Of course I'm interested in logical debates. The fact, that you portay that as something bad shows how ignorant you are. It's funny, that you don't see the irony in your sentence.

And why are you confused about this? I guess it doesn't fit your narrow world view.

 

It's true though. You don't understand it.

That's your problem. If you see yourself as bad or unable, then it will manifest itself. Maybe you should try to look at yourself in a different light. Perhaps you would understand things then.

I think I know better "what I know for sure" than you.

You're right. That's it. Since you only can throw insults at other people, instead of being respectful and constructive, I have no interest in repeating my points over and over again, until you understand them. I made valid arguments the entire time, while you guys called me troll, an idiot, a moron, inhuman, and stupid. It's obvious, that you aren't open for civil discourse.

 

You said that most people on this form are here to get rid porn. From my point of view, most of those people are trying to get rid of both of them and not only porn. Because usually porn and masturbation are two faces of one coin. I rarely find someone who masturbates without porn. Even if they masturbate without watching porn they still fantasizing some porn scenes they watched in the past.

I do not deny that some people can control themselves. But do they guarantee 100% that they will keep the moderation ? Believe me, a human's life can be full of stress periods. In stress periods, people are more encouraged to get out of their stresses by any means necessary especially by easy ways like masturbating. In this case the person is sinking in the whirlpool of addiction without even recognizing. Even if you are not stressed out, sometimes your libido gets really high and the chances of self control in this case is low. And sometimes your libido gets low and the chances of self control in this case is high. But the question is still unanswered, can a person 100% guarantee himself that he won't get addicted ? Speaking about myself, I can control myself. But I am wise enough that I would not claim that I guarantee myself on sticking to moderation. Then why would I put myself in risk in the first place ?

 

Masterbating has some benefits when done in moderation. End of story. The title of this thread is wrong. And so are most of your arguments