Masturbating once is not a "relapse" it's a "reset" - Risky/excessive masturbation can be a relapse.

Discussion in 'Problematic Sexual Behavior' started by Alexander, May 30, 2018.

  1. Conqueror_J47

    Conqueror_J47 New Fapstronaut

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    It's Spanish. This is the translation below....

    I think you have to reedit your reaction, masturbation sometimes reaches premature ejaculation, now if you ambush and avoid friction and will clean your brain of memories everything will be fine and then when in intimacy with another person is very important the caresses until ending in the intimate relationship.
     
  2. Promo

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    Remove this shit(topic)
    It made me relapse
     
  3. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    Nobody "made" you relapse. That is the story that you tell yourself.

    I have read this thread, many other much more contentious threads, articles of all kinds. I have accidentally seen triggering images (e.g. sent to me by friends). I saw nudity and a sex scene on a TV show where I didn't expect it. None of them made me relapse.

    If this thread made people relapse, then everyone who read it would relapse.

    It's important for you to take responsibility for your addiction, because as long as you give other people the power to decide whether or not you relapse, you will keep relapsing, over and over. Because you aren't in control.

    Instead, you need to own your addiction. You need to to own what you do. Don't give others the power to decide if you relapse. Take that power and decide for yourself.

    It is absolutely true that a single act of masturbation, without excess, without porn or p-subs or fantasy, and after completing a hard reboot, is a reset but not a relapse. This is a statement of fact. If a statement of fact "makes" you relapse, my guess is that you haven't completed your hard reboot, and you are subconsciously looking for an excuse.

    This is a lesson that you can learn, so that you can be stronger and fight another day.
     
  4. LeoBR

    LeoBR New Fapstronaut

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    PMO today's morning after 13 days on hard mode... but I'm feeling okay... hope more 13 days, let's go!

    Before I would have done PMO more than once, now only once... but had porns ‍♂️
     
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  5. PJT

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    I use my counter strictly for relapse. I masturbated sometime between now and the past 200 days and thinking about the counter just plummeting to zero gets me anxious and full of despair let alone seeing it. I accomplished a lot and did not feel like I took a step backwards after the masturbation. Very well stated on your part, I tried to state as much to someone else but it didn't come out right.
     
  6. Promo

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    Please I have been having lucid dreams and lucid orgasm ...I'm in day 19 today..
    Does it means I relapse..cis I had it like 2 to 3 times now
     
  7. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    This really deserves a thread of its own.

    However, other people have asked the same question.

    If you are deliberately having these dreams, it's best for you to stop doing it. You should treat it as a reset. I can't tell whether or not it's a relapse, because that depends on what's happening inside your brain.

    But, if the dreams are out of your control, and you are not doing it on purpose, that's fine, don't worry about it, and just ignore the wet dreams. They're your body's way of doing what it needs to do.

    Are you doing a hard reboot (no PMO)?
     
  8. Promo

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    Yes I'm
    Yes I'm on day 19..no pmo
    And also thanks for your answer .but I think the dreams are just on its own ..In not controlling it
     
  9. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    That's OK, then. Just ignore them.

    "Lucid dreaming" usually refers to dreams that you control.
     
  10. Curiosity31

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    Brilliant!
     
  11. materiadeluz

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    I consider that seeing few explicit videos and masturbating little is an excuse to hide weakness, or you leave it completely or you continue damaging your body and your mind. I choose quit completely
     
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  12. materiadeluz

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    Congratulations!!!! i wanna be as you
     
  13. materiadeluz

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    I start today April 15 2019, wish me luck, first goal 30 days, award every 30 days

    God is my friend and my support, nothing is impossible with him[​IMG]

    masturbation is like consuming drugs, you only have the strength to stop using it, give your life to God and you will achieve it
     
  14. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    The OP is talking about masturbation without porn or p-subs and occasional masturbation. I would certainly agree with you if you were to use porn or p-subs (including fantasy), masturbate excessively, play masturbation games (e.g. edging), or use anything that is not genuine sex (webcams, prostitutes, lap dances, blow-up dolls, etc.).
     
  15. chuMin

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    Thank you, i surprisingly found this to be very uplifting and motivating for me. Its more than just redefining the words, but I feel less like I've lost the war after a "reset" which makes me more motivated to continue striving more my goals. It also helped me in constructing limits on what I consider to be acceptable M or a relapse, so that when I see myself straying away from my goals, at least I can manage it more to be less harmful!
     
  16. Cilicio

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    [QUOTE = "Alexander, post: 1491626, miembro: 1"] Hablando psicológicamente, masturbarse una vez no se considera una recaída, incluso si se pudiera considerar que tienes una adicción sexual o una adicción a la masturbación en sí misma sin porno.

    Piensa en la adicción a la comida . ¿Comer una manzana es una recaída para un adicto a la comida?

    Por supuesto no.

    Comer manzanas no excesivamente no se considera insalubre para los profesionales médicos. Lo mismo con la masturbación no excesiva. La masturbación no excesiva se considera un comportamiento normal.

    Las palabras pueden ser importantes. Si desea abstenerse de la masturbación durante un período de tiempo completamente para "reiniciar" su sexualidad a algo más saludable, evite la masturbación durante ese período de tiempo. Pero si te deslizas y te masturbas una vez sin porno, dale un reinicio . No lograste alcanzar tus metas. Y está bien reconocer eso. La palabra reinicio se derivó de la acción de reiniciar el contador de días de racha.

    En el contexto de la adicción a la comida, el consumo excesivo de comida rápida podría considerarse una recaída. Igual que aquí.

    Recaídas
    • Masturbarse de una manera arriesgada que lo pone en riesgo de sufrir graves repercusiones, como masturbarse en público.
    • Masturbarse excesivamente hasta el punto de que tiene un impacto negativo en su vida en formas mensurables
    • Omitir otras obligaciones importantes, como el trabajo, debido a la necesidad compulsiva de masturbarse en ese momento
    • Masturbarse al porno una vez podría considerarse una recaída para un adicto al porno
    Restablecimientos:
    • No alcanzar su objetivo de racha de reinicio y masturbarse una vez sin porno
    • Masturbándose no excesivamente
    ¿Estoy diciendo que la masturbación es buena? No. No estoy tomando una postura sobre la masturbación en este hilo. Estoy transmitiendo los estándares que he aprendido de los profesionales de la salud mental que tratan la adicción al sexo.

    Esta distinción es importante porque ayuda a los profesionales de la salud mental a tomar en serio este problema y encontrar más soluciones. Nos ayuda en la investigación y nos mantiene a todos en la misma página. La recaída es un término médico. Restablecer describe no alcanzar tus metas.
    Cierto, todo en exceso es malo
    Los mejores deseos para alcanzar tus metas de salud sexual. [/ QUOTE]
     

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