Is there a point to NoFap when you're ugly?

Bro first of all according to my experience nofap is not something that beautifies you, its you that make all the changes in yourself. Nofap will make you feel mentally stable and boosts the confidence in you. Which indirectly motivates you to be more stronger than ever, it creates the positivity in you. Which can help you in your condition mate.

 

No offense but you have a lonngggg ways to go with self-development with that type of thinking. That is a very irrational belief set that needs to be destroyed. Looks don't mean shit

 

Pheromones are unconscious attraction. So even if that unconscious attraction would be overridden by a turn off of your unattractive face it would still be there. Better than not having it at all. Imagine it as a scale where your attractive characteristics are weighted against your unattractive ones. So let's say pheromones increase your attraction by 10% and your face decreases it by 60%. That means that net result is 50%. So while you may still end up unattractive in the end, you would be less unattractive. Combine that with great body that you can get with right diet and exercise, good sense of fashion, things like proper haircut, white teeth and other visual things that are within your control and your net unattractiveness level goes down dramatically. And your chance to get a girl goes up.

I'm not gonna bullshit you saying that women do not care about looks and what really matters is confidence. That's just nonsense myth, women care about looks just as much as men do. But it is not the only thing that matters. Confidence adds to your attraction level, your social status adds to it, your financial status adds to it as well. If you optimize all of these then you might be well of. Obviously you will not do as good with women as a model looking men or maybe not even as good as an average looking guy, but at least you will have some action going.

Not fapping can help you achieve social, status, increased confidence and above average income. Because it can be used as a motivation to work hard for those things. Similarly as famous example of boxers who do not have sex before fight to transmute sexual energy into endurance, speed and strength, as well as will. It is a fact that porn and excessive masturbation will increase procrastination and lack of motivation due to mainly desensitization of dopomine receptors, which is a hormone of motivation. But also due to other negative hormonal and neuro-physiological changes it causes. And even if you would not get a girl, there is still tons of other great stuff in life that not fapping could help you get. Like a great education, well paying job and awesome car.

Just to demonstrate to you how much females care about status, confidence and money, also apart from looks, I want to share a few Ted talks from Youtube. You think you are bad off in life with your ugly eyes? Put your life in perspective. These guys are way more off and they are thriving inspirations.







And by the way, all of them have very hot wife too:

Spoiler: Some couple wedding pictures

 

Get some cool looking glasses/shades and just own it. Get to the gym, quit fap, the confidence will start coming.
I know it's tough but it's still a choice. I do start to swagger when I'm in hard mode.
no reason you wouldn't start feeling it too. Try to Get out of your head. Good luck my friend

 

Yes, everybody is better off without this addiction! If you're not sure, just try it for a month, you will just feel better and have more peace with the world and your past + a lot of other benefits that you couldn't even begin to imagine when you was where you are now. Good luck on your Journey!

 

1. Attractiveness is extremely subjective.
2. In general women place less importance on physical characteristics in determining attractiveness than men do.
3. If you're well groomed, healthy, and happy you will be attractive. Which brings me to my last point:
4. Nofap's point extends so far beyond getting women. Do it for yourself. Do it for your own mental and physical wellbeing. Don't worry right now about what is important to other people. Focus on what is best for you, what will make you happy and fulfilled, and the rest will come naturally.

 

Wow, even that little mini-me dude has a gal, and that dude that looks kind of beastly.

 

If your actions and behaviours in life are dictated by how you perceive you look, you are going to have a really rough time buddy. Life isn't about just looking attractive and chasing women...in fact that is one of the lowest levels. You have an opportunity to actualize higher values, and to be a man of service to the community and to the world at large through good conduct and character, actions and beliefs. That's a journey for you to embark on, and soon enough you'll find that the mindset of thinking "why even bother I'm always gonna be ugly" is part of a lesser version of yourself, and not your true higher, spiritual self.

 

OK, realism time. Porn is not bad for all people.

It acts productively as a surrogate for people that have no sexual access, or at least access to the kind of partners they want, and for the exact same reasons touted as negatives here. Yeah, porn does eat up dopamine, and reduces motivation to chase girls. But sometimes that's exactly what you want.

Why? Because all girls are NOT created equal. Just like men, a huge % of them are not mentally and/or physically capable of a happy, healthy relationship.

And that doesn't mean the other 64% live in bliss. Marital happiness is a bell curve. And the 36-37-11%s are just the portion of the bell curves for whom marriage was so miserable it was worth going through the misery that is divorce. Plenty tough it out in misery, too.

But for some people, self-improvement to that extent is not really an option, for whatever reason. Everyone can improve themselves, but the sad truth is if, say, only 2/3 of men and women are capable of a satisfying, healthy relationship, that's more than 50% of people getting left out in the cold*. And to even have a outside chance at landing a happy, healthy girl, you're going to need to be able to outclass her other potential suitors.

* - unhealthy people often take healthy ones off the dating market

Is that you, OP? No idea. Never met ya. You need to make that determination for yourself.
If you're stuck and know you can't get to the level to attract decent women for whatever reason, then you'll probably be happier PMO'ing to desensitize yourself from the biological impulses that will never get fulfilled in the way you want to. PIED isn't a bad thing if the only girl you can pull can scare rats off a garbage barge.

If you realistically have a shot at turning yourself into the kind of guy that decent girls are attracted to though, by all means, go for it. You can always go back to porn later if it doesn't work out.

 

Also, those are wedding photos/makeup, which are touched up more than the cover of Vogue.
Mini me currently receives $30k a pop as a public speaker, and beast dude is a famous author.
Fame is to women what an hourglass figure is to men.

Horrible lesson to teach your kids, but Mother Nature isn't a nice lady.

 

It's good to have more things going for you than just your physical looks, which will fade in old age.

 

This comes from NoFap's town 'About' page:

"NoFap® is a comprehensive community-based porn recovery website. We offer all the tools our users need to connect with a supportive community of individuals determined to quit porn use and free themselves from compulsive sexual behaviors."

So is there a point? Yes.

 

Yes of course, why wouldn’t you want to do something good and positive. It doesn’t matter what you think you look like or what profile you think you fit.

Nofap will help you physically and mentally, the rest is up to you! You’ll have more energy and feel better about yourself. If not then keep doing pmo and gain all the negatives people try to get out of on the forums.

You’re beautiful regardless of what society paints, it’s lies anyways, an engineered lie, and you will find someone for you, just be you and be happy and people will see you radiating warmth and joy and they’ll respect you for that! Plus you’ll look like 100x just being true to yourself!

 

Your post is well intentioned, but lying won't help this person. Looks do matter. How much they matter depends on the individual.

@786Man

Don't worry about issues you have no control over, especially your appearance. I can't pretend to imagine what struggles you have been through, but they can make you that much stronger. I GUARANTEE you those same girls who mocked you would hold their useless tongues if you were an awesome singer, artist, guitar player, etc.

Keep at it man. I made the mistake of trying to solve issues in my head only, that is a path to cyclic chaos. Start doing things, and let the alpha side of your brain (the part that wants to accomplish stuff) take over the beta side ( the part that introduces trepidation).

 

Lolwut? If you want to calm your urges just mo don’t tell him to do pmo, what’s gonna happen when he gets hooked? Pick up residence in these forums? We tryna get outta here not get in here. And what’s with the stats talk and unhealthy people finding healthy people stuff, you should be encouraging him to be a better man. You may be trying to be realistic but realistically doing pmo will potentially make him worse off down the road.

Nah, porn is just gonna warp your mind and blow your standards sky high if you watch that stuff over your lifetime. If you’re having trouble getting a girl it’s only gonna get worse when your mind is so perverse you’ll never be able to correctly connect to someone because you’ll only be thinking of sex when that’s not what it takes and means to meet/find a potential partner. You gotta talk to people like people, porn turns people into objects.

 

Damn guys! you guys are really motivating for @786Man and me! I was born with a port wine stain on my face and all my life I believed I was ugly so I had no confidence and turned to porn for some piece of mind but you opened my eyes. "Looks don't mean shit" .
I will watch those TED videos and being grateful for my face.

 

That's like asking someone whether you should kill yourself or become addicted to drugs because you don't feel like you can accomplish anything in life.

Mateo

 

You’re gonna look better if you love and trust yourself first and foremost. For sure and that’s just a good mindset to have in general. Second, someone can find someone they can get along with. Maybe some people have to lower their standards a bit so they don’t turn away from potential partners, I’ve realized porn has set standards a little higher than I am maybe able to work on for myself, but that’s okay. Find someone that you can get along with on an emotional level and can connect fully, that’s when it gets fun. People from all over are able to find love, just some shut themselves in because of fear of judgment of others.

 

Reality is you'll probably never be a chick magnet. However there is no reason you can't have a healthy sexual relationship with a woman. No one knows what you've been through in your life. It doesn't sound like its been easy. Not everyone is solely interested in appearance though and people who are, aren't really worth spending time with. In my opinion the most attractive trait a human can have is being disciplined in whatever they have chosen to pursue in life. If you free yourself from pornography and masturbation I think you'll realize what a mental prison it is. There is so much more to life.


Another way to look at it is what do you have to lose? Quit fapping for a year and see how it works out. If its a bust you can always go back to your former ways.