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Is M the problem or is it PM?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by VyMe, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. VyMe

    VyMe Fapstronaut

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    Whenever i would masturbate, i would do it while watching porn, never done it alone. In my mind when i feel like masturbating, i just naturally decide to turn on porn.
    However i feel like I'm addicted to porn and not masturbation, so if i masturbate without watching porn is it a relapse? This is difficult because the way you find out if you're addicted to porn is by trying to stay away from it and seeing how you feel, but If you want to know whether or not you're addicted to masturbation and up until that point you would do porn AND masturbate... How do you know?
     
  2. ZenPhysics

    ZenPhysics Fapstronaut

    I used to be in the same situation as you, P and M always together. If I were to try M on its own, I would probably:

    1. Visualize an image of P in my mind during the act anyway.

    2. Feel temporary pleasure after M, and want to do it again, this time with P.

    So yeah for me it would probably trigger the lust for PM, so I wouldn't suggest that.

    You may also need to consider the possibility that your curiosity about whether M alone might not be that harmful is another manifestation of your addiction(i.e. your mind playing tricks)

    Take care man, we can do this :)
     
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  3. Marcothebest_1995

    Marcothebest_1995 Fapstronaut

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    That's the main problem in my opinion: the risk of visualizing those images that were given by porn.
    Let's make an example of what I mean:

    - When I was 13 I used to jerk myself off while imaging my girl classmates of the time stripping in front of me. Or having sex with them, when I was older. This is normal, I suppose. It's normal to have erotic fantasies.

    - Would I jerk myself off now, I would get very horny by thinking at a threesome with me, a girl and another guy, expecially her doing oral sex to both of us. I was a strong threesome porn consumer. That's not good, I suppose, so I should avoid to jerk off to these fantasies.

    You know perfectly if you are in a normal or not normal case. As for me, I am in not normal and so I have to abstain from masturbation. And, goddamit, it's the worst part as I would really like to give me an orgasm every day
     
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  4. VyMe

    VyMe Fapstronaut

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    Yeah i also thought that because I'm thinking about it, it might be a sign of an addiction but I'm not sure because, you know, M also has some good things about it and reasons why you SHOULD do it, so that's why I'm wondering, but you're right, might also be a sign of an addiction
     
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