Is it about the streak or about less ejaculations in general?

The question is pretty simple but I'll explain in deeper. There is a lot of science with many different interpretations going around out there. Like the 7 days testosterone spike or the androgen receptors reduction in rats and way more other stuff. But it basically leads to nothing and gives no clear answers at all.

But what is it about in the end? If you fap once or twice a week after doing it multiple times a day for a decade, is it really "bad"? People in the challenge forums doom themselves for relapsing after 30 days like they achieved nothing, acting like it's about the raw number. People talking about their boost in energy, confidence and attraction/attractiveness after 10-90 days and loosing it for weeks after doing it (once?) again.

I can't do otherwise than believe that it's mostly about imagination, self-punishing feelings like being ashamed,embarrassed and the mindset in general. Yes, masturbation and sex have different but still similar effects on your brain but how do these people imagine to ever have sex?

It would be awesome if some experienced people, who had all different kinds of streaks, could share their opinion about the correlation between nofap streaks, sex and relapses(soft and hard ones) on the benefitial effects of nofap being as objective as possible.

Edit: My problem is that every positive results or nofap seem to be attributed to quitting PMO. So these so called "superpowers" which are helpfull get real sex in theory should get lost after the first real fuck. Since nobody is talking about this I have the theory that when breaking a streak people just put themselves in a self hate and force the negative effects on themselves. Like a placebo.

 

The problem is - relapse ≠ relapse. If you relapse and fap 5 times on this day it's for sure worse than fapping once. For your homones, for your addicted brain and for your bad habits. The main question here - how many days do you "loose" with every ejaculation because you body needs to recover in some way from it.

From personal experience. If I relapse with 1 orgasm, the next day is pretty fine. I feel no big urge. On the other hand, if I fapped 5 times, the next day is way harder and I feel way worse.

 

Not talking about the addiction here but about the positive effects. One does not necessarily have something to do with the other. Sure, to beat an addiction the best way is to stay completely clean from it.

 

Don't take that example to serious, our brain and organism is way more complex than a bone.
But I believe that you are cured if you stop seing porn and masturbation as an alternative to to real sexual interaction in terms of your sex drive.

 

When I masturbate without porn I might end up watching porn later the day because I'm pressing similar buttons. WHen I had sex that day I also feel urges to orgasm again. The releation triggers the porn addiction and I don't think it's possible to ever get rid of any sort of addiction completely. Once the paths were build in your brain, it's way easier to reactivate them even if you don't want to. Famous example - riding a bicycle if you haven't for 10 year, it's a similar process. That's why it will always be risky to masturbate AND also having sex. BUT I'm ready to accept the risk for having sex and fight these urges until they are as silent as possible. Since a masturbation orgasm is easier to achive it will also be more difficult to fight the porn urge with it and will happen more often increasing the risk of a fallback.

If you have good self control and dicipline you might be fine, I don't believe I do.

 

Yep.