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I even had breast implants to fix his addiction. Epic fail, my story! :(

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by runningupthathill, Jun 5, 2016.

  1. runningupthathill

    runningupthathill Fapstronaut

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    My story in brief:
    I met my partner when I was young,(he's ten years older than me) and thought nothing of the fact he looked at porn for up to six hours a day when we where casually dating. After 2 years though I moved across the country to live with him and he gradually withdrew from any sexual activity with me, he explained I had gained weight and he had a preference for the shape of porn stars now. Over the next year I had several cosmetic operations and transformed myself through bitter low self esteem and the need to be loved by him. (I had always had eating disorders before I met him, so although this sounds extreme, his porn addiction and my body issues worked together to make a mess of my life and a lot of issues)
    After looking like a girl in the movies I became really unhappy and had a breakdown, it wasn't giving me the love I thought, (he wouldn't have sex with me at all) and I felt my life was moving in the wrong direction. I wasn't really this person. Not only that My partners porn addiction he had run up a 2 k sex call phone bill at work and it was effecting every aspect of our life as I never saw him and when I do he wanted me to leave so he could "unwind!" Which always ment being alone with porn. I put my foot down and
    He went into therapy and insisted he was over it. But I found out later he lied and was having a email affair (?) with a woman at his new job. This progressed into meeting up but he told me it never went further. (This may be true as he has a hang up about his body and says he didn't want to disappoint her). I put faith in him and we began to be like a couple again.
    A few years later, porn started again and we tried couple therapy. I found out during about another internet affair (another work college) and he spoke at length about me still not looking how he needed me to look to have sex with me Instead of porn. The therapist was rather brutal and described me as looking like a blow up doll and told him he had many control issues. We worked at therphy and I decided to take some control back and leave him, so I had my implants removed and started dressing how I always wanted. I wanted to walk away from him as he found I couldn't ever be the porn star he wanted. It's hard to cope knowing your not can't compete, and I didn't think I'd ever be enough. I was only 29 and had felt I could start to live my life as me again.
    He changed a lot and seemed to adore me as the real me. I was really shocked! He told me for the first time in his life he wasn't looking at me comparing me to his fantasy. Our sex life became amazing, he quit computers, mobile phones and we had a normal life. Two years later
    We had a baby, very happy for several more years until he lost his job and the addiction was back, I had brought him a pc after he begged and wanted to play a new mmo! Well it was to tempting and again he sought more therphy, this time with a speclist porn addiction lady, who also said he was addicted to mmos. (He would play it for 12 hours at the weekend) so it all stopped.

    Last week I (one year on) found he was looking at porn again, this time on his work phone (we have parental controls which he asked me to add but they don't effect his work phone) he risked his job which shocked me, as he's very career minded! He told me there are locks on his phone. He works for a bank and every thing he does can be traced.
    I'm upset as I've been supportive and had approached him and assured him he could talk to me about this any time, I'm not crazy, don't shout or belittle him, just want him to understand that when he's like his he withdraws and I need him to share his feeling with me.
    he would never mess up now he had a baby, and wanted more children with me, very assuring and always laughing if I asked if he felt tempted. All lies now.
    When I caught him he was looking at porn in our toddlers bedroom, she was asleep but he was jerking of while looking at a women in beach wear (sheer) on the floor at the bottom of her bed in the dark. (She had woken and it was his turn to check her, but she went back to sleep and he used the opportunity to act. )
    I'm upset he did this while in her room more then I am that he is looking at it again. He told me he's been looking porn while she's in the same room fir around 6 months and he's weak and can't stop, He assured me , oh she can't see it and it's normal for porn addiction.
    Can someone help? I've done so much and I don't think I can take enough round in this boxing ring.
    He told me the therphy doesn't fix him and it's my fault as he can't always talk to me as I'm recovering from a serouse illness. (True but I'm not dying and improve so much and should be healthy by Xmas ) he told me it was to deal with me being sick at first, as he cant burden me when I need to recover (he thought it would help me in the long term!) but now he says it's for pleasure and he feels it's his time and he deserves it (as he has had to help a lot while I get better in the house and with childcare.) He says he doesn't think he can stop but it means nothing, that it leaves him feeling empty but he doesn't know what to when as he cant deal with lifes situations and his other therphist didn't fix him) and wondered if we could look at porn together as a compromise to stop it being secret and to liberate me, from feeling isolated. I wouldn't mind doing this if it helps but I some how wonder if it will make things worse? I'm also really scared that he looked at porn in our little girls room. (Though he said he would only play then go into the bathroom to orgasuim and usually he cant, as to tired and it porn rarely excited him it's the diversion that's the key) the porn he was looking at was actually real life women instead of fantasy women so he felt that it was safe and it wouldn't hurt me as he only looked at older women ect.
    Then he broke down told me he's destroying his life told me wants to kill himself if I leave him.
    And said he wants to try therapy again.
    :(
    Ps sorry for typos and spelling, I'm up 24 hours straight and feel like a zombie.
     
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  2. oversexedsami

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    Hello runningupthathill. I am sorry to hear you're going through such a time with your husband's addiction. Sounds like he started off deeply entrenched in his addiction from the start, got a bit better but when stress and pressures from life got to him he fell right back down the rabbit hole. It is scary just how addictive porn is, and how many people it can affect as a result. He's certainly got a lot to lose, and he knows that but the pressure of knowing that is eating him alive and making his habitual use worse. I agree, the thought of him masturbating in your child's room is not cool but there is some indication of triggers for his usage here too. Is it just the hiding out and feeling like it's a safe place that drives him to do it there I wonder.
    Stress is going to be one of the biggest factors as to why he still uses porn, as well as the fact that he's never really resolved the issue like he's said about the therapy not helping him. He should try therapy again certainly and it's wonderful that he's still open to the idea. Perhaps he should take some new approaches this time. One of the biggest things should also to be to answer why exactly the therapy has NOT helped before in the past. I must also note, that was extremely insensitive and rude of that aforementioned therapist to say what they did about you and I hate to hear that. Was the lady who specialized in porn addiction beneficial to him at all? I am glad to hear you have these resources nearby, and I hope that he is able to get some real help.
    I would suggest to not enable his usage by watching porn with him. It will normalize it more than what you're going to want to and it won't be conducive to him quitting. He's trying to get you to find some common ground with him by watching it and making himself feel better about it like it is "okay" or even sexy. It's common for we who are addicts to try and get someone to share our addiction with. Unfortunately, viewing stuff that isn't exactly hardcore or even softcore porn still is very triggering and harmful to someone who is a porn addict. Here in this Nofap community they are referred to as porn-substitutes (P-subs) and they usually lead to relapsing and seeking pornography. You might want to do some reading on www.yourbrainonporn.com and/or www.fightthenewdrug.org and get familiar with how exactly the brain is reshaped by porn addiction. It is difficult as hell, but this community's goal to recover from damage caused by porn use is to completely abstain from all viewing of pornography, pornography substitutes, the coinciding masturbation to these materials and in some cases even sexual relations altogether to "reboot" or reprogram the brain's wiring. The addiction is very unique, but has much in common with drug usage as well and just using every once in awhile or just when you're stressed out isn't going to make one recover from this addiction. It is interesting that he is also heavily into the MMO games. I have learned that a lot of people who have internet porn addictions share that trait. The games offer that escapism as well as a major distraction from stresses real life offers. I hope that this helped a little. We are on here to be here for one another so don't hesitate to reach out to talk, vent, ask questions. <3
     
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  3. runningupthathill

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    Thank you so much, it's so comforting to not be sitting here alone.
    I think the last therphist he saw helped a lot because she specialised in porn addiction, (she wanted me to come along for one session to help assure me it's not personal but my husband wanted to end the sessions for costs reasons and felt he honestly was cured, I wish now I had gone along.) He saw her around 7 times .He said he learnt his patterns while there. It was something along these lines.
    -I'm scared/stressed/tired/not in controle.
    -I need to escape!
    -porn distracts me
    -I'm safe
    -I'm distracted
    -I fixed the problem
    -I'm ashamed I looked at this
    -replete.

    Or if you asked me, (though I agree with the above I think it can some times go like this too)
    -I'm resentful about a, b or c
    -I deserve a treat! (He's used this line)
    -it doesn't hurt anyone I can do as I please! (And thus)
    -porn mellows my anger so I'll do this and it will help my wife, as I won't be angry.(this too)
    -I'm distracted/safe/escape
    -I feel anixity
    -replete

    Anyway, he said now (at the time)he knows where things go wrong, he can always control it by talking to me. He has the tools to speak to me and that's his cure.

    Problem is, when I got seriously sick, i couldn't talk to him.

    I feel it's a huge responsibly for me to be his focus in this. If I cant talk to him and calm him he will seek porn, (this is exhausting) and I'm not sure it's healthy for any of us. Please can you tell me if this is usual?
    I'm not sure I'm able to be this strong perfect women who can fix all his fears. It's to much. I just want to take my fake guard down and for it to be ok, for me not to want to be this mother figure to him. I'm lonely and have been thinking a lot lately about how sick I was, I could not walk for many months almost lost everything! It made me think that life is amazing, there is so much to live for.
    Then I have the guilty thought creep in that Is this watching/helping/try to make him happy... (Finally?)! really living? I'm lost. I feel so exhausted. Am on a ton of medication and laying at 8 am not resting not healing but shaking in fear.

    I confess I tried looking at porn with him after before, He really felt it was the solution to all our issues. But soon he wanted porn to be part of every sexual encounter and became hurt when I casually looked at it alone. (I actually was looking at it to try to find some thing he may like, in advance as I felt under a ton of pressure to find good stuff or he would seek it alone) I'm glad it's not adviced, though I never saw him react with that amount of focus ever in bed. It hurt me because it reminded me of how having Sex was before I met him.(with other bfs) A guys focus and glazed expression while watching me making me feel like the centre of there world was so beautiful. I've only had that with my husband when we used porn while being me at the same time, and of course that look, that expression of pleasure was directed at my iPhone while I was kind of , well, of use but not there in his mind. I wish it could be me.

    It's really helpful what you said about the non hardcore stuff being a trigger, this helps me understand a lot more. Since he started reading a lot of sex questions in on line news papers and looking at a lot of papers that shame slutty outfits. I didn't tell him to stop as I can't be his police man. He needs freedom to look at something without always a lecture. I thought in comparison it was ok.

    He seemed to be doing so well not needing porn. I think my illness was a big trigger which was why I was so vigilant in being supportive and approaching him tactfully about it making a come back. I do wish he could of told me then, that would ment so much to me.

    To be honest I feel like I spent the last 13 years supporting him with all his baggage and trying to make him love me, and himself.
    It seems like the moment things go hard for me, for the first time (since I'm always the strong one) and I needed it just to be about me for once, he bailed by going back to porn.

    I can't see this addiction is anything less then selfish. This timing is the worst ever.

    Is that harsh?
     
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  4. oversexedsami

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    You're welcome!

    & no, it is not harsh, it's the truth. It is very selfish and it is such an addiction ruled by ego. It does seem as though there is loads of pressure on you to be his rock in all this. The porn has just changed shape in the way he's related his anxieties and resentment about his addiction onto you. At first, you took the brunt of it by playing second fiddle to his usage and now you're supposed to be the key component in keeping him from relapsing? It is plain out not fair to you. One thing that therapy aims to do in helping the person seeking counsel is to put the person in control of themselves. Even though it is good that he attended several sessions, it probably a) wasn't long enough to work b) he probably felt the actual going to therapy was going to make the change without trying too hard at home/work/etc c) he could understand some of the triggers, but didn't get too into his past, why he is addicted, how he got addicted, understanding how exactly porn harms oneself, spouses/loved ones, society. He simply couldn't have covered too much in 7 sessions, and I just feel like unless you flat out QUIT the porn and the things that are close enough to porn to make you feel like you're able to fantasize as if it were you just cannot gain the results. He's got to find more personal ways to be strong for HIMSELF. You're not his scapegoat, and in being ill and carrying around undue stress and guilt by not being able to keep him from repeating the addiction cycle and the depression following is not going to help your mental OR physical health. He needs to understand these things. One of the things they say about addictions like this that take years to develop and shape us emotionally, mentally, physically can also takes years to heal and recover from. He's going to have to put in some real leg work to overcome this addiction. It may not take years because many people have great results with mere months but it does take restructuring a lot of thoughts and behaviors.
     
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  5. oversexedsami

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    Another thing, years of porn addiction makes your sexual encounters very different too. He simply does not relate to you or your sexual needs and desires the way he could if discontinued use. Sex is an idea, not a connection. Orgasm is a goal, not a destination. Interesting how he reacted when you viewed porn without him as well, very typical when an addict tries to incorporate the materials into their relationship.

    One thing that could also help him to grasp just how fucked up porn is is to read accounts of the rape, drug use, sex trafficking and physical/sexual violence that goes on in the porn industry. That certainly opened my eyes, especially as a female addict. I can only surmise how a male addict with a daughter might feel. http://www.antipornography.org/home.html is a great source for learning more about this. It is a non-profit, non-religious antiporn organization.
     
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  6. Great advice by oversexedsami! Yes, runningupthathill, you can't be your husbands emotional crutch. He is going to have to learn to process those emotions (which seem to be at the root of his P addiction) himself. Formerly he used porn as a crutch. Now without porn he is using you. It might be tempting to give in and be that crutch for him... but you must also take care of yourself. You are likely to be dealing with many strong, powerful emotions that you are going to have to process: shame, betrayal, the feeling of being unwanted and not loved, anger, low self esteem. Which means you won't always be there for him emotionally. You simply won't have the energy. He will have to adjust to that fact, that his porn addiction has taken a real, detrimental emotional toll on your life. Be real to him. Let him know what you are feeling. Don't attack him... just be honest with him. He needs to know that this has done for you, and that he can't expect you to pull him out of the pit. Getting in the pit with him just means you will both be in the pit. You need some objectivity, and that means letting him learn to deal with his own emotions.
     
  7. runningupthathill

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    Thank you so much all, thus advice is so greatly received!

    A few last questions.

    As a p addict should it be my job to monitor his computer /phone: Internet usage? I'm tired of it and the horrible feeling in my gut each time I'm supost to check up on him makes me dread it. I confess I oftan don't check history ect I want to believe with freedom he will do the right thing. Some times I think it's best to ban everything!
    Since this latest addiction comes from the risky use of work mobile though I cannot check it , any advice? he told me he can't ever be trusted ever but needs to keep his phone or get fired. He even said if his job mobile doesn't count what he looks at as porn, it isn't! (It is) and it would block if that was an issue.
    2) the looking in porn in our daughters room, Is this a typical porn addict trait? Or extreme even for this addiction? (Found out he went in there oftan as it was calming and private and he often would sleep in the chair in there afterwards.
    3) is group therapy better? Or do I need to just step backward and stop trying to help. I know he lied to his new therapist today as he returned telling me he told her he was watching game of thrones and I overreacted. It's messed up. Nothing like the truth.
    (Ps we've never even watched that show ever!) when I asked him why he sad that, he said it was the truth in a way and she agreed With him he didn't have a sevear addiction.
    I want to arrange our own sex addiction therphist (a male as I think this would help) and he thinks I'm trying to control his recovery.
    Thanks again fur your help.
     
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  8. ILoathePwife

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    I'm so sorry for your pain. The previous commenters told you this already and you knew it already, deep down, but him wanting you to watch porn with him is his addicted brain trying to normalize it. It will only make things worse. Yes, addicts can be extremely selfish. Your feelings are normal. And, as was also said, it's not going to work for you to police him to fix this. He has to be ready.

    As a wife of a PMO addict who also has a child, I have to say, the story of him PMOing in the same room as your child really got to me. Nothing about this is OK or safe. Even if all that happens is the child wakes and sees him, this is not ok. Addiction esculates and this something I could not accept. I believe he should leave the house or you and your child should get to safety. You've tried everything you know to help him, including calmly sharing your feelings with him. Sometimes the only thing an addict will understand is rock bottom.
     
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  9. oreogirl

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    This thread is an assault on my senses, as I am just reading it, my god I am sorry you are living through this! As I was reading I was like this guy is a real jerk... Then I thought, holy shit, this is my husband, the man I love more then anyone else. PMO addiction is so fucked up! The details are different but in a very real way the same, God, my story is so similar to yours, I can't even deal with it, holy crap!
    I need to get in therapy ASAP!
    PMO addiction is a beast, I believe that only abstaining and constant vigilance can lead to an addict living a full functioning life. Do not watch porn with him,please - is is like a heroin addict saying, just shoot up with me, then you will see how good it is. P is a drug, and you might not be immune to it.
    I would demand that he get it out of the babies room, it is harmful, for all of you. Hard line there.
    I hear you about being the police, or the mom, this addiction turns men into unruly children who can only think about themselves, it is heartbreaking but true. I have heard some SO on here say they had to get a third party to do the monitoring of Internet lockdown, too toxic for the relationship to perpetuate that relationship of mom/police/enforcer/savior. I like being able to check that stuff, I feel like it is rebuilding my trust that his future can be different.
    Read as much as you can about this disease, knowledge is power! Keep reading on this sight, lots of good info, and rest - healing from illness is a bear and you need to ficus on yourself too. You sound amazing, the thing I carry away from your story, this is a life long battle, we are all somewhere along this continuum, please take time for yourself!
    I feel teary, in a good way. My husband is almost 80 days into his first reboot, after a lifetime of PMO addiction, and I already have my rose colored glasses back on, looking forward to a life that is PMO free. Your story reminds me to stand ready to fight, eyes wide open, to live in reality - not in a dream world that isn't real. Just typing that is making me feel exhausted.
    End of this day, take care of yourself, you can't fix this today, he has to fix it, he has to fix your broken heart, the onus is on him, and his brain has been marinated in PMO too long to do the fixing right now. He needs a reboot, you need some peace. All my best to you!
     
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    Anytime. I agree with the male therapist conclusion, and yes that is ridiculous that he lied to the therapist. They aren't judging him in therapy, but that is probably how he feels and that is why he lied. I also don't think group therapy would be better than individual per se, but I also do not know your husband personally. With him lying one on one to try and cover his ass though he may lie even more in front of others thinking he is being judged. I don't too much think that he thought it through before masturbating in her room, I think it is like you said he stated about the quiet. Sometimes places that work for triggering activities aren't even close to being appropriate.
     
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    You simply cannot have anyone masturbating in the presence of your child. It's as simple as that. That you're entertaining some future where this could continue may be a sign that he is overpowering you with manipulation and persuasion. Like a dog that has mauled someone, he has crossed a line and shown you what he's capable of. I'm sorry to say, but I think it puts you on notice. I know he's threatened suicide, but you can't let him hold himself hostage while he continues to threaten your child's welfare. Under no circumstances would you ever be responsible for his suicide.
     
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    @runningupthathill, so sorry to read of what you're going through. I have to agree with the sentiments expresses above - nothing in what you've written indicates that he actually wants to escape the addiction, and as @Bartimaeus has mentioned, he has crossed a major line in terms of being in your child's room. I would encourage you to put distance between yourself and him, and re-evaluate if and when he's demonstrated a sustained life change.

    Godspeed,
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  13. runningupthathill

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    Thanks again everyone for your replies.

    Though it doesn't change the facts, there are a few details that I left out about his using our child's bedroom as a way of hiding out. I thought I would mention them incase I've given the impression he was solely using this as a hide out.
    The first , is over the past few months he's gradually moved into our toddlers room, sleeping on the chair. (It's a long chair we used when she was a colicy baby to take turns sleeping on) Two reasons for this are she's been very unsettled and frequent trips into her room woke me at the height of my treatment (when I'd oftan be extremely weak) the doctors actually adviced is that sleep during this time should be as long and frequent as possible; second my partners snoring was keeping me awake and my oxergen machine was keeping him awake. So gradually he started sleeping in the chair in her room, as a purely tempary mesure. After some time (4 weeks) when ever he would go to settle her early evening he would usually fall asleep in the chair while waiting for her to settle (I usually come up to but can't always walk) so her room started to be refers to by my husband as "his room". He's clothes, shoes bits and bobs all gradually moved in there while I was really sick as he didn't want to wake me in the morning ether. So there for this was his room in his mind. In total this went on for two months. I mentioned moving but I still have an oxergen machine and the spare room is having work done on it so it made Sence to wait. (Around this time was when he started using porn a lot - but more in the later)
    tonight he told me that looking at porn was never done when she was awake and he would forget she was in the room. He said he honestly didn't do this as oftan as I think and was to exhausted to do a sexual reaction, he said he just wanted to stop laying there wondering if tomorrow I would die.
    He's moved out of our toddlers room and says he can't believe he was doing some thing so wrong without knowing. He broke down and told me he is in shock that he even saw that as OK, but addiction makes you find justifications. (Or its only swim wear, but I'd never orgasuim in this room, I can't see her it's dark, I'll hide under my covers ect)
    He said his addiction is destroying everything worth anything.
    When he looked at it on other occasions he said she was present but this never involed mastibation. She would be watching tv and he might glance at it, while popping into the kitchen claiming he was making a coffee, or he'd sit up the table but could see her through the door so she wasn't left unsupervised. if he felt the need he went into the wc to jerk of, which he said took only a minute then he washed his hands and carried on.
    I'm not sure if that changes things or if it makes more Sence. The porn he was looking at was mostly suggestive and naked women, he could not get his work mobile to let him see hardcore porn. (Again, not the point but less creepy I suppose)

    Anyway he came and spoke to me tonight to tell me had decided to see a male sex addiction therapist and told me that he was slacking with the other lady trying to give himself an easy time, and that now He sees that putting a plaster over his porn addiction and it always comes back that way,

    I told him I'm tired by him making me the his warrior who fixed all is messing up my life. He told me he never ment that to happen, at some point he started to rely on me soley instead of porn to cope with life. He told me I must understand he really thought I would die and the panic he felt, when I am the one who fixes and supports him was pushing him to needing a way to escape.

    It is possible I could of died from my illness but my chances of recovery was given to us at 92%. when I was so sick I couldn't move my legs or arms for a period (the dieases had temp paralysed them ) I spoke of killing myself (just a split second stupid thought, I rarely would ever expose such scary information to my highly strung husband, and it was dumb- But at that moment, being paralysed by a dieases and trapped for months in a bed alone, and he looked at me so kindly and asked me what reality was for my health as I didn't seem to be getting better as fast as we hoped - these thoughts mess with you and are out before you know it. anyway it seems he really thought I would do it. He started crying and shaking and trying to hug me when he recalled it. He was a mess.

    I told him I feel we are not likely to be the same or maybe even a couple after this (and when I recover from my illness) I feel we may need to go our separate ways. So much has changed. How can we ever Realiy be happy in this situation of destruction, both effected for different reasons. I'm so greatful for the support he gave me while I was unwell, that's 2 years or pushing ones stress buttons, (we did not know what was wrong with me for the first 18 months) we also moved house, he changed job.. I mean wow, what else stressful things can there be.
    but I can't see a future with someone I can't trust? And we did this so many times already.
    He cried, I cried and he told me it was up to him now to prove himself and if I left him he knows that it would be his fault. told me he was sorry. He told me about the evening he noticed I wanted to talk and he withdrew by looking at porn in the bathroom or spending the whole evening on a computer game. He said he remembers every time I tried to sure him and tried to get him to open up, but he though in his head- I've got this under control and rejected me like a idote.
    He told me that I'll never know how beautiful I am and how pointless porn is in comparison. He's sorry he messed my head up so much. He told me he was very happy with me and his life and when I got sick he honestlycouldn't cope. He had no one to talk to as he wanted to be my hero who took care of me. He said in reality he just kept thinking I wouldn't be there and he panicked, I'm the one who fixes everything , I'm the one he talks to, I'm the only reason to not push self destruct. If I died what did his job matter? So he risked his job to look at porn and blank it out. He assured me that had not messed up for a year before this had no reason to lie now and told me he never expected his addiction to take over so quickly. He said he can't be trusted with any computers and would feel happy if I'd agree to put stronger software on his pc. But I can't take his phone away he will loose his job! He need to work evenings and his phone lets him see his email. He told me he'd call IT and see if he could some how have his Google app blocked.
    He has a journey to go on. He told me he hoped my own won't take me to far from him.

    That's how we left it for now.
     
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  14. runningupthathill

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    Ps sorry for my typos , I'm still a zombie
     
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    It's very evident that he cares deeply about you and is scared shitless of losing you. I wish you the absolute best in recovering from your illness runningupthathill. I hope that your husband does well in his battle to beat his addiction, I think that will make a world of difference in your decision to keep him in your future. I understand the whole bedroom situation a lot better now too after your explanation of it. Sorry for the brevity, I am pretty sleepy but I wanted to read your post and respond a bit. Best of luck with everything, I'll definitely be keeping up with you :)
     
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    thanks :) I'm going to make a new post asking for more advice about current situation.
     
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    Sounds like he's very weak and not committed to stop PMO. There's no excuse to jerk off in your child's room.
    I'm sorry. Him saying he will kill himself if you leave is crap too. Weak people.
    He needs a wake up call. You've beat yourself up for 13 years catering to this man.
    Be happy. If he's that worried about losing you he would stop. People are doing it every day.
     
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    Just leave him and enjoy the life you wanted and deserved. How much you've suffered for this leech, and how much you'll continue to suffer. That's the thing about women, they cling on even if it means self destruction. When there are 10x better men out there that they are capable of attracting. Sorry to be blunt, NoFap makes me bluntly honest.
     
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    Remember how he became really nice when you left him? There's your answer
     
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    Nobody can ever make u be: blunt, loving, carring, honest, supportive, angry, hateful..... without u agreeing at some level to become like that. We all always become what we become with our own permission. We are never victims of external circumstances. We always have a choice to become more caring, more loving, more suportive, more honest, more....

    And honesty is good. No need to applogise for it. If we always were honest this world and humanity would heal much faster.
     
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