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How to recover from betrayal?

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by dlala, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. dlala

    dlala New Fapstronaut

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    I need advice!!
    My boyfriend is brand new to NoFap (just today). He's been struggling with excessive PMO for months. Well, really, I've been struggling. It's been only in the past week that I think he really understands how much and how badly it's affected our relationship. Up to this point, every time we fight about it he tells me "it's not that big of a deal" and "you don't see it the way I do" but the way I see it is the actual reality of the situation: that we don't have sex anymore because he's getting his fix from his hand and I'm left feeling inadequate and unattractive and ultimately just not enough (oh, and horny!!!!). My self confidence has PLUMMETED. I feel insecure and unsure of myself where before all of this happened I was a happy, confident woman.
    We've had conversations where legitimate progress has been made, or so I thought, but wrapped up in this whole mess is a lot of lying and betrayal. The trust in our relationship is entirely nonexistent at this point. He can't even bear me being in the same room as his phone when he's not there, I guess for fear of me finding something. And I struggle to believe his promises.
    I am in LOVE with this man. I could not bear to be without him. I have told him this countless times, but until today it has seemed that watching porn takes precedence over our relationship. He does not admit to "addiction," although he does agree that he has a "problem" and he wants to be a better man, a better boyfriend, and get our relationship back on track.
    My biggest issue is, I have become obsessive. I am so obsessed with finding evidence of his betrayal that I have changed my work schedule to be home before he is every day, I have snooped through his phone, I've probed him with questions, I am in a constant panic about what he might be doing to the point where I've had to leave work early from making myself physically sick. If he doesn't respond to me within 10 minutes I automatically assume the worst. And the worst part about all of this is that I'm not wrong. When I think he's done something wrong, 9 times out of 10, he has. I believe the 10th time he's just hidden it well. But I feel so horrible. I am constantly stressed and anxious. I feel like I can't focus on my own life because all I can think about is how he will betray me next. This level of distrust is something I have never ever felt before and I have never ever acted this way before. I know it is extremely unhealthy for myself and for our relationship especially now that we are trying to move forward via NoFap. I have recently joined a gym to try and occupy my mind with something positive, but I'm still struggling. Has anyone dealt with these unhealthy obsessive thoughts? How did you move on? What did you do to help yourself out of this behavior? Is it unreasonable to think that he could really change? Is it masochistic to stay with a man who has repeatedly lied and betrayed me? Is there coming back from this? And HOW? Even if he successfully completes 90 days of NoFap and really tackles his addiction, how do we build the trust in our relationship again? How do I know he's being honest with me about his progress? I know it's a personal journey but we are a team, a couple, and our relationship his been badly affected by his PMO addiction, so I think I deserve to know how it's going. Any help or positive feedback would be so appreciated. I am feeling very low and angry and sad.
     
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  2. i_wanna_get_better1

    i_wanna_get_better1 Fapstronaut

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    Discovering your SO has a porn/sex addiction is very traumatic. It is a major betrayal in a relationship and causes a tremendous amount of mental/emotional stress. It absolutely destroys trust in a way that makes it very difficult to restore. You have every right to feel violated, angry, betrayed, or numb. After the discovery is made the mind seeks to find safety and security and that means withdrawing trust. It is a natural process. Restoring that trust means you have to take an emotional risk of being hurt again and that takes a lot of time before that can happen. In the absence of information the mind will obsess over the issue and compel you to seek out answers. The information you discover (good or bad) makes you feel more in control but never satisfies the obsession. The mind can obsessively seek stability, security, and safety and after a betrayal the mind is desperate to feel that way.

    One of the major ways an addict can begin to restore trust with their spouse is to show concrete evidence that things are changing for the better. Even though the addict is going through their own withdrawal symptoms there should still be a change in their personality. They should be more humble, more appreciative, less secretive, more honest, and more transparent. They should be taking steps like going to a counselor, getting an Accountability Partner, and starting a journal. They need to start changing their routines and behaviors - not being alone, not taking devices into the bathroom, or not staying up late or getting up early. Their communication should increase - they need to talk about what they're learning, what they've discovered about themselves, asking how they have hurt you, apologizing, and trying to make amends.

    If someone is training to run a marathon then you would see actions that show he's training. It's impossible to train in secret. A person who is in recovery needs to change the way they think, feel, and behave. It is something that needs to be worked on every day. Those exercises are not secret. The changes are not invisible.

    A long time addict starts to lose their humanity. They are selfish and inwardly focused. They are a slave to their addiction. Part of recovery is about reclaiming their humanity. As a result they would start to show more empathy, compassion, thoughtfulness, and connects easier with others. Those are qualities that should be evident to you and you should be the first one to see those changes.

    My wife sees the addict as the 'old me' and she can hate and blame and loath that person. Since I stopped my wife sees me as the 'new me' and that is someone she can trust and love. As long as I act like the new me then my wife feels safe but when I do something selfish that reminds her of the old me then she gets nervous.

    There are plenty of books that talk about restoring trust after a betrayal but mostly they talk about infidelity. In a way porn addiction is a form of infidelity. You might benefit from one of those books. 'I love you, but I don't trust you' by Mira Kirshenbaum was one book that I found interesting.

    Even though the discovery is recent, the damage has been occurring for many years. Seeing a couples therapist or seeing one on your own might benefit you. Working together with a therapist and going through the recovery steps together can give you something to bond over.

    I hope this gives you some things to think about and try.
     
  3. fuzzywaz

    fuzzywaz Fapstronaut

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    I can completely relate dlala. I just made this post last night in the SO support group(you should consider joining it if you haven't yet): "How do you stop the obsessive thinking about it. I feel like it is on my mind almost every hour that I'm awake. I feel like I am devoting so much time and energy to wondering about what he watched, and how he felt about those women. I asked him tonight about how often he thought about "other things", and what or who exactly, when we were having sex. He doesn't want to talk about it really, he says he doesn't see how it would be helpful. I keep pushing and pushing to hear more, like I just want to know if the pain of hearing it, from him- exactly what it was, is worse than the pain of imagining what it means..... I have never fantasied during actual sex, only in masturbation. He said he hasn't fantasied during sex since he's been clean, so about 45 days. I really don't know if I believe him. He said it was about half the time maybe, says he doesn't really remember. I ask if it has been in the last five years since I had the kids, or if it was happening before that. He says he doesn't remember. "So what? You just close your eyes and block me out, think of someone else and imagine it's their pussy you're fucking? Like who? People you know or celebrities or porn stars or what" He doesn't see how talking about this is helpful. He doesn't want to talk about it before bed. He said though sometimes he would have to think of other, non sexual stuff so he didn't cum too soon with me. I think this is suppose to be a compliment. "So you mean the other times you were fantasizing in order to be ABLE to cum?!" I ask. He says that's not what he meant. I don't think I will be able to get over this."
    I keep going back and forth between the obsessive hamster wheel of thoughts and being completely numb. I haven't even be able to cry about it lately, which sucks, because having a good cry is something I feel has always been very healthy and cathartic for me. Sometimes I wish I could just leave and get away to be safe and protect myself from being hurt again...:(
     
  4. dlala

    dlala New Fapstronaut

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    Thank you so much for the feedback. You've definitely given me a lot to think about and to talk about with my partner as he makes this transition. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience and for the supportive words!
     
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  5. dlala

    dlala New Fapstronaut

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    I'm sorry to hear you're going through this also. I did ask for an invite to that group but I haven't been accepted yet. I can relate to a lot of the feelings you're talking about here. I expect this will be a very tough road ... And it's only Day 1 for us :(
     

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