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How many chances?

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by CastleBlack, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. CastleBlack

    CastleBlack Fapstronaut

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    I am so frustrated. My husband is addicted to porn and soliciting for gay sex on Craigslist. He posts as a crossdresser/sissy wanting to meet up for sex, offers to host or meet in the car, and trades pics. The first time I found out about it was 11 YEARS ago! He relapses every time, despite all his protestations that he doesn't actually like it or any changes we make (such as moving to a rural area where he said he would be far less tempted/capable. He CLAIMS that in all this time he has never actually met any of the men, except one time many years ago now and he said they only had a couple beers at a bar, nothing else. He has relapsed after getting married (it was of course a stipulation), while I was pregnant with out first child, when our child was a year old and now again when I am pregnant with our second. Every time he gets sneakier and better at hiding it. I often go without looking at his phone because I'm just so tired of finding it and I basically just assume it's going on. Last night I found a hidden email account and accessed the associated CL account with it, both included activity dating back to June of last year, with posts/emails after we moved, while we were attempting to conceive and on my birthday. He has given out our cross streets on multiple occasions but I have never seen our address or his phone # given out. He says the thrill is all in the chase and that he has no desire to actually act out the fantasy. Am I just the world's biggest sucker for sticking around? Is it legitimately possible that he's not meeting anyone? I wish I had left a long time ago but now I don't know how I could survive with two kids on one salary. He says that "everything he does, he does for me" but that just feels like the biggest lie. I don't know what to do anymore
     
  2. Numb

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    I'm sorry you are going through this. Don't beat yourself up over it. You are not a sucker for sticking around. But you need to make boundaries and stick to them. He won't stop until he wants to or hits rock bottom and it sounds like he isn't there yet. To me it wouldn't matter if he met up with others or not. He's putting the effort into it and giving strangers your street. You are suffering because of his behavior and he could be putting his family in danger. Have you been to counseling? Either together or a part?
     
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  3. CastleBlack

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    We went to two couple's therapy sessions the last time it happened, I think April of 2016, but we had a hard time getting someone to watch our daughter and never followed up. I have asked him about it since then and he claimed sobriety. Obviously that was not true. He lies and lies until he knows I've seen stuff so I never know when he's actually being truthful.
     
  4. Numb

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    That is how my BF was. He'd lie till I had proof. Every few years or so for 15 years. But this last time I can see changes and believe he is trying to change his behaviors. I don't know what did it this time. No matter the promises they won't change til they are ready, you just have to decide how much more you can take. And having kids in the mix makes it that much harder, I'm sure.
     
  5. Wade W. Wilson

    Wade W. Wilson Fapstronaut

    I am so sorry to hear what you going through. My wife and I are in the similar situation, to be exact my wife in the similar situation as you. I've been doing PM for so long it's just became a part of me, and for many years I lied and snuck around. First time she caught me right after our first daughter was born. It was a big hit for her, but she told what will she do. She just had a baby and didn't want to a single mom, so she gave me a chance and u stopped for a while. I'm not sure exactly how long passes till I started it again. When she caught me first time I was watching P on my phone and I knew she can find that so when I started agian I was looking for new ways to watch P. So I did find, where we live we have these P stores and they have private both. So I start going there every chance I got. I started to falling in again, pretty bad. Started to plan, if I'll drive my wife to work I can stop by and PM. Unfortunately it didn't stop there, I went further. I didn't not have an affair with any one, but I've deffenatly hit rock bottom. I'm not comfortable to go in details what I did, my wife know I had a full disclosure with her. Second time she caught me in thus past september, she was doing something on my phone, I never really hid my phone from her, I just thought what I was doing was hidden. So, when she was on my phone, after the update app that I used to watch P pops up and she sees what I was watching. She confirmed me and I denied, she showed me what she found and there was nothing I can say. She gives me another chance and tells me if I relaps all she wants is the truth. Of course only on few month she catches me again. This time she said that we done, no more chances. We will stay together till our eldest goes to night school, but that's it. She sent me thus site and said that I can do what ever I want with this and I did. I went on it the next day, started the journal, watching videos and reading articles. I talk to poeple, and started to talk to her. In the past I tried on my on and failed, also our connection got worse, because my action and lack of affection for she build a wall between us. Now this wall is shacking. I want to change and doing everything I can. @Numb is right till he wants to change himself nothing can be done. My connection and intimacy with my wife if at the best right now, and I know I'm still in the early stage of my recovery, but I'm doing everything I can and utilizing the tools on those site. I've never so honest with my wife and she stated to open up to me, she told me stuff that she's been keeping inside for many years.
    It is possible, but he gotta want to and it's a battle. For me and I'm sure for every PA who on this path can say that recovery is the every day battle.
    I wish you luck and stay strong.
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2018
  6. That's so tough Castle Black - My heart goes out to you.
    Regardless whether you keep forgiving him or not, please don't try for a baby now, not at this point. It would make things so much more difficult for you if you decide you're worth more than being lied to constantly, and walk away. First thing I did was take my engagement ring off. I'm not committing to anyone who prefers porn/self-gratification instead of me, a real woman.
    Sending peace n hugs X
     
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  7. CastleBlack

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    Thanks TinaK. I am not wearing my wedding ring. Unfortunately though we already conceived and so far I have a very healthy baby that's due the first week of June. I've decided to give it ONE LAST CHANCE. I told him I don't care what the situation is, if he relapses again I am 100% done. It is really only because I'm pregnant that I'm allowing this one more time. That and he has agreed that he needs help and can't do it on his own. He also finally came to the realization that all porn will have to go. It's always just been the CL ads and emails that he's said he will stop in the past but watching porn opens the gate/induces the urges for them and he sees that now. At this point he just needs to decide what sort of help he wants/needs and we will go from there...
     
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  8. Ahhh - my apologies for making that assumption but congratulations! I hope the pregnancy is apart from this, going smoothly.
    Of course, it does change things as leaving is not that simple in this situation. But I don't think that means it's hopeless either. If he's looking at it and talking about it, that's already a good start. Many PAs don't even know they have a problem especially if they're single (they don't have to worry about performing in bed and sexual gratification is something they can get on a 10 mins workbreak, with a hand and a phone). My PA was happy doing this obsessively when single but after he got with me...then the problems started.
    Is your PA showing signs of trying to get better? Not just saying "sorry" (I've heard that again and again) but actually going out of his way to find out about his condition, how it affects you and what he needs to do to get better? I find that's the key. If he is, that's a great sign of wanting recovery.
    Whatever you decide, please keep posting. I ask this for selfish reasons - I get so much out of reading SOs posts - I'm finally not alone! As you know, it's not something to raise around a family dinner table. Even my friends don't know - it's so humiliating to think I'm that repulsive, he preferred an air-brushed, nasty fantasy.
    You're right in that all the porn/classified etc has to go. When we learn about how the brain responds to this stimuli, we can see how relapse happens. I wish I could make this better for you, especially as you're carrying a baby now. Please put yourself and the baby first and protect yourself - this is a very stressful experience for those of us who aren't pregnant so you need to be extra vigilant of your stress levels. That doesn't mean leaving him but maybe having a solid, plan B so (God forbid), the worst does happen, you've got somewhere in mind where you can raise your children in a safe, loving and protective environment.
    Sending extra hugs for the baby too X
     

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