How Can I Want to Quit Smoking

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by logical_chaos, Dec 8, 2018.

  1. logical_chaos

    logical_chaos Fapstronaut

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    So I've been a smoker for about 10 years now and although I may have use to think that I couldn't quit, I know now that I don't really want to. It's strange to me because I want to quit (because of benefits like not having it control my routines), but at the same time I don't because I enjoy it.
    I feel like I need a much better reason than just the simple "fear factor" approach to actually want to quit. I'm not bothered by the fact that I'm slowly killing myself because I have existential depression. I can't really see any kind of real point to life. We're all going to die anyways so what does it matter if I die sooner?
    Maybe if I could somehow concentrate more on my quality of life instead of the quantity, I could see a good enough reason to want to quit?
    The only real way I can see, is to understand how it would impede my ability to live out some kind of purpose in life as a smoker (needing to be alive as apposed to just wanting to be.)
    Any thoughts, ideas, or opinions any of you have would be helpful. Thanks!
     
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  2. IAmLegion

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    We can tell you how to stop smoking.

    We can tell you why smoking is bad for you.

    We can tell you what smoking does to your body.

    But NOBODY can teach you how to want something.
     
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  3. PghGuy

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    I quit through vaping. It doesn't take away the addiction to nicotine but it does take all of the nasty chemicals that you are inhaling into your body out of the picture. I felt complete changes in my body in 1 week of stopping cigarettes and that was enough for me to never want a cigarette again.
     
  4. logical_chaos

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    Yeah maybe I should just stick to the vape. It's not good because I'm putting something into my lungs that isn't oxygen, but it is a lot better than cigs. This way I can still enjoy it without doing nearly as much damage.
     
  5. Dizzy Lotus

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  6. j0rdi3

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    I don't get it. I never got how people got into smoking cigarettes. There's not even really a high that you get out of it apart from the first couple times when you get light headed and feel a little buzz. I've smoked plenty of my cigs in my life but I could never develop the habit. I even tried one week to get addicted (which sounds very stupid I know). I personally don't understand how anyone gets hooked on smoking tobacco. weed is a little more understandable as it has a more interesting high associated with it.
     
  7. BestVersionToday

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    Easy bud, switch to vaping, it is so much more enjoyable!

    If you get onto a good flavour you're good man. I got the 3mg Nicotine just so I wouldn't crave but tell you the truth you don't need nicotine. I have 4 10mg bottles, when that is done I'm dropping the nicotine because that keeps you addicted. After that I just get flavour to enjoy.

    I have an Innokin EZ Watt vape, it has 3 heat levels.
    I had the Innokin Endura T22 before that, it was promoted as a good beginners vape but it stopped working, got a refund and bought the EZ Watt as its the same price and better. I recommend the EZ Watt on the middle setting. It's a better vape.

    I got my e-juice otherwise known as e-liquid from NZ from a site called vapoaustralia which is legal to import Nicotine into Australia but you wont find any sellers in Australia.

    - Turkish tobacco flavour is so nice, better than any tobacco
    - Traditional tobacco is also very good
    - Choc Mint however has now become my favourite. It's like a chock mint biscuit, its great, I like it more than the Turkish tobacco now

    Some of the fruit flavours I did not like so much. I recommend getting 3-5 flavours of 5mg to test. I got 3 flavours and luckily made the right decisions based on reviews. I had another 3 flavours from this old shitty vape I had and gave up on. There is a Chock Mint in a e-shisha brand that I still have 2.5ml left and Im saving that for a special occasion, its amazing!

    But you wanna finish up on your smokes because you may still want a normal ciggarete if you have it on hand, the brain will want it. But if you don't have any you wont need a smoke. I have not bought cigarettes in 2-3 weeks but admittedly I have had some smokes. So what. I'm done with smoking, I will never buy smokes again, and I will probably always have a vape on hand. Just be warned that it can be so enjoyable that you can actually sit there and chain smoke for like half an hour. You have to time yourself to not go overboard. I hear if you get a low Nicotine you want more but I find its enjoyable that's why. I'm actually finding I no longer use it frequently. At the start I did but not no more :). I just realized it this second and it's pleasing to know. I usually have a coffee and vape, that lasts the whole coffee which doesn't take me long, I usually have some longer sessions but infrequent. I mostly enjoy using it in the house, you can even use it with windows closed and it doesn't stick. You have one smoke inside with windows open and you will stink the house out for a long time. Not the case with vaping. Favorite is in a reclined position on the coach and sometimes even laying down watching TV. I like to see the bigger vape clouds which the EZ Watt provides me with but it does have a higher air flow than the Endura, Im not sure if I liked the Endura more but there is a lot to learn in the world of vapes and that's why the first is a bigginer vape and the EZ Watt is meant to be a step up but it's bullshit, you can buy it as a first no problems. They say don't get the advanced ones as some do because they want the massive clouds. I will update myself again, I want even bigger clouds but I don't know man, at higher wattage I think it will hurt my lungs. The EZ Watt has a 30-35 watt setting and I find its a bit too much so considering a vape that does 80 watts sounds like over kill and pain. Will see, I gotta look into it.
     
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  8. ClaritySeeker

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    1. Waste of money, calculate the yearly cost of your habit and let us know. Be honest please
    2. You won't be able to run as much or as far as someone who doesn't smoke
    3. You will smell nasty and attract people who like that nasty smell into your life. You'll never be able to be with someone else who cares about their health and would be a good mother
    4. If you ever have kids, it's a horrible example for them and unhealthy for them
    5. Eventually causes ED, not PIED but TIED
    6. It's another addiction and the fact that you're on this site means you're probably already a PA. Why would you want to be a nicotine addict as well?
    7. Your quality of life will be less
    8. Injuries will heal more slowly
    9. You are more likely to get the common cold or pneumonia. If you get the flu, it will be more severe.
    10. Short term and long term risk of death. Long term is slow and tortuous, you'll wish it's fast. You'll eventually get short of breath walking a couple steps if you get lung diseases from smoking. Go to a hospital and see someone with lung cancer or even just COPD
    11. Other cancers are possible too, like mouth, bladder, etc...

    Are those enough reasons?
     
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  9. logical_chaos

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    Thanks guys this was very helpful! I used the calculator to find it would be about $4,000 a year spent on cigs. I was struggling to find reasons to quit, but I actually went snowmobiling for the first time today (my sisters bf took me and her just a bit ago) and I feel so good now! I'll just stick to my vape from now on and try to get off the nicotine containing juice. I think I'm just an adrenaline junkie and I'm bored with my life.
     
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  10. logical_chaos

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    It's mostly a psychological thing, like most addictions. It acts as a crutch to dealing with stress, boredom, lack of routines, etc.
     
  11. Jason_Tesla_19

    Jason_Tesla_19 Fapstronaut

    As a former nicotine fiend who hasn't had any tobacco or nicotine in about 2.5 years, I sometimes still get occasional cravings. They might never totally go away.

    If you have depression, you may very well be self-medicating. Talk to your doctor about the depression and tobacco use, and bupropion may work for you. Also, social connection helps with addiction (as long as you're not connecting with addicts!).

    The good news is physiological dependency doesn't take too long to overcome. Psychological dependency is harder, and the brain slowly heals the neurological dependency with neuroplasticity. The first three weeks are the hardest, and then it gets easier.

    Cold turkey is generally the easiest way! Yes, the easiest. Trying to wean yourself with nicotine replacement just helps feed the addiction and prolongs the pain. It's like trying to slowly peel a bandage, or rip it quickly. Nicotine replacement is much healthier than smoking, though! Vaping or smokeless tobacco is harm reduction (not "safe", but helps mitigate risks).
     
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  12. happy camper

    happy camper Fapstronaut

    I believe everything in life has a best-by date. Whenever something comes into your life, it comes for a reason. Whether it be for your personal enjoyment or for your personal growth. The former provides instant gratification and its very easy to lose yourself by over-indulging in whatever habits they are (cigs, porn, pot, etc). The latter comes into your life to push you out of your comfort zone and encourages you to evolve as an individual or as a soul (if you believe in it). It could come to your as an intuitive feeling or as a serendipitous encounter with somebody who literally takes the words out of your mind and utters them to you (this has personally happened to me and i took it as a sign from the universe i could not ignore) or by way of happenstance.

    HOWEVER, what you choose to do when those occurrences pop up in your life are entirely up to you. Knowing your "WHY" imo is the most important thing. If you can keep your list of whys close to your mind and even closer to your heart, you give yourself a fighting chance. There is always hope! Make the right choices and watch the magic unfold.
     
  13. Woodcutter74

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    I quit because it made me save lots money
    I quit because it made me more attractive to women
    I quit because of will power and to better myself
    I quit because I could not stand the stench I was producing
    I quit because it was harming my dogs health
    I quit because I did want to be a slave to nicotine and the tobacco industry
    I quit because I cared about the lives I was endangering
    I quit seventeen years ago and it was one my proudest accomplishments in my life.
     
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  14. hollyman

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    I quit smoking after i realise some changed in my body, like black lips, heavy breath and bad smell comin from my body (cigaretes smell)

    and now i have a younger body and face compared to my friend who have same age as mine ( many people told that to me)

    sure we will die anyway, but i dont want to die in pain because of smoking or live with a frigid hole in my body,


    Let fate that god made, decide where or when im gona die,,, for now i will live my life to the fullest (sory for bad english)
     
  15. VeganRights

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    Chewing tobacco saved my life guys :).
     
  16. LOSEmyselftoSAVEmyself

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    logical_chaos, I used to smoke for about 20 years.

    There is a guaranteed way to quit smoking permanently.

    It's called the 12 step program. It's used in AA.

    It works if you work it.
     
  17. PJT

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    I've gotten into boxing recently and that is making me stop the smoking for the most part. It messes up my ability to perform literally and I like that more than I like what smoking can offer me. Find something to do where smoking directly contradicts what you are trying to do. Or rather listen to the other poster a 12 step program can fix this.
     
  18. ClaritySeeker

    ClaritySeeker Fapstronaut

    Hopefully you're still not using chewing tobacco because that stuff can still cause cancer :(
     
  19. letter

    letter Distinguished Fapstronaut

    If you want a brutal but effective shortcut, I'd recommend you take cold showers only. Check with your doctor first just to be sure it is safe for you, because sudden extreme cold temperatures on the body (like near freezing water) can restrict the blood vessels so suddenly that heart attacks are possible.

    Unless you know your body can handle it, check with your doctor. It truly is not for the faint of heart.

    But the effects you gain from it will go a LONG way in bolstering your efforts in breaking through this addiction. Because, for a lack of time to type out all the benefits and how they work, I'll just metaphorize it as it being a cold shower, not only for the body but for the soul and the spirit. When you learn to embrace the challenge of trying to enjoy this cold embrace, you begin to build incredible inner resilience. Not only that, you begin to gain real power over your habits. It is like doing weight-lifting with your ability to resist...which is passed along to resisting urges. It is like writing upon yourself, in deep levels, "this is but a passing pain."

    And then there's the physical benefits! Improved lymphatic system circulation grants improved resistance to sickness & infection. It helps maintain good skin tone, through some kind of action in the follicles...it may even help men not lose their hair as fast.

    If you can find the heart to do it, I highly advise it in the battle against this & many other addictions.
     
  20. LOSEmyselftoSAVEmyself

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    I take a cold shower nearly every day. A cold shower, no matter how cold it is, will not kill somebody.

    What kills a person is to avoid the fear, avoid change and live inside of the comfort zone.

    What kills people is to stare into smart phones all day, sit at desks, and eat junk all of the time.

    Bravery can be dangerous, but life improvement is nil set without risks.
     

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