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HOCD from porn addiction or am I in denial of being gay?

Discussion in 'New to NoFap' started by Corman13, Feb 26, 2017.

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  1. Corman13

    Corman13 Fapstronaut

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    Whats up everyone? I'm a 25 year old male and I've been struggling for the last 6 months or so with intrusive thoughts about men and gay sex. At first I just brushed away the thoughts cause I found them repulsive. The last 2 months have been hell for me. Heres a little background about myself: I 100% felt and thought I was positively straight for all my life. I have had some weird gay things happen between me and my friends but nothing crazy. We would never touch each other or kiss but joke around with gay jokes that would make us laugh. For as long as I can remember I absolutely loved straight porn. Everything about it. The women were always so damn fine and I couldn't help but masterbate to it. I first discovered porn at a early age. I was at a sleep over and my friend, his brother and myself turned on one of those HBO software pornos. Every weekend we were at my house or his house and always managed to turn it back on when our parents went to sleep and we had the tv to ourselves. My porn consumption had started heavy in 8th grade. That was my first time successfully masterbating and it was the best thing I've ever discovered at that age. As time went on I got really into porn. Everyday after school i'd go online and masterbate right away. Of course some days I wouldn't because of all the traffic in my house. In high school myself and a group of friends would always talk about what female pornstars we liked and what sites we had to check out.

    (Sidenote: I've never been in a serious relationship. In high school I had a girl friend my freshman year and we would always talk about how awesome it would be to see each other naked and do thing with each other. Unfortunately, nothing ever happened.)

    Anyways, back to my story of living in hell. My porn consumption has always been strong. I wasn't someone who masterbated multiple times a day, (sometimes I would but I never made a habit out of it) but i definelty did masterbate everyday and look at porn. I was one of my last friends to lose his virginity and was always the lone wolf when it came to dating. I always loved staying home and playing video games. Fast forward a couple years and i'm doing the same thing. Once I felt more comfortable in my skin i started talking to more girls. I went from not getting any girls to getting a decent amount. I've slept with over 10 girls but most the time I couldn't climax. I attributed that to my porn consumption but didn't come to that realization a couple years into my lack of climaxing. Don't get me wrong, Ive climaxed a couple of times but a majority of the time I don't.

    Ok, now onto what has been going on the last 2 years or so. I met this girl at my local bar and at the time I couldn't stop staring at her. I got her number and we hung out for about 3 months but I eventually ended it because it just didn't feel right. We only had sex about 4 times and I only climaxed once with her. But that wasn't why i ended it. So, this pattern repeated for a couple years. I was having sex with random chicks and still masterbating every day. (i wasn't having sex with random chicks everyday haha) For some reason, I started getting these gay thoughts while having sex. Not so much "gay" but I would start thinking of other dudes faces while I was trying to have sex. It was so weird. My friends and I took a trip to Mammoth mountain and we had a fucking CRAZY weekend. I dropped acid and had a devils 3 way with a buddy of mine. Don't worry, We never touched each other. Only the female that was present. But after that i freaked out that I contracted HIV because this chick was dirty as hell and fresh outta jail.. It wasn't my idea to bring her home. I was hammered and just said yes when my buddy asked if i wanted to join. So for the next 3 months i freaked the fuck out. "I HAVE HIV I KNOW IT.. MY PARENTS ARE GONNA HATE ME" These thoughts led to "Fuck it, I know i have it so i'm just gonna sleep with men the rest of my life because I wont be able to have a gf or wife with HIV." (these exact thoughts were repeating in my head everyday.) I feel into a depressed state and barley hung out with my friends for nearly 3 months. During this time these thoughts i was having made me curious one day to check out gay porn... I tried and closed it right away.. couldn't bring myself to do it. Test came back negative on hiv and i was back to my old self. Jerking off to awesome straight porn and trying to bang chicks. As the years went on I got into more extreme straight porn. Gang bang and anal to be exact. And i fell in love with milfs. Any milf i saw on the street i couldn't stop staring.

    Now the last 6 months have been hell. I'm in school and all of a sudden I can't stop thinking about they're good looking or not... It started because my brothers gf said that any Parent (my mom) who had a gay sibling (her brother) is likely to have a gay child if she has 4 or more kids. I have 3 brother. They all started to say it was me. Months went on and the joke that i was gay kept getting brought up. My brother went as far and told some guy who was trying to hook me up with these chicks. He said it in a joking manner but I was so upset. Why would he say that in public? its ok to tease me but I felt so down I hated it. My friends laughed at his joke and now they all have a gay joke to say to me. It's the worse. Last night i told my brother and 2 friends what i am going through and they got upset that I'm confused about my sexuality. They said "you're not gay, even if you are, it doesn't matter..blah blah blah. I felt better after telling them about these crazy intrusive thoughts and that i don't want to self diagnose myself with ochd because i don't want to cover up my denial if its not true. I'm ok with gay people but i don't want to be gay. I started to tell my self "it's ok to be gay, accept it" to make myself feel better because thats what the hocd site said to do. it helped but these thoughts are so gnarly. I'm very into meditation and been doing everyday for 2 years. It changed my life but these thoughts are so heavy. HOW THE HELL DO I KNOW IF I'M IN DENIAL OR NOT. THESE OUR MY THOUGHTS 24/7 FOR THE LAST 2 MONTHS. I CAN BARLEY FOCUS IN SCHOOL. Anything will help me guys. Iv stopped master bating about 3 weeks ago but had a relapse last weekend. I looked up gay porn and started to masterbate to it. didn't really view a whole bunch of it but the thought of gay sex turned me on a little and when i got to the video i fast forward a little bit and by the time that happened my eyes were closed and i was finishing. The next day i tried to do it again but had this have thought about milfs come in and i started to jerk off to milfs. I felt good but i still cant get over these thoughts. I'm about 6 days into nofap and i plan on keeping it going. Any advice guys? I want these thoughts to go away so fucking bad. I'm not sure if i'm repulsed by it or just in denial.....
     
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  2. Corman13

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    Forgot to mention some things... Last time i had sex i lost my erection and couldn't finish. I was about to finish but stopped because i wanted to go longer. Ended up losing my boner and i think that was a big spike for me.
     
  3. hey welcome..
    porn and masturbation addiction, can lead to places completely detached from from our normal sexual tastes.
    that should be indicator of your sexual preferences- you have probably never done that with a guy, right? (couldn't stop staring, but it comes natural for a woman you're attracted to) but because of your masturbation and porn addiction (making it hard to climax, and leading to more and more fantasies detached from your real life tastes... ) and some cruel family jokes ... you start to think 'am i gay'. and you start worry..

    This forum is filled with men who started looking at straight porn and got more and more addicted, looking at things that would have absolutely disgusted them just six months before. That's what porn does and that's why we're rejecting it.

    My advice? Read some journals of successful rebooters, read about the benefits and the changes.
    Take what works for you and make your own program.

    just my opinion but it doesn't sound like you're 'gay'.
     
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  4. D . J .

    D . J . Fapstronaut

    Welcome to NoFap where you are amongst friends who are here to encourage you and not judge you.

    Spend time healing from PMO and then re-evaluate your sexuality.

    What are your current strategies for combating the enemy called PMO?
     
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  5. Corman13

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    Just will power. I know that I can stop master bating if I put my mind to it. And when I do get the urge to do it, it's cause I'm trying to prove to myself that I am straight. I told my other brother and his gf what's going on and they both reassured me that it's all in my head and I'm probably this way because of my porn habit and lack of relationships. But still, I don't want to self diagnose myself and ever since I started to meditate I've been compeletey honest about myself and what's going on with me. It's just these thoughts are so annoying I don't know what to do anymore. I don't enjoy them at all but I can't tell if that's just me in denial. Every story I've read about gay people is that they knew at a early age they were gay but chose to ignore those thoughts. What's your take on it? Have you ever gotten gay thoughts in your head from watching too much porn?
     
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  6. LogicalThomas

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    Hey,
    I'm gay, maybe bi. Also 25. Reading your story I'm pretty sure you're straight. Thinking some male faces are good-looking proves nothing, and I didn't recognize any real sexual attraction in what you've said. Even if you've said you had gay sex I would still say you're straight. To overview, you had an experience where you got freaked out having straight sex. It was that shocking that you got even subsconscious resentment toward straight sex/ porn, and such you turned to gay porn. You had this as your substitute, it was even something new and your body knew what is a purpose of it, so it gave what you asked for. Also, I would describe your situation as fear and not denial.
    Regarding the climax, I woud say you have PMO problem. You're doing it too much. Simple as that.

    You're not gay. I would say you should experiment a bit if you want a proof, but it would bring more possible unnecesary problems, because of many factors here.
     
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  7. Corman13

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    Thank you Thomas, I appreciate the reassurance. Just out of curiosity, what age did you figure that you had attraction towards the same sex and we're you ever in denial about it? Sorry to ask such a heavy question. You don't have to answer if you don't want too.
     
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  8. D . J .

    D . J . Fapstronaut

    I'm gay but it has nothing to do with porn.

    Check out In Case You Didn't Know for strategies and tips to help you along your journey.
     
  9. Corman13

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    For whomever is gay: what was your coming to terms process like? Was it a sudden realization or a thought for a long time before you admitted it?
     
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  10. D . J .

    D . J . Fapstronaut

    It took me many years before coming to terms with it. It was not easy to admit to myself let alone other people.
     
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  11. Corman13

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    But was it a sudden realization or did you know you were aroused by men but chose to ignore it. I've seen guys and said they are very attractive but never got a boner from one of them. I don't know what to do anymore. I feel like a cloud of confusion is in my head and I can't navigate my way out. I've tried to tell myself I'm gay but it doesn't feel right... and when I try to say I'm straight it feels like I'm pressing the issue too much
     
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  12. LogicalThomas

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    Because I don't know what what school system you have and where you live, let me answer in years. But first of all, you must understand it's not black and white.
    After calculations, I can say I noticed an sexual attraction towards boys when I was about 14. I realized that my feelings aren't normal when I was about 16. Then I had a denial phrase. After when I was 19, I personally don't care anymore. It was even harder because I still don't know if I'm bisexual, I never had sex, and I'm still in a closet.

    Let me also answer your other question: realization of sex attraction is a long process. You see, something needs to happen for you to notice your attraction. And most of the time you're not really aware of it until you think about it, or there are too small things that happen so you can't be sure and make assumptions. And denial phrase doesn't look like a denial phrase at all until you're half over it. Even if it was (for me) exactly as you can read about it.

    Also, I completely agree with D.J.
     
  13. D . J .

    D . J . Fapstronaut

    If it doesn't feel right, don't force and try to make it feel right.

    Deal with one thing at a time. First, let's deal with your PMO issue and then revisit your HOCD issue. One may help the other.
     
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    I can't stop thinking about it. It's messing up my focus for school and I'm not sure what to do anymore. I get that I need to let it play out but every coming coming out story has some type of childhood memory of knowing they were different then other kids. For the longest time I've always been attracted to women and then one day my mind gets all twisted. I don't want to look at guys in the face of talk to them... the mind is so fucking powerful that I'm making it my worst enemy instead of my best friend. Fuck this
     
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    I have no interest in being with a man. Wouldn't someone who likes the same sex enjoy these thoughts?
     
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  16. LogicalThomas

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    1. Noone set a switch from "off" on "on" when you explore sexual attraction. It's a process and it doesn't happen in a moment. "Knowing being aroused by men" straight ahead in this situation is like assuming that if a dollar fell out of your wallet, you must have 50 dollars in it. You can make assumption, and if there are no other explanation, you would first ignore it. If this process doesn't happen more or less like it does, there's a big chance for you not to be a human.

    2. I could give you pictures of girls that I find attractive. I could also give you pictures of men that I find attractive. Still, it doesn't mean I feel sexual attraction to any of them. Attraction is not same as sexual attraction. If you're straight it's normal to che

    We can show you the way, but you must make the steps in your head by yourself.
     
  17. Corman13

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    Haha I feel like you just extended your hand and asked me to join the gay side.. sorry but I found that a little funny.

    I feel better getting these things off my chest and my anxiety has lowered. I know that I will still enjoy a women's touch, smell, and love but it's so hard to determine what these thoughts actually are. I don't get aroused by them unless I force myself to think about being with a man. Even then it's hard to get aroused. Its like I had this massive attraction for females my whole life and it has someone deminished. I want to make love to women and have a wife and a loving family one day. And I know that possible to have if your gay too. Even before this semester I was happy to get to school and see if their were any attractive females in my class that I can potentially hang out with. I just hope that when I conquer this Pmo I get back to my old ways
     
  18. D . J .

    D . J . Fapstronaut

    Was porn involved when the switch occurred? What type of porn were you watching when you began to switch attraction?
     
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    The only porn I've been really into was straight. I've never gone more than one day watching gay porn and whenever I did try I would always switch it back to straight porn. Last week I got off to gay porn but it wasn't like it was with straight. I didn't really see them do any penetration cause I closed my eyes right when I was about to finish. But these thoughts have been around for close to a year. At first I was able to brush them off and focus on something else, but they were still there pretty frequently. Now all I think about is me being gay. I've never had this thought even as a kid and well into highschool when people find out what sex they're attracted too. I don't get it
     
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  20. D . J .

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    You are stressing yourself out more than you need to. You aren't being forced into being gay. Your mind isn't turning gay. You are suffering from watching porn where your mind is wanting something stronger than straight porn.

    Work on the PMO issue and you will see the change.
     

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