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Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by emily123help, May 14, 2017.

  1. emily123help

    emily123help Fapstronaut

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    Its now 6 days since he has watched he went from being all lovey and cuddley and showing affection to not looking at me he has still been honest and told me hes really struggling today we decided to take a break from sex also so I think thats a part of the anger now is that he has nothing, how do I help him over this hurdle to maintain his days free from watching.
     
  2. i_wanna_get_better1

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    Being home and being bored makes the detox period very difficult. Maybe you can plan to do things out of the house that will take his mind off his urges. Go to a movie... go to the park... go for a hike... go shopping... go out to eat... go see family... go out on a date. He has to do all the mental work, but you can help with practical things. Have you given him a 'honey-do' list of projects that need work around the house or on the car? Can you cook a meal or dessert together? Watch a movie together? Have you researched a new hobby you guys can start doing together? Can you have company over? Play games together?
     
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  3. emily123help

    emily123help Fapstronaut

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    I have iv giving him so many jobs to do even as far as bringing our daughter to school (something I always do), my car has never looked as good, hes in work today so that will help occupy him, he keeps telling me his struggle and I dont know what to say back other than im proud of him and that when he thinks like that to turn it into seeing the future when we will have our relationship back and our sex life goin to be better, he doesnt see it is what he tells me, im struggling myself I still have some anger over the situation I havent shown it towards him I dont want him to feel any worst.
     
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  4. SweetTransformation

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    Sometimes it may just be a matter of giving him a bit of space. I think he might be going through something we call 'flatline', which are the withdrawal symptoms of abstaining from pornography. Don't be too hard on yourself, he'll come round. Just be there to support him and positively reinforce why he is doing this. Have you thought about marriage counselling?
     
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    Iv suggested it but he doesnt want to as hes not great for talkin especially with someone else other than me, what exactly is flatine, I think if i understand more id be able to cope and help him more, iv ready so much and watched so much in theory I get it but I just cant wrap my head around the way it makes him feel and emotionaly im not connected to the feelings with his addiction the way I see it is that I know its not real they're actors who dont actually have sex like that there just paid to act like they do.
     
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    Flatlining is the feeling people get when they have decided to quit porn. This can range from feeling bored, depressed or even nothing etc. The reason for this is because when people PMO it triggers dopamine, the pleasure centre in brain, to be released and this makes them feel good. The dopamine then dips down and you need even more stimulation to get the same kind of pleasure. We all know that too much of anything can make you sick really so doing this all the time can desensitise you, not just in terms of sex but other areas of your life too.

    We know it is acting but porn is so powerful because it's visual and therefore hard to forget. It also touches on our core desires and fantasies. That's why it's so exciting - everything is just so extra.

    I hope this is helpful.
     
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    Thank you, I think thats why I dont get the feelings he does when he watched it we have both watched in the past as a couple but this was long before I knew he was addicted and after a few mins id tell him turn it off that it did nothing for me I didn see the fantasy side I just thought that poor women or man id say they would be raw after how could they enjoy it, obiously he has diferent feelings towards it and has told me he wanted to do all the things he seen I guess a part of him thinking that its "normal" and always like that is from we starting seeing each other from 18 I was the 3rd girl he had ever slept with and the two before had been just a one night stand on both occasions. We are 7 years together and have had great times in the the bedroom but sometimes weve fought over him wanting to do things that I just thought it was weird or I felt wrong to do it not to say I dont enjoy sex I thought we just had different fantasies or ideas of how we wanted to do certain things im more sensual where as he wanted to jump right into certain things and it left things awkward, but he explained it was all becouse of his addiction and it makes so much more sense to me now about where hed get these random urges to do certain things it wasnt about me and him it was purely him wanting ti act out his fantasies and didn't care about how I felt towards it.
     
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  8. i_wanna_get_better1

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    I feel you are one step away from fulling understanding the addiction part of his problem. He's not merely acting out his fantasies... he is trying to replicate a feeling that was similar to what he feels when he PMOs.

    Addicts use events/images/objects to alter, medicate, sooth, numb, or alter negative feelings. PMO allows an addict to consistently and reliably repeat that feeling over and over again. When an addict is trying something bizarre or strange it is not simply because it feels good physically... it is because he believes that it will make him feel better emotionally. That feeling varies from addict to addict... they may be chasing a high, they may be dulling/numbing a pain, they may be trying to shock themselves out of a depression, or they be trying to relieve anxiety, or they may simply believe it will make them happy.

    This process gives an illusion of satisfaction, but it is fleeting and momentary. Instead of turning to true sources of comfort they turn deeper into their addiction. That is the illness component of this disease. Addict behavior is not logical... it is emotional. Unfortunately it is also selfish and insensitive and hurts the ones they love.
     
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  9. SweetTransformation

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    Wow, Emily - it's so sweet to hear about your love story, keep trying, I'm sure you'll find a solution.
    What you say is true about fantasies coming from porn. They weren't there in the beginning but seeing some things put ideas into our minds. I really feel for you and hearing your story really enforces how bad porn is. How are you coping yourself? Maybe taking some alone time with your man? Have you tried praying?

    What I would say is try not to be too hard on him or yourself. Falling into the PMO trap is something that happens more and more to men and women all the time. At least you know about the problem so can try to fix it. I know it can be frustrating but it's best to look forward to the future, i.e. What you want to achieve.
     
  10. emily123help

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    Thank you, I really do feel that its not recognised enough and should be made more public, I believe that if it was then maby my partner wouldnt haven't keep it a secerate for so long and we wouldn't of had the problem of how he lied and hurt me, I am so proud that hes been so dedicated and proving he wants this for himself and our family, he had two really bad days and asked me to take his phone and anything that he could use to search it, I did but felt guilty at the same time but he asked me to, hes been doin so well and has been so honest about urges and as soon as he thinks that way iv giving him plenty of things to occupy him with, we both agreed not to have sex, but yesterday we lay on in bed talking and he was a different person we both felt so much love for each other something that we hadnt felt in awhile which is clear now why we had been so distant but we couldnt help keeping ourhands of each other, it was like when we first started dateing and he said he didnt have the thoughts of what he usually did before, he also told me he used to masterbate before he thought we would be intamate to "last longer" but again that was how he thought it all should be as he didnt know any difference from porn to reality.
    Im ok myself im feeling better as each day goes by that he hasnt falling of the ladder and im feeling much more happiness and building trust up again with the man I love we both promised each other that when hes ready and feels like hes better we are goin to go away for a weekend just us, im looking forward to it so much.
     
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  11. SweetTransformation

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    Aaaw, I'm glad to hear that your relationship is doing well. I guess quitting PMO really does build up intimacy. I pray that your relationship gets stronger and that you resolve any issues.
    Have a great weekend!
     
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