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HELP! MASTURBATION AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS ON BRAIN

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by John Junior, Mar 28, 2017.

  1. John Junior

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    This post is gonna seem long, but thats because I’ve been dealing with a lot of stuff due to masturbation over the past 9 years, and am looking for ANY insight or help from anyone who has dealt with symptoms similar to mine. To start off, I began masturbating in 7th grade to primarily swimsuit magazines/Victoria’s secret catalogues. Also, Im 21 and still have NEVER had sexual relations with a girl and have barely even kissed one..I originally only jerked off a couple times a week, but from 8th grade-12th grade, I found myself masturbating on average once daily, and began to use computer/ cell phone images of naked girls and youtube videos, along with my usual magazines to get off. (DURING THIS TIME I NEVER WATCHED LEGIT SEX PORN VIDEOS) Throughout this 5 year period, I genuinely enjoyed masturbation, and didn’t have any major issues that I continue to face today. However, once I hit the last few months of my senior year in high school, I began to turn to internet porn in order to attain a more pleasurable masturbation experience, and started to increase my daily PMO reps to 2x a day every day, which lasted for the next 3 years. During this time, I began to feel really “off”, and eventually realized that masturbation may have played a major role in my newfound, unwanted symptoms. For example, I felt the constant lethargy that most people feel after jerking off too much, but also felt an immediate sense of depression after my porn sessions ended. Also, I began getting VERY BAD anxiety after I jerked off, and felt my mind racing when I tried falling asleep. Its hard to explain, but as I tried going to bed, I went through this weird “cycle” where I literally could feel the back of my head almost twitching or pulsating while I simultaneously felt extremely jittery and anxious..I’d doze off and experience weird intrusive thoughts, then feel this sudden “shock” that would wake me up in a panic. This usually happened when I masturbated 3x on that day..maybe its an overload that messed up chemicals or something..(On that note, every time jerk off, since my soph. year of college, the back of my brain feels very weird and I feel as though my cognitive function declines) Also, by the end of my freshmen year in college, I slowly noticed derealization and depersonalization, which I now know derives from anxiety which MAY have been from my porn addiction. Ultimately, bc I literally felt like a crazy heroin addict while on PMO for those 3 years, I decided to turn to nofap…for about 2 years now, Ive been on and off it, and I have tried and failed many times, but eventually completed the 90 day challenge. Even though I actually surpassed the 90 day challenge, I still feel depression and anxiety, although I can’t deny that it has gotten a lot better while sober. My main concern, however, is the back of my brain issue. Even now after I relapsed after 100 days, my brain feels very foggy and fucked up, and I feel like jerking off is literally destroying some specific section of my brain every time. You would think the dopamine receptors would have healed by now, and I would feel how I did in 7th-11th grade when I masturbated (no anxiety/depression/no feeling like a drug addict), but I immediately felt anxious, and my brain began the weird pulsating thing again..idk if not having sex/any intimate relations with a girl for 21 years has anything to do with this or the chemical balances in my brain, but Im very concerned about whether or not jerking off is eroding my brain in some way. Does anyone have any advice for me??? Is it worth seeing a neurologist to figure out the issue, or will he think Im nuts? Most people say that jerking off is a normal habit..I would have agreed with them when I was younger. But, over the past couple of years, I legitimately think that jerking off has permanently messed up some part of my brain. People will say “your brain isn’t fully healed yet”, which I understand, but I feel as though I may have done permanent damage just bc I was addicted for so many years…idk if masturbation caused/doesn't mix well with psychological disorders like depression/anxiety/OCS etc, but a correlation between the 2 seems to exist to me. Im tired of feeling crazy even after successful completing 100 days of nofap!...SORRY FOR THE RANT, BUT PLEASE HELP!
     
  2. Varthix

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    Man, no offense but I thought I was bad... here's the deal man. You're going crazy because when you masturbated, your brain is in flight or fight in mode, it's in total confusion, do you remember that spongebob episode of when they try to get rid of all those papers? Yeah that's your brain rn. normal fappers ( let's say fapped maybe 2-3 times in a week time), 90 days is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to "curing" yourself. Your brain is probably so confused right now, you heal yourself for 90 days then relapse at 100 days, so which is it gonna be? Are you gonna do what you your brain says? Or are you gonna be the change you wanna be? For you, from masturbating to 7th grade to 12th grade and now relapsing, you need a lot of more time to recover. Our penis's are only used for reproducing and not used for sexual pleasure, that's why whoever created us (I'm not here to start an argument or anything) gave us that little pleasure of having sex and impregnant the woman of your dreams but when you over masturbate and do it non- stop then it becomes a habit and you have a different brain chemistry you've been acustom to, these are where all these symptoms come piling up. If you seriously want change you're gonna have to give up masturbation FOREVER... yes forever. You can't keep masturbating and going back to those dopamine levels, they keep causing the symptoms you described. Just wait till sex and I promise it will be better. You have never done permant damage to your brain, your brain is constantly changing and if you stop masturbating you can finally have that mindset of when you did 7th grade. You literally know the problem and if you can't fix it yourself then that's a major problem. Trust me, I was going to go to every doctor, try to take every pill, workout and do all that but I didn't realize that the underlying problem was masturbation. If you get medication, it can make it worse because you're only putting a bandaid over the problems, not realizing that the bandaid can come of and even make the brain problems worse. In conclusion, if you want change, be the change and don't find other solutions just so you can fill the void of silence, you know what the problem is, fix it.
     
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  3. mj48

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    i feel the same. i was molested when i was 9 i tried suicide alot i have deep depression i hired whore for sex alot wasted so much money to the point i cant drink coffee at a cafe anymore
     
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  4. Zigfried

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    I wouldn't panic about having some sort of permanent damage. It just takes time to change your lifestyle and your brain is adjusting too. What about the rest of your health? Do you exercise? Exercising releases dopamine and will make you feel better. Most likely quitting PMO is is only part of the puzzle as to how to feel happy and have energy. Since you sound alarmed by what you are experiencing, I would say talk to a psychologist. And as for still being a virgin, definitely try to start dating and getting some experience - I know it can be intimidating but it will only become more difficult if you put it off. You are young and still have time to mess up! As you get older there will only be more expectation that you know what you are doing. But if you have not yet learned to love, respect, and forgive yourself then work on that first as it is the foundation of a healthy relationship
     
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  5. John Junior

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    Thanks a lot guys...really appreciate the comforting words and knowing that I'm not alone in this dilemma. After realizing how deep a hole I dug myself into bc of chronic masturbation for so many years, I agree that I must completely give it up for a long, long, long, time (years at a time) in order to fully heal and return to my younger, happier self. The only thing is, when I reached day 100, I felt extremely irritable and jumpy bc I didn't have a "release" for so long. I wanted to turn to getting with real girls, but for some reason my confidence/self-esteem continues to remain non-existent, and I'm almost scared to finally have an intimate relationship with a woman for the first time in about 20 years. Idk if I literally rewired my brain into thinking that porn/masturbation is my sexual reality, but bc I've been doing it for so long, the thought of having sex with real women only feels unnatural. Hopefully, this issue heals in time...If you guys have any insight, I'd appreciate it!
     
  6. Varthix

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    Yeah man no problem, I'm here to help, this will heal over time trust me on that and why do you need to have a woman in your life so bad? What I'm doing rn with my life is enjoying it, I'm working out, I'm being social, I'm working, I'm working on myself, I'm waiting for a woman to come to me, a woman that will understand, a woman that can be a best friend towards you. This is just my mindset and when you get more comfortable with her you can be like hey, I'm going through something rn and it's been affecting my life for years and I just need time to myself if she understands then she is a keeper! Keep going bro!
     
  7. 1.avoid sugary foods
    2.get a gym membership(optional but recommended)
    3.eat right
    4.meditate
    5.take cold showers(freezing)
    6.always look up
     
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  8. aingdk11

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    Same here im starting pmo 16year ago now im 30yo i remember how energic.funny smart kid i was back at that day.at least your already have understanding that pmo is dangerous for our mind body and souls bro.keep it up goodluck!
     
  9. John Junior

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    Cold showers seem interesting..What did they do for you? Is there scientific evidence proving that they could help dopamine receptors/endorphins etc., or do they just help "wake you up"
     
  10. I Free I

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  11. just try it when you have a huge urge :D you'll see
     
  12. John Junior

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    Ok, so I have some bad news...I began another streak (only lasted a few days), but then the overwhelming urges to masturbate made me relapse once again. No matter what I do, I cannot overcome the powerful addiction that jerking off brings; I try explaining to myself why the act is bad/how it continuously hurts me, but my brain just blocks the reasons out...I feel as though I black out and don't think rationally, just bc the addiction is so strong. I know that I'm slowly fucking myself up even more, but I just can't control myself. Even when I want to take a cold shower to get my mind off of the addiction, I combat the reasons why I should begin a new streak and not give in to the temptations. Right now I'm borderline hopeless...Does anyone have any more advice? I know the logic seems simple: "Don't jerk off if you want to feel normal again"..However, I feel like there's 100 days of suppressed temptation that has coalesced into something too potent to control. (My last streak was 100 days a couple weeks ago)
     
  13. GG2002

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    Hi,

    I'm so sorry to hear that but you will beat this! I am not a doctor but I want to ask have you been to a psychiatrist? I do think pmo is causing issues for you but reading your post I noticed what I think are obsessive thought patterns depress and serious anxiety. Just the thing about being hyper focused on pain in the back of your head and lots of negative self talk. Pmo may only be part of your problem. Pmo may have become addictive to you because of underlying psychological issues that you were born with and are not your fault. Your brain chemistry may just be off. I'm not sure if you know but the majority of people that are alcoholics or drug addicts have an underlying mental illness that they are trying to self medicate. Ming one time a day even two times a day as a teenager to me is normal for a guy and I should mention I'm a girl. The addicts usually get temporary feel goods from their drug of choice but in the end it causes them more pain. So you probably initially just tried pmo as a curious kid but something in your chemistry or an underlying issue made you get addicted. Just like some people can have a glass of wine and be fine and others become alcoholics. And no for an addict it's not as simple as just stop jerking off. Just reading this I think for you it may not just be about pmo and that's why you are struggling so hard to stop. If you have a family doctor ask for a referral to a psychiatrist. Good luck!
     
  14. Fringe

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    the secret to LIFE is GOALS. once u start on a journey to do something u dont tind to do what hinders you. u wake up every day looking for a way to mak
    the secret to LIFE having GOALS. once you start working towards your GOAL you will stop doin what hinders you. you wake up everyday looking for a way to ma
     
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    Everyone's different so I can't give you an exact reason but I can throw out some general shit.

    When it comes to drugs and shit if they're actively on it then thats an explanation. They're on something so of course they feel great.

    There's also just the moral side of it. Once you are morally against PMO or a drug or whatever then you naturally feel like shit when you fuck up and do them. To be perfectly honest there's a lot of guys on here right now trying to get clean who would be happier right now if they weren't trying to, if they saw nothing wrong with PMO. But long term obviously it'll go wrong.

    Time spent doing this shit also has an effect. The longer you've been doing this the more tolerant your receptors become to it so it takes more to get the same high. So back in the day PMO would reaaaaly satisfy you and kinda have a lasting "feel good" effect on you even as you needed more to reach the high because it was still obtainable. Now that lust just can't be satisfied damn near no matter what you do so that lasting subconscious sorta high doesn't happen and in general your mind isn't satisfied. That's on top of you consciously hating and wanting to stop. Basically a recipe to feel bad.

    There's also just the fact the people might actually feel like shit but they hide it because they're a functioning addict.

    Also just the damage thats been done to your brain. You feel shit after 100 days because thats not some magic "Recovery" time or something. For a lot of use there's no such thing as ever doing this shit in moderation let alone only after 100 days or something. If you just hold on things will get better with time but you might wanna seek professional help if you're really concerned about stuff.

    Im no expert by a long shot so take all that with a grain of salt. The only thing I can guarantee is if you just keep fighting things will get better. Stay strong man!
     
  17. DarkSektur

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    Check my topic on POST ACUTE WITHDRAWAL SYNDROME. You should find many answers there.
     
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  18. Muntasir04

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    Hey. How are you now??
     
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  19. Muntasir04

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    I also had terrible anxiety because of pmo. also had insomnia. so i went to a doctor and he gave me some medicines. those medicines helped me a lot. my anxiety now almost gone. you should also go and get yourself checked by a doctor.
     
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  20. Dagoth-ur

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    PMO blocks out brain's androgen receptors and raises sensitivity of estrogen receptors.

    When T cannot transcribe masculine traits, but a higher level of E can, there will be an array of mental and physical issues.

    Mental: Depression, anxiety, mood swings, brain fog/forgetfulnes, low drive.

    Physical: Increased risk of osteoporosis, higher fat gain and lower lean muscle tissue, potential for hair loss (telogen effluvium - though this would be increased shedding, for it to be permanent there'd need to be an XX gene passed on by the mothers father who had balding, if I remember correctly). Voice pitch and jawline are also generally dictated by T uptake.

    A study with male rats showed it takes 7 days for a good number of AR receptors to return. And prostate cancer patients taking T blockers have greatly reduced quality of life, but if they exercise 6 months after stopping treatment it started to reverse effects.
    Have you tried cardio? This can be an important tool for undoing PMO damage.

    Also being 21 and yet to sleep with someone, you'll understandably be curious, but it's kinda overrated, stay the path and try including exercise if not already. In time your brain's wiring will change! And you will feel very energetic. And I'm sure when the issues caused by PMO start to subside, other things like relationships will fall into place for you.
     
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