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HAVE I TURNED GAY

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Shadow shadow, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. Clean Willy

    Clean Willy Fapstronaut

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    I really do not understand your point of view man.

    You are saying that straight guys are disgusted by the sight of a penis! Really? Why? :confused: Are straight women equally disgusted by boobs and female genitals? :eek: Why should a gender view the bodies of people of the same gender as disgusting. Surely, that is a seriously warped point of view. Maybe you can explain why you said this @hijodelaluna18.
     
  2. hijodelaluna18

    hijodelaluna18 Fapstronaut

    Obviously you will think a womans body is prettier than yours dont you?..and by disgust I meant more homo sex not the penis itself. But yes generally speaking,before PMO turned me into a down low bi I didnt enjoy seeing male genitalia,I was like eeew..I dont know about you but I used to prefer to look at a anything rather than apenis.If you are straight and find penis beautiful good for you.I didnt...that doesnt make me better or worst than you.Until porn made me familiar to it adn I ended liking them.Its proven too much exposure to something makes you at first tolerate it and if its persistent you end up liking it.Think of women who are beaten by an abusive husbandsome of them end up likin it in a twisted way.The brain is complex br
     
  3. Ra's Al Ghul

    Ra's Al Ghul Fapstronaut

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    Welp, traps are male so yep, that's in the gay category if it's male on male. It's not like this is hard algebra.
     
  4. Absolutely not. What we watch isn’t what determines whether we are gay, straight, bisexual or something else along the continuum of human sexuality. The reality is compulsive porn use leads to looking at more and more things we may not have considered before BUT we desire and think we need the intensity of the new. Need that new high to get off. The old/familiar doesn’t do it any more. So we watch all kinds of stuff we never thought we’d watch. In my opinion, for me, all porn is bad. It opens a Pandora’s Box and anything becomes possible. I’m not worried about gay or straight or in between. I’m focused on eradicating PM from my life because it turns me into someone I don’t like.
     
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  5. MasterRoshi

    MasterRoshi Fapstronaut

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    Sounds like you are deep in pint addiction and are currently desensitized.

    I was there 9 months ago. I haven’t looked at porn for 9 months, but I still have the gay mental fantasies, because 20 years of PMO abuse doesn’t get erased over night.

    This is a 1-3 year process to normalize depending on how deep we’ve gone.

    I have made incredible leaps towards normalization so far. But still not back to normal. I think I’ve reversed 5-8 years of my PMO addiction in these 9 months, so I still have more time to go before I can reverse the effects and THEN start to rebuild a new idea of sex.

    If you stop all porn use AND after some abstinence work on reframing your sexual fantasies to train your mind to find different things arousing, you will learn your true sexual tastes.

    I have recently been attempting to change my sexual fantasies from extreme taboos to a very beautiful vanilla romantic sexual experience.

    For example 9 months ago I would fantasize about family members or extreme gay abuse stuff and other taboo stuff . Now if I have those thoughts come to me (randomly) I decide to start fantasizing about something romantic such as laying in a grassy field in the sun next to a girl I’m attractd to and holding a hand or touching her thigh etc...

    Those types of sexualy healthy fantasies wouldn’t turn me on 9 months ago, but now they do and it gives me butterflies in my stomach.
     
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  6. hijodelaluna18

    hijodelaluna18 Fapstronaut

    I can relate.Even though im only 2weeks into nofap I start to feel my old self.The guy that would never have sex with another man. As of today I still have gay craving poppin in to my mind...but Im amazed that Ive been all day in a chat room,talking to girls and many guys talked to me,the window opened and I would just say NO GUYS.And I promise it wasnt a reasoning of conciously thinking..Im doin NoFap or anything,I just didnt felt like meeting a man at all let alone having sex.Two weeks ago I would have asked for their size. Also the flirting with the girls was better.for some reason I naturally knew how to aproach them what to say and they were so into talking to me avoiding other chat guys..Believe or not since I started givin BJ to guys in the downlow girls seemed to ignore me,both in real life and internet. Im sure women can sense that,they cant clearlly say this guy sucks dick but they just dont feel atracted to you. I was the kind of guy that had all the girls crazy before I went that route.I wish I had known before about the feminization effects of PMO.Its been many years I didnt recognice myself in the mirror,doing things that I knew it wasnt really me and not being able to control the cravings. As a type this the only way for me to do a guy now would have been being under alcohol and drugs and the temptation would have to be something very trigering like a 10inch or something.I hope I get to recover myself 100% and not be vulnerable to gay cravings in any situation.I can tell girls feel my testosterone,even in the way i type in a chat.Today one of the girls in the chat said:you seem to be the kind of guy that is so macho and likes to be dominant and care sonly about his own pleasure and has many girls waiting in line...she got a sense of alpha male from me.I think its the confidence that high testosterone leves give you and women feel it
     
  7. Omg, I though it was just me even though I have gone so deep into it (didn't watch 100% gay porn, maybe transgendered person bsdm ); I really felt&thought I lost my sexual identity, until last year I quit masturbating abd watching porn or fanataszing about it for like 58 days, I felt like I really like women! and when I though of the vids that I have watched and getting aroused on it = I felt like "What the hell!! how I was watching this stuff!" I felt so great before until I thought I am invulnerable I got sucked into watching, fantasizing and masturbating again. Wish I never thought of myself like that (it was a trick)
     
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  8. MasterRoshi

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    Yup! That’s why it’s so good to talk about the stuff cuz very quickly we realize we’re not alone and others share our same thoughts, which also means their solutions to fix the problem will also most likely work for us :)
     
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  9. Yea right!!
    Maybe because some of our society are not open to these kind of stuff and We felt like we are a mistake or smth; we choose to bottle it up and save it for ourselves so we felt lonely ( I know I did until now). I personally thought that it's really my nature so there is no such thing as going back, even though when I did it wasn't 100%. Porn messed us up
     
  10. Gdwillpr

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    No you are not. Porn addiction causes us to believe we are gay though. The more strange/extreme the porn the more stimulating it is after watching "regular" straight porn get's boring. This is the short answer. Stay blessed.
     
  11. Gdwillpr

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    No you are not. Porn addiction causes us to believe we are gay though. The more strange/extreme the porn the more stimulating it is after watching "regular" straight porn get's boring. Moving into bi-sexual and gay porn is what happens eventually with this addiction. It destroys our identities and teaches us a lie. NoFap reverses all of this and restores our brains back to health. This is the short answer. Stay blessed.
     
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  12. hijodelaluna18

    hijodelaluna18 Fapstronaut

    You know guys Im almost in tears of happiness cause I started NOFAP hoping to find a solution to my PIED..I started to see cosmetic benefits too but I didnt expect NOFAP would help me with my sexual identity crisis! Man I cant tell you how confusing it has been for a guy that absolutely loves women for all this life and was even a bit homophobic to find myself questioning if I was gay all the time and the selfhate..I understand being gay is not bad and I dont want to hurt anybody I even have ay froends and no probem about it. I just dont want to be one,I didnt want to be one and a side of me still didnt like men.I mean I dont find them atractive at all.So indulging in that oral action in the downow was just lust.I was an addict and needed more. Im not sure I think Im 17 days on NoFap.
    Now I have one more reason to not relapse. I no longer walk in the streets worrying if people think that Im gay. It got to that point you know.Im back to knowing who I am. Now I undestand that giving a BJ to a man in a given mment in time does not make me gay or bisexual.Im just a sex addict ready to do anything for a high. and as long as I keep that addiction under control I can be the man I have always been.I want to believe Ill be able to beat this forever adn not find myself in a dark place again.
     
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  13. It's very common.

    However, with me, due to continued porn use, I developed the urges to act out these specific sexual acts.
    I never had sex, however I have given and received oral. Each and everytime I regretted it. I did it because I couldn't get any sexual gratification from relationships, they were straight edge and wanted stay as "virgins". I've only given oral once and my god I regret it so much.. I couldn't even get hard from receiving and I thought to myself what the hell am i doing?

    Then eventually I realized, I'm addicted to porn and my life is a mess, it's trash and I had no direction. I found self-improvement, I realized I was toxic to myself and to others and I realized that porn amplified all these negative feelings and i used it as an escape.. and then I decided to give NoFap a try.. vuala, those urges go out the window like it's nothing.
     
  14. hijodelaluna18

    hijodelaluna18 Fapstronaut

    I can relate 100% bro best of luck stay strong.I was a young man with a bright future ahead,girls liked me,I had profesional perspectives but ED came in and ruined my self confidence and with women,I became very shy insecure and isolated myself more and more I became lazy.
    Now I feel happy on one side cause Ive found what my real problem is..but on the other side I feel very sad cause Im near 40 and I have thrown the best years of my life to the toilet.No relationships or real sex during the last 8 years,Im just a closeted BJ giver without friends or a job.This is not what I had planned when I was a kid at all..and all because of PMO.
    but better late than never here I am almost 3 weeks of NOFAP
     
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  15. ClaritySeeker

    ClaritySeeker Fapstronaut

    This happened to me too. I was into strap-on porn, but it bothered me that the women were faking it, so it progressed to TS porn. You better stop before you get into sissy porn, I was starting up that path, but luckily found NoFap before it could take a hold on me and I've read some really scary stories on here. Trust me, stop P now!
     
  16. ClaritySeeker

    ClaritySeeker Fapstronaut

    Oh yeah, and @Shadow shadow, you're definitely not gay. It amazed me when I first found out how many others were suffering from this same problem as we are. It's inspiring to see so many others get over this problem. I still find TGs very attractive, but I'm hoping that will go away. I have noticed some sexual improvements, but I still think I'm addicted. Doing my best, hope you are too!
     
  17. hijodelaluna18

    hijodelaluna18 Fapstronaut

    congrats man I feel so lucky I didnt get to trans porn either it was clearly the next step
     
  18. hijodelaluna18

    hijodelaluna18 Fapstronaut

    Be patient,you will feel the difference. Right now Im gonna be home alone for a couple days..and Yes Ive been in a chat room tryin to find a guy to meet and do stuff,but after 25 days of NOFAP I can feel the "calling" is not as desperate as it used to be.Im doing it more like a habit thing but I dont feel the phisical need of a penis like I used to.It used to be like this,my family left and I would start shaking and run to the computer fast trying to find a guy asap. Now if I tell the truth I dont even know why Im looking for it cause I dont crave it like before,theres still that voice saying... you are home alone you cant waist this oportunity to do it...but thats it.Ive become less and less atracted to the idea of sexual contact with a man and I hope one day I dont even consider it an option.I only wish i had never acted on the fantasies cause now those memories will always be in my brain. But for the way Im feeling these 25 days I feel that the fact is we originally were not gay.It was the daily exposure to penis other than ours that led us to that so unless we keep feeding our brain on a regular basis with male genitalia(and that means any kind of porn not just gay or sissy) it will eventually fade away.It has durin these 25 days. i wasnt aware I was reinforcing my sissyfication with all those straight porn movies..
    I want to say this clear cause there may be some newbies that may read this post and think that Porn doesnt make you gay unless you scalate to sissy trans or gay porn. And thats wrong,all I needed was years of straight porn with the hottest girls in them But also with their male partners to awake my curiosity for the male member.
     
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  19. hijodelaluna18

    hijodelaluna18 Fapstronaut

    Man this si word by owrd my story..for real.Its amazing how we all have been through the same exact situation. I didnt enjoy recieving at all and I dont enjoy giving,for me its just the anticipation.But its always the feeling of what are you doing why are oyu doing this? then the shame afterwards, and you realize you dont need it and theres a period of time..for me its months most of the time,or weeks.and then like any drug the cravings come hitting again until you cant control them and do it again ..and same never endin absurd circle.Doin something you dont enjoy at all tht brings stress to your life and lowers your self steem.Only for that dopamine rush.. everytime I come across a straight guy that wants to try I beg them not to cause the oral thing is very adictive because of the taboo going on around it
     

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