Guys who identify as straight but have sexual encounter with males

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  1. 19m

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    ok great !
     
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  2. Freedom_from_PMO

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    Guys, liking the idea of having sex with a transwoman does not makes you bisexual, because your brain sees woman. From essentialist point of view it is gay sex, but your brain is not making philosophical analysis of what is happening. If partner looks like a woman, then it must be a woman.
     
  3. pafon55

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    Could this be truly porn induced ? I am going through something similar. I've never had any same-sex encounters nor do I really plan on having them but the thought that I might have and enjoy it is what is bothering me. Don't get me wrong. For anyone who is into that more power to you brother ! But I just genuinely do not want these thoughts in my head. Another thing is is that these thoughts have been only of recently. Much like what Freedom_from_PMO posted about the facelessness that's exactly what I feel. For me it is all the Power dynamic and it is tearing me apart cause it causes me to feel incredibly weak. I am genuinely not attracted to men and yet the power dynamic about being dominated is what arouses me and causes me terrible anxiety. I am not really interested in heteronormativity or all these new-age terms about sexuality. I just know I didn't used to feel this way and now I do and as a person that has always had issues with confidence to feel as a lesser man is destroying my sanity. When I feel this arousal it simply feels more like a compulsion rather than true attraction like I feel towards my gf or women in general - men are kinda invisible to me. Even when I've watched gay porn I have not noticed the dudes in there. The only thing I've ever noticed is surprise, surprise their junk.
     
  4. Freedom_from_PMO

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    I had a thing for porn that was making me feeling submissive, often in a slightly rapey way, that is at the beginning resistance, then acceptance and enjoyment. I watched lots of wierd porn, I normally don't like becausd of this dynamic like: gender transformation, bestiality, gay porn. And I feel the same that my period of gay desires, that is thankfully gone, was about extreme submission. But in my case sissification was also included also because I had crossdressing fetish and because, that might sound ridiculous, but I discovered I am not the only one that feels that way, I wanted to keep integrity of my heterosexual identity and I preferred adopting identity of a woman and have "heterosexual sex" than to have gay sex. Also the only thing I noticed was penis. The guy was irrelevant.
     
  5. SpringWater

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    Yep stop now..you are on highway to hell..get off at the next exit.

    I also thought about this..almost took this road because it’s not really cheating..not true..but rationalized it..because I was so sexually frustrated at the time( other issues too but that is another story).

    Stop now bro.
     
  6. Freedom_from_PMO

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    I don't know your case, but if this is deeper problem than porn addiction, then you might need a therapist, however if you live in one of more progressive Western Countries most therapists might do not help with overcoming gay desires or this is even banned.
     
  7. pafon55

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    Do you still feel like that ? Is it reversible is my idea. I do not want to have these intrusive thoughts. And also I didn't quite understand what you meant by "that is at the beginning resistance"
     
  8. AngeZarate10

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    maybe the porn, but it's probabilly an hodc.
    instead have sex with a boy, go from a pyscologist.
    he will cured your ocd.
    unless you're always attracted from boys.
    it's only a supposition, because also i had got an ocd.
     
  9. AngeZarate10

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    and mostly you're 36, and your sexual development is marked from more time.
    you was born bisexual or gay, or at maximum you discover your sexual taste in early adolescence.
    if you don't had doubts in that age, it's sure an hocd.
    i advice you only to go from a pyschologist for cure you.
    don't worry :)
     
  10. Freedom_from_PMO

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    Thoughts are gone and I am fine now. My "ego", let say, is not hypersubmissive and is not feminine. It was porn induced.
     
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  11. Freedom_from_PMO

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    Withought those thoughts I feel more like myself and I feel integrity of my personhood.
     
  12. backtolife42

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    I think a lot of people would under the right circumstances at least consider having a same sex encounter (someone mentioned „prison gay“), especially when you are very lonely, which is probably very common with porn addicts, the promise of real sex lets you overlook your partners gender in some cases. Add to it the fact, that it is pretty easy to hook up with another guy, it isnt too surprising that some people act this out.
    I think porn helps conditioning people for this as well, I got into sissy-hypno stuff, and while the message in these videos is, that you should love cock, they mainly use pictures of women, and scenes that would be arousing for any straight guy. I have watched this shit for quite a while, and even got so far, that i actually watched gay porn, but even there I would only watch scenes, where you besically just see a cock going inside a hole, something that you get conditioned to by watching any professionally produced porn.
    Even had some gay encounters, but I couldnt get hard there, the only thing about it, that turned me on about it was degrading myself, and all of them happened in times where I was especially lonely.
    Mabe there is some gayness in me as well, pretty likeley at this point, but I think without my porn addiction, I would probably be in a heterosexual relationship right now, and be perfectly happy with it, without having any urges to search for gay sex.
     
  13. SpringWater

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    More proof it’s porn that is causing this.
     
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  14. AngeZarate10

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    i had an ocd, hocd, but i'm going out from this.
    when you've hocd, you masturbate compulsively to demonstrate that you're not gay. but it's a trap.
     
  15. pafon55

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    Hey there my dude. I am actually genuinely happy to hear that you've recovered. There's hope for all of us I guess :) Keep on the good fight, brothers !
     
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  16. Freedom_from_PMO

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    I was once thinking under what circumstances I might participate in gay sex, it was kind of thought experiment, not compulsive porn induced thoughts. And it was about sexual attraction, not what I would really do, because I would not compromise. I came to conclusion that if I was sure there are no cis women for me then I would go for trans. And when I asked myself under what circumstances would I have sex with a man and feel ok about it I came to conclusion that it would be attractive if no other partner is available and I would be able to adopt female gender identity to keep "heterosexual" identity.

    I think in some extreme situations people are willing to compromise theit identity, and porn mighf them compromise it for more pleasure and arousal.
     
  17. Freedom_from_PMO

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    By the way guys. Am I blind or the user who posted that Contrapoints video deleted it? And I see no responses to his comment and there was some. What a coward.
     
  18. Overcame

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    And then there are males who frowns at this behavior...Opps!..I forgot!...have you ever heard of the term: Bisexual!
     
  19. AngeZarate10

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    if you've always had a desire for women, I don't think you wake up one day and become gay, or bisexual.
    I know because I also had the OCD, especially HOCD.
    I also thought I was gay, crazy, etc.
     
  20. Ugh, I’ve desired all kinds of sexual encounters as a result of restoring to mental erotica. Once I started regularly getting off to yiff-related fantasies, there was no telling what I’d have to think of in order to reach the next climax and release. I’m ashamed to say that I want to have sex with practically everyone in my life at some point. Thankfully, I haven’t gone through with casual sex acts and plan to go the traditional route.
     
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