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Gay sex due to convenience? Warning could be graphic

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by alan, May 28, 2014.

  1. alan

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    I had to look up piv there and came across a feminist page saying PIV was always rape lol, internet... I still fantasise about PIV but the fact it seems impossible for me to pull a girl makes me just resort to men...
     
  2. alan

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    And I know the men don't really care about me but at the same time I'm only there for my fantasy, not because of the man, I'm pretty much just using his body.
     
  3. Balderdash

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    Ah, those feminists . . . :) they're all lunatics in my view, but let's not get into that...

    'Resorting to men' will get your brain used to the idea that that's what sex is and condition you into not being able to do PIV, or at least struggling more with women. It's the same kind of principle as masturbation making it harder to pull girls.

    Just leave your cock in your pants for a few months, then try to pull. Your fantasies might be entirely different, and, based on the evidence accumulated from people's NoFap reports, women will probably be more receptive when you make your suit to them.

    Also, I shouldn't encourage anyone to do this but there are reputedly quite a lot of "cattle market" bars and nightclubs where ALL the women supposedly are desperate to be pulled. Rather than "resorting to men", maybe just resort to extremely horny women?
     
  4. alan

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    Haha yeah probably best not to get into that..

    And yeah I get what you mean, makes sense, it's going to be hard to withdraw from that but I just need to treat it exactly the same as porn.

    I do hope the fantasies go though they don't suit any purpose, I don't exactly enjoy anal, it always feels like you need to shit and it's very time consuming making sure I'm clean and I'm paranoid half the time about if people find out or I get an std or whatever.

    I've never heard of cattle market bars but known me I'd probably have no luck there either, I'm also a bit picky too despite the fact I've resorted to guys
     
  5. Balderdash

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    This is a pretty good example of why to leave fantasies as fantasies: The reality is often not very nice, it seems. Remind yourself about why you don't actually like it next time a fantasy occurs; if you've done the act and don't really like it then make a mental note to leave it behind you. You don't need this anymore.

    Cattle market is just a slang term for a place where super horny girls go to find mates. It's something to consider if you need to "resort to" finding a partner with no strings attached.

    Pickiness may go too. I've started realising that loads of women I just never noticed before NoFap are actually really beautiful!

    Stick with it! You've nothing to lose and everything to gain!
     
  6. alan

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    Yeah I'll try to combat it with what it feels like when I'm actually doing it, it is pretty tough though.

    Ah okay, well I've been to quite a few nightclubs before but I've never pulled and even then my mind gloes kind of blank when it comes to talking to women.

    Hmm now I'm thinking about it I'm not too fussy really, I like most girls on tinder.
     
  7. IGY

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    The thing is Alan, a gay meet up does not have to end up the way it seems to have done for you in the past. It sounds a bit like, wham, bam, thank you man! You can have an extended session of making out and discovering each others' bodies. Mutual masturbation can be very hot, sucking on each others' cocks can be as far as you might want to go. It doesn't have to always be about you bending over and taking it up the arse! The point is that you are there with another flesh and blood person. What label you think you have is irrelevant. If you can enjoy another man's company and body sexually, why not?
     
  8. freedomwarrior

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    Come on guys. A meet up is just porn in three-dimensional instead of porn in two-dimensional. Yes it involves another human being instead of pixals, but a meet up is not what healthy sex is about.
    Let my flak start.
     
  9. alan

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    Hey IGY, I know that and I have done the whole making out thing and it is not as bad as getting fucked in te ass but I'd much rather be making off with a girl and I'm not really interested in the company.
     
  10. mnkeyseemonkeydo0

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    If you get boners for girls, you like girls. If you get wood for dudes, you like dudes. If for both, you play for both teams. I always was physically attracted to dudes ever since I was 12. I had crushes on girls but never really had wood for them. Resetting your fapcycle sounds like the way to go. I'm doing that too, just out of curiosity. Regardless, random hookups are never fulfilling. Base it on who you meet and how you feel about them. As long as you're in love with whomever, you'll enjoy the sex.
     
  11. BossTime

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    Try to stay away from porn and from any sexual activity for a a certain period of time. You will eventually, with good will, heal from homosexuality hopefully ;)
     
  12. IGY

    IGY Guest

    I will assume you mean well, but what you say makes no sense and you also imply that homosexuals need to be "healed".
     
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  13. BossTime

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    I may sound shocking, but I believe that homosexuality is abnormal. That's my opinion, and I respect yours.
     
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  14. alan

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    Thanks, I kind of get what you mean in my case but in general I don't see homosexuality as something that's abnormal ect but I am happy to respect your opinion.
     
  15. BossTime

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    thanks, I'm glad :)
     
  16. FreddyNz

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    This..... I agree with this (though accept many don't). The intro story is so sad and even more sad is how commonly it happens... guys I know who have gone down this path for similar reasons, who eventually, when they break free, feel nothing but shame and regret for their actions ! A "reboot" is the only answer here... then when you're thinking clearly, you get to discover who you truly are and what you want out of life. Then when you know what you want, you're able to apply yourself to achieving the life you dream of and deserve. Too many of us live as victims, blaming society or whoever for our outcome when really it's the choices and actions we took along the way, no matter how small, that lead us to what we become. Just don't become a victim of someone else's choices !
     
  17. Shep

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    I will challenge this belief if it is the last thing I do.

    There is no evidence to support the assertion that homosexuality is abnormal.
     
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  18. freedomwarrior

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    The key word was believe. Beliefs do not require evidence.
     
  19. FreddyNz

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    Well there is nature.... all other life-forms. The obvious requirement of both male and female to reproduce (and yes I know there's the odd exception but certainly the norm requires male/female)... Common sense suggests male-female gentialia fit properly together male-male or female-female just don't quite work. It may be very un-PC to question the legimitacy of homosexuality, but you really have to throw common sense out the window to support it. Having said that, ppl have the right to choose and it's a choice some ppl choose to make..... but YES it certainly is abnormal !
     
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  20. Sham

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    Read up on studies by NARTH. Gay rights protestors flame this group but it's actually legit and they get results. NARTH= National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality

    I thought I was gay but after reading their articles and other testimonials I realised the particular events/feelings of my childhood that probably led me to same sex attraction. Add to this the fact that I think dicks look gross, maybe I'm not gay. It is rather this concept of masculinity that I find attractive because I think I lack masculinity, maybe it is just a psychological thing. You should consider this especially if you are gay who only fantasises about getting bottomed.

    There isn't any good evidence for homosexuality being genetic either. Yes, you can say a combination of genes makes a person more likely to be gay, but in reality that is probably just saying certain personalities are more susceptible to environmental/upbringing factors that could lead them to be gay. e.g. a more shy personality might be more strongly affected by a weak/ detrimental father-son relationship or from bullying by peers. The lack of associating himself with traditional masculine figures and even being rejected by them (as may be the case) could cause the person to crave it in some other form. It may sound abstract because activists have shoved it down your throat that it's a natural thing, but look for NARTH success stories from therapy clients. The reason I chose these examples is because they resonate with my own story and I think with the OP.

    I really don't care if people are gay or not, idgaf what people do. I can't agree that homosexuality is 'natural' though.

    I'm over a month into no PMO now and I feel more confident/masculine. I tried fantasising about sex with a woman the other day and it was decent, I actually got hard. I dont like fantasising though, it was a one off, because it could lead to a reset. I definitely don't want to ever have sex with a dude though.
     
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