From Rebooting to Prostitutes and Strip Clubs

Ichiro · Feb 25, 2017

Nofap is great. More energy, life is more vivid, and you have more confidence...

But when the urges hit, it gets harder. And over time, I relapse time and time again to the point that I end up looking for cop outs.

"I don't want to PMO or MO again because resetting my streak is depressing, but I could see a prostitute or get a lapdance because that wouldn't count as porn because they're real people. I won't have to reset my streak." I would rationalize...

Then its just... I didn't reset my streak but I'm poorer and I hate myself, and maybe I should just quit nofap altogether because its better to PMO than waste my money.

Trying to do NoFap hard mode is like trying to go 0 to 60 in a few seconds. I went from PMOing 70% of the days to flat out nil. So I'm not surprised that I ended up resorting to alternatives.

Again, I'm not saying any of my rationalizations is anyone's fault. Its my own fault. Some people can handle nofap hard mode better, especially the ones who want to get married, and see the long term benefits. But for me, I'm so broken inside when it comes to women that I don't want to get married..

To be honest I'm hitting a low point. I've only been hitting 8 days as streak being the highest. And I'm at the point where I just want to allow MO in my journey and try to do it one step at a time, instead of taking out PMO and MO completely.

To be honest, I don't want to complain, but I've had a person on this forum in a way make fun of me because I didn't have a 30 day streak like him, but to me, its just like bro, you're married, and you get to have sex every week. Us hard moders don't have that at all.

But yeah, I just needed to vent. I want change in my life. I went to the strip club today, and I feel like shit. Thanks for reading.

diddykong · Feb 26, 2017

It sounds like you need to work out your priorities. Why are you doing NoFap? What is your long-term goal(s) in the process. Are you trying for hard mode or normal mode? You sound like you are trying for hard mode and strip clubs and prostitutes are a definite no on hard mode anyway.

Your brain is trying tricks that it know work. The only way to break the cycle is to not give into them and find another way to ride out the urges when they hit.

Even though it's real women, strip clubs in my mind are a definite reset even on normal mode. You are watching them for sexual stimulation and there is no emotional connection, you can't touch them - it's exactly the same as porn in my mind.

Prostitutes you'll have to draw your own line on. If your NoFap goal is to not objectify women as much or to try and develop meaningful relationships then using prostitution is very much not the way to go. It's again pretty similar to porn in that you are using women for your sexual desires. I think prostitution is actually much worse than porn so if I had to do a "lesser of two evils" I'd go for that.

So save your money. Re-establish what's important to you from the process and make realistic coping strategies based on those. I would say that maybe trying to keep MO for now may be helpful for you - if you would go to a prostitute anyway then MO is certainly healthier than that. And don't worry about other people. So what if you haven't got 30 days? It's just a number. Measure your success on your own personal growth and not on someone else arbitrary standards.

Ichiro · Feb 26, 2017

Thank you so much man. I was pretty bummed out but I needed this. I definitely need to look deeper into all of this.

Ichiro · Feb 26, 2017

Really appreciate you bro for this post.

This reply means a lot to me. I saved it on my phone.

diddykong · Feb 26, 2017

Anytime Glad it helped.

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