Flatline during hard mode

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by fizzy89, Mar 26, 2019.

  1. Daxos

    Daxos Fapstronaut

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    Fizzy,

    I don't want to disrespect you, but you are a classic case of someone who is not 100% fully educated in the NoFap sciences :).
    Recovery from porn addiction and porn adaptation takes way longer than just a few weeks or couple of months. Your brain cannot dissolve the years of strengthening the porn response pathways in just a few weeks. Many guys needs months. During these months, a lot of progress is made. Morning wood returns and gets better, PIED symptoms get less and you will get random erections at times, but for most of us, sex is still a hurdle that will only be healed at the end of our journey. Why? Because your brain has to re-learn how to have normal sex instead of wanking to images online. This takes time and a calming approach. Do not stress about it, or your brain will associate stress with sex and you will make things ever harder for yourself.

    You are in a flatline, from what I just read. I am in the same position. I am only on day 6 right now, but I feel no attraction to girls, even though I know I normally would, and I have zero desire for sex or wanking at all. But I know this WILL change. Previous streaks of mine have shown me that. The flatline can take months for some people (note, those are the heavy cases). For me, the seemed to go and come. I had flatlines ranging from 1 week to 1 month. And when you had the 1st flatline, didn't mean it will never happen again. For instance, I once reached day 84 with a streak. I could get around 80-90% hard from fantasizing while touching myself, but I really doubt whether I could've performed right then with a girl. Like I said, the brain needs to re-familiarize itself with a lower stimulus as sex opposed with the high stimulus of internet porn. This takes time, but you will get there
     
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  2. bfdet

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    Hi @Daxos !

    Good stuff in your posting. Healing of body, mind, and soul (spirit if you prefer...) does occur but yep, it does take time. It often seems that healing doesn't happen as fast or as dramatically as we may like. But it does happen, so patience and perseverance are absolutely required.

    One small thing to think about ...

    Perhaps a subtly different view on journeys:

    Healing bodies and minds takes time to un-learn the bad behaviors and re-learn how to be stimulated and excited by healthy interactions. As the noPMO journey continues, healing happens, and it continues to happen even when we experience what may be considered great progress of being "healed". the journey of healing doesn't really ever end, rather, it continues as long as we stay committed and follow the pathway.

    One day at a time is how we all succeed
     
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  3. fizzy89

    fizzy89 Fapstronaut

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    Cheers guys, I appreciate your input!

    On a side note, I think I am out of flatline as I can think only about wanting to have sex lately. It feels really good and kind of "normal" again :)
     
  4. fizzy89

    fizzy89 Fapstronaut

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    Today I achieved my first 90 days without watching porn and resulting m and o! :)
    I had a few setbacks along the way (the most recent one only a week ago) but I am still proud to having achieved my goal of no p!
     
  5. drkarim

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    Any spontsneous erections or increased lipido?
     
  6. bfdet

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    Hi @fizzy89 !

    Good job.

    What will you do now ? You've made a lot of good decisions during the last 90 days, including the one that started your journey. Keep making good decisions.

    one day at a time is how we all succeed.
     
  7. fizzy89

    fizzy89 Fapstronaut

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    Yes! It is definitely improving. My gf is away for a few months and all I can think of lately is having sex with her, it feels really good :)
     
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  8. fizzy89

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    Thanks!

    I will keep going, trying to never ever masturbate again and only having pleasure time with real girls not fake ones on the internet!
     
  9. bfdet

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    Hi @fizzy89 !

    Good. Keep going. Being apart from you gf is undoubtedly difficult. Instead of using electronics for unhealthy activities like PMO, use the technology to keep in touch with your gf. A surprise text or note from you will likely be well received ... especially if its just to check in on how she's doing or to send her an electronic bouquet of flowers !

    Stay well. Stay on course. You know what you need to do, and you know how to do it, so go forward !

    One day at a time is how we all succeed.
     
  10. fizzy89

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    ⚠TRIGGER WARNING!⚠

    I want to tell you the story of my weekend.

    I went to see my gf who is currently away for a few months. This was the first time for 2 weeks that I saw her. During these 2 weeks I experienced a lot of improvements as mentioned in earlier posts of mine: regular morning wood, increased libido and spontaneous erections (although never full on boners).

    I was really looking forward to seeing as well as having sex with her! I was also very confident it would work fine :)

    But it didn't.

    She picked me up from the train station at night and we went to her place immediately. It didn't take long and we were making out. It came to the point when sex was the obvious next step but I couldn't get an erection. In fact, I couldn't get an erection already while making out... In the end it did work though, but only "by accident" as she was on top of me naked and since we never had that position before I was getting quite aroused by that and it work with a kind of half boner. Unfortunately she didn't like this position at all, as it is always very painful for her. So I was feeling bad afterwards because of this.

    Obviously I was also frustrated and confused why I couldn't get a boner in the first place after thinking a lot about having sex with her the days prior to that!

    Next day we went swimming and for some strange reason I had boners regularly. Full on boners when she was on too of me, sex would have been absolutely no problem! But since it was a public swimming pool we had the decency of not moving ahead. Maybe it was the thrill of it, that was getting me aroused?

    Later on that day we tried sex twice at her place, both times no boner at all! Nothing! Just my flabby cock against her vagina. It was awful!!! I could have sunk in shame.

    Next day was even worse... We tried sex several times and it gotten to a point when I was scared of another attempt and succedent failure on my part.

    I am back on my own again and I have not yet recovered from this horrible experience... No libido, no morning wood, no erections... This feels worse than ever before!

    The worst thing though... I could get an erection just fine while we were in a public swimming pool but not when she is naked in a bed in front of me... Does this mean that my gf naked in a bed is "too boring" for my cock? Conditioned by porn?

    I am 100 days porn free but I feel I am back at day one. :(
     

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