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Fasting helps to recover from impotence, mental feebleness and lowered vitality

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Clumsy, Sep 26, 2014.

  1. Clumsy

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    Still there are people getting fat and sick on diets based on fruits, vegetables, wholegrains and lean proteins.

    But beauty, you deserve a nobel prize really, because you know the perfect diet for every person.
     
  2. beauty

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    If it's eaten in moderate, daily portions, and the person lives an active lifestyle, it's not physically possible to gain weight from that. It's a balanced diet.
     
  3. Clumsy

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    It's a common misunderstanding to believe that diet is just about weight. And so is not the case. There are thin people who gets sick from diabetes, heart disease and stroke. There are thin and healthy people that still suffer from digestive problems, who develop cancer.

    It's not all about weight, the food is the building blocks and our fuel, it must be perfect. The longest living people on this planet in the history has been the okinawans, their diet was based entirely on plant foods with only little fish and beef once a year. Does that mean that vegetarianism is the right diet? I don't know. But to say "whole grains, vegetables, fruits, proteins, all that in moderation is fine" is rather arrogance, because I've met so many people eating on those diets without being able to enable hunger control, and they yet remained sick and diseased. The perfect food is the food that does not make you sick, or make you have gas (gas is pathological, like it or not, but if you are in perfect healthy state, with perfect food you wont have gas). It's the type of food that is good for your teeth, stomach, and entire body, makes your sleep refreshing etc.

    And when you're on the perfect diet, you don't develop acne either. Acne is a disease and disease is not a natural part of human life.
     
  4. beauty

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    I'm not following what you mean by, "I've met so many people eating those diets without being able to enable hunger control".

    Moderation: the avoidance of excess or extremes. If you eat what your body requires, give it fuel, replenish with proper vitamins and minerals, all the while getting plenty of physical activity, you will remain healthy. I don't understand how one can become "sick" and "diseased" from a healthy diet. Perhaps an outside antigen may cause an illness or disease, but a healthy, wholesome diet that I explained above will not make one sick. It's just not probable on any level.

    If anything is pure arrogance, it's this, "gas is pathological, like it or not, but if you are in perfect healthy state, with perfect food you wont have gas". Where and when did you read this?

    Gas, in the intestinal tract, forms when bacteria in your colon ferment carbohydrates that aren't digested in your small intestine. Healthy, high-fiber foods are often the reason why one will experience gas.

    I don't understand where you are requiring your information, but it fails to connect A to B for me.
     
  5. Clumsy

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    Yes, on a perfect diet you should be able to eat when hungry until satisfied without getting obesity no matter your genetics.

    And eating too much fiber is not good either, but carbohydrate is the most effective energy source, and for me it's very hard to think why we should not use the best energy source. However, moderation is the key yes, but on a good diet you should not be farting, because that is a sign of improper digestion.

    And we don't have to argue, you've no experience I guess, but look around the internet and you will see the desperate struggle people are in with this whole diet thing. So many have tried to eat both grains and animal foods in moderation without success - and it fails to treat disease.

    I have seen remarkable cases only when the person is eating either,

    a) a strictly vegan diet, low in fat (no vegetable oils, moderate in nuts and avocado) and no dairy

    b) a low carbohydrate diet with lots of fish, chicken, meat and a little vegetables, butter and other high fat dairy included in that

    c) paleo diet with lots of animal foods, fruits, vegetables, nuts and eggs, no grains and starches
     
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    Especially A and B diets. To combine grains with animal foods, and high in fruits and vegetables is actually far from a good diet, it often results in fatal failure.
     
  7. Clumsy

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    And you look probably on wikipedia or official medical statements, but it fails! None knows the perfect diet yet with 100% sureness. We are constantly evolving in the field of medicine, but our medical boards recommends food that are pretty safe to eat.

    I can suggest you to take a look at Vegan promoters, there among Dr. Mcdougall, read the china study, and the studies that arguments against it, and check up the high meat/low carb diet advocates, and the paleo advocates. Follow the food debate, and you've to update your knowledge every day. It's an ongoing process.
     
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    I haven't researched for a perfect diet, I'm just using common sense. Excess fats and sugars will cause obesity, high cholesterol levels and all sorts of other health issues. Like I said before, the perfect diet consists of all the food groups, in healthy, moderate quantities. Those food groups are what the body needs in order to function properly and survive. People make things so complicated with all sorts of diets, but to me it's fairly straightforward.
     
  9. Clumsy

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    And I've personal experience with "balanced diets".

    A woman I lived at when I was a kid was a health advocate. She didn't use tobacco, alcohol, drugs or caffeine. She exercised on a regular basis.

    She ate whole grains, some dairy, meat, fish, nuts, eggs and sweet fruits and vegetables. She was very pale and later developed breast cancer at the age of 40 (she is cured and well now though).

    And she was utterly convinced that she lived right and she was soo surprised that she had cancer so first she couldn't believe it.
     
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    Yes, because you've no experience. You haven't seen all those people living on "balanced diets, full grains and vegetables and fruits and meat and dairy" that are sick and diseased.

    My advice is to stay out of topics you don't master for a bit, and if it was that simple none would need to research in nutrition anymore.
     
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    And what about the studies that says that fruit sugar is metabolized just like refined sugar? Does that mean fruit is unhealthy?
     
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    So let me get this straight you believe by "fasting" you will gain weight? By reducing the amount of food you eat your body will want to put more weight on. By putting your body in survival mode where it only uses what it needs it will add weight which for it is unnecessary? Interesting idea tell me how it goes.
     
  13. Clumsy

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    No, but when I begin to eat my body will absorb the food better and I will gain weight in a natural way. This is still a theory, but I've read about cases, so I decided to try it myself. Right now, I feel no back stiffness at all, my breathing goes easier, I feel no hunger or thirst, I feel small vibrating sensations in my body (indicating it's healing in some areas) and I haven't consumed anything in 35 hours.
     
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    You're going to tell someone to stay out of topics that they haven't apparently "mastered" so you can blab on about how you know all about diets, because you chatted to a lady who developed breast cancer? Clumsy I'm going to be honest, you seem fairly uneducated about certain aspects of this discussion.

    Don't assume someone doesn't know what they are talking about just because their opinion doesn't match up with yours. I am taking several science courses through university right now, so I know a bit about biological molecules and how the body uses them.

    Do you know what causes cancer Clumsy? Cancer is, in essence, caused by a mutation of genetic sequences within the DNA of a cell. Those mutations cause cells to divid rapidly and out of control, resulting in masses called tumours. That is how cancer works. So if you're going to sit here, and tell me how "experienced" you are because you read all sorts of articles online, without any secondary education at a higher learning institution, I don't think you, for one, should tell other people to stay out of certain topics.

    The sugar molecules in fruit are completely different than the sugar molecules in refined sugar. The sugars in fruit take longer to break down, and become absorbed compared to the sugars from refined sugar, which is absorbed quickly by the body, inducing an insulin spike and a feeling of tiredness. So basically, the sugars in fruit will give a longer source of energy and are used up slower, whereas refined sugar is absorbed right away and causes a spike in blood sugar. If this is what you were wondering.
     
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    I know what causes cancer, the question is what causes the cell to grow abnormal.

    And if you just look around there is plenty of studies that shows fructose to be bad in combination with meat and fat. But well well, you have no clue of what you're talking about and I don't give a crap about you going to university or not. I have real experience, not just from internet. And why is internet not a good reliable source? Here you have the opportunity to talk with all kinds of people. And if you think that no sick people eat a balanced diet, then you're very mistaken and that alone proves that you've no clue of what you're talking about right now.

    And I'm not saying that I'm right, or that my "opinions" are the truth, I'm saying that the perfect diet is unknown and that is a fact, one size does not always fits all. I've not said that intermittent fasting is a good thing, I've said that there are plenty of studies saying it's beneficial and to my logic it seems very possible, which I've linked, and I believe that it's a good thing.
     
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    I have attended several university lectures and I have yet to see so many fools in the same room elsewhere

    The teacher taught out to eat five times a day, that cow milk was not a problem, that masturbation and sex can be practiced in excesses without consequences. No matter the signals body gives us, we must eat, even if we are not hungry, we shall drink 3 litres of water everyday, otherwise we die of dehydration. Such myths are common among our universities.
     
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    I'll tell you why the internet is not a reliable source. It is because anybody, and I mean anybody, can write anything about any subject. Any yahoo out there can write about their personal opinion. So it's hard to distinguish factual evidence from beliefs. So basically, if you are not reading from a reputable source, you are simply reading someones opinion on something. That's why the internet is not a reliable source. One has to be fairly naive to believe everything they read on the internet.

    Of course sick people eat balanced diets. But like I said before, it is not the balanced diet that causes their illness. It's from an outside source.
     
  18. I don't think that a perfect diet exist. I think that there is A perfect diet for each human being on here. I think that chasing perfection actually is what's unhealthy here. What works for you depends of yourself, and what works for you is what you believe in. Studies are here to prove this exactly: that it all depends. Personally, I believe in moderation in everything.
     
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    Well I don't know which university lecture you attended, but it sounds bizarre to me.
     
  20. Clumsy

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    Bizarre? This is the knowledge the public teaches every student nowadays. They have even fooled an entire generation that homosexuality is natural, though it does not exist among any other animal living under normal circumstances (only captured animals shows brutality and sexual aggressiveness in an unnnatural manner). Quite impressing how they have brainwashed the entire population of earth to break the laws of nature to such a great extent.
     
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