Ejaculation after a wetdream literally made me physically sick

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by SeekingMyWay2, Jan 21, 2019.

  1. SeekingMyWay2

    SeekingMyWay2 Fapstronaut

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    Semen Retention is like the natural part of your human biology.

    Biologically you are designed to release semen only to create new life and after the release of it body needs a ton of recovery.

    I had maintained one of my most successfull SR streaks yet, one that finally made me hit the spot of realization about what are my goals and literally for first time ever a girl gave her number on her own and like three or four more girls looked at me in a interested way.

    Anyways, during the night transition from 20th January and 21st January I finally realized the only factor that makes wet dreams happen - it is any form of pre-ejaculatory stimulation or sensation during sleep or the between periods of sleep cycles when you might pull off your underwear during a burst of lust or built up tension that gradually builds up the longer you are on a streak and the most important factor during sleep that will inevitabely force your body to ejaculate during a sexual dream will be edging or the rubbing of your penis against anything, no matter if only for 1 or two minutes.

    I also finally realized that none of these things were completely spontanous or that they happen on their own, I just realized that the longer you are on a SR streak, the more energy and concentration you need during nighttime to be able to guide yourself and your hands to not pull your underwear down or do some mini-edging.

    This is the key. What I also understand is that failures aren't bad, but they instead give us massive knowledge and progressively lead us to path of success.

    But the biggest problem was that after I had ejaculated during a wet dream by stomach literally WENT CRAZY. I started gassing horribly, I had like the most shielded health, strength, focus and vitality during the SR streak, it always happens, when you do not waste your sperm for no reason like you are naturally supposed to do, your body will build up your immunity, strength, attractiviness, focus and vitality.

    I literally had air burbles gargling and coming out of my mouth for several times, painful stomach and micro-nausea and could not workout as I felt too sick and I went home.

    It is the ejaculation which is the root of all the problems, you are likely only going to maybe procreate once or maximum three times and that's how many times in your life you would be supposed to ejaculate and were likely that when you got to the point of procreation you would have had already used all the potentional, energy and power to establish a good financial, security and social stability situation for you and your mate therefore in that scenario the decay from ejaculating to ACTUALLY create a human would not impact you that greatly, but with the normalization of a thing that literally kills you over time mentally and physically, done by the so called "psychologists and mainstream "doctors" " we have a era in our history when financial instability, depression, social akwardness, suffering and dread has increased rapidly, and majority of that has happened because of the same normalization of constant disruption of our natural shielding and progressation mechanism which is "saving of the sexual energy and semen unless needed for total reproduction purposes only"

    In one way I feel fucking shit right now and I will need a week minimum to get on proper road again, but atleast now I have fully found the cause of my wetdreams and the process that leads to it.

    I actually had the biggest leap from all the streaks that I have maintained in the previous one.

    It all makes sense now, the odds are in favor of my self-control skill from now on and I will need to make sure to fight back against any nighttime micro-urges to "just loosen up your groin region" or just "slightly rub your dick" against something.

    I cannot even say in words how important it is for us to NOT ejaculate UNLESS CREATING LIFE.

    Some people in the starter NoFap categories talk about it being fine cumming once in a month or two weeks or "moderation". But do not make me fucking laugh.

    Ejaculating without a purpose will ruin you. It is not that bad for every individual. But more or less it will demobilize you.

    Just like Sun Tzu said that it is important to remember chaos and instability during the times of peace as people often forget what has caused them to suffer when they have had no suffering for period of time.

    I feel achy, weird and degenerated.

    WHOLE NoFap community should focus on life-long Semen retention.

    This maybe sounds overexgaratted, but anyone who has defeated or for long time easily fought against PMO should at end transition into total period of SR which will never again in the person's life will involve solo sexual actions.

    Why am I saying that? Because I also learned that whenever you let your mind even slightly accept or get away with any kind of thought that makes you EVEN slightly or unconsciounessly think that little bit of solo or edging or infrequent ejaculation could be okay, these thoughts "stack up" and prepare you for the next wetdream and relapse.

    I worked for months to be able to track down all the thought processes, all things that lead to suffering and I have finally found the answer.

    Take a cold shower even if you experience zero day urges, cold showers have made my streak feel more solid and more powerful, also pray like you had to prevent hells of gate from opening on the surface of Earth, before going to sleep that you do not get tempted and slightly edge or initiate environment for a wetdream and wasting of semen happen. Praying also helped me calm myself and made me feel confident that I will be able to control what my arms will do.

    More importantly NEVER EVER start doubting whether NoFap + SR is right. No matter if you have been on SR as a hermit, isolated from the society for two years or if you have chicks falling on you. The greatest fall happens when we get too easy and forget all the suffering that self-sabotaging actions have done to us.
     
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  2. SeekingMyWay2

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    Luckilly no virus or anything of that. Getting better now and I know that it was caused by wasting of seed.

    jfc
     
  3. SeekingMyWay2

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    I swear after you have broken free from PMO and have done long periods of SR, you are looking at world in a entirely different light and you literally want to do everything to never have a wet dream again.

    I can literally sense and through causes and results explain everything that is wrong with the world, at macro and micro level.

    I start seeing how low many people are energetically.

    When you are doing SR you actually realize that you are one of the thousands in your area/school/city that have awakened to a form of realization. When I walk through school every day, I see so many people constantly indulging in electronic devices, eating sugary foods and all kinds of crapfoods, creating suffering against other's or theirselves, not seeing their true self and using all their potentionals that nature has given to them.

    It is a odd experience because you feel like one of the millions out in a desert of degeneracy and you are the only one who fully understands it and could also explain it to the masses, but the instinct of the majority would make it possible only for a very emotionally stable and long-term Semen Retentioner to eventually convince people.
     
  4. seaguy44

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    it definitely takes a LOT of energy to ejaculate for sure. I remember when I was binging on masturbation like 4-5 times a day. My body was literally in agony after 4th or 5th time of ejaculation in a single day. I became sick.
     
  5. CH3RRY

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    You have some flawed ideas about this.

    You're saying that a male is supposed to ejaculate only a few times in his entire life. This claim doesn't have any proof to back it up. And even if we don't look at it from a biological perspective, but from the standpoint of energy/mental strength, looking to achieve complete semen retention isn't something that is recommended.

    Wet dreams are natural and you cannot stop them. You can try to lessen the frequency of having them, but you will still get them from time to time if you aren't ejaculating otherwise. Having wet dreams isn't entirely caused by porn or fantasizing, they happen when your body needs a release.

    Having sexual thoughts can enforce and increase the chances of having a wet dream, but ultimately it will happen when your body has gone long enough with ejaculating. I experienced this myself. I could feel the physical need to release, and the pressure of holding on to it during daytime and shortly after, I started having some wet dreams. I made a whole post about this were I said:
    "I have 0 desire to watch porn and I'm not addicted to it anymore. It's not on my mind at all during the day. But I do have some mild fantasies every time I go to bed. I don't think they are the cause of this, though they might enforce the real cause. The real cause I believe is, that my body wants to get rid of the sperm and since I always used to ejaculate to porn, my mind connects the act of ejaculating to porn. So I don't think I ejaculate because of imagery of porn in my mind, instead I get the imagery of porn because of the need to ejaculate."

    I could tell you're young from your thoughts. You are a year younger than me, and I know how your thought process works. You have to understand that what you're saying in your text are your own experiences and thoughts that you think are true. You can't see the whole picture yet, and it will be molded in the future.

    "When you are doing SR you actually realize that you are one of the thousands in your area/school/city that have awakened to a form of realization. When I walk through school every day, I see so many people constantly indulging in electronic devices, eating sugary foods and all kinds of crapfoods, creating suffering against other's or theirselves, not seeing their true self and using all their potentionals that nature has given to them." To this I can say that I feel the same way. But I still don't exactly agree with your fanaticism with semen retention. To me it isn't all about the idea of not ejaculating, though I agree that it has made me drastically more energetic. I don't masturbate because it's a meaningless habit that has a negative impact on my mind. But I'm not supportive of life long semen retention, ejaculating through sex is what I'm fine with.
     
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  6. seaguy44

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    I agree with you. I have experienced a physical need to ejaculate. It's BIOLOGICAL. It's what propels us to procreate and make babies.

    If we don't have the natural desire to ejaculate, then the humanity would die off. So it makes sense for this. Every MALE has experienced this desire. Even the Pope.

    That is why everyone wants sex because it meets our desire to ejaculate. This is why we live in a sexualized world. It's common sense.

    So the key is basically balance. Too much isn't good. A permanent SR isn't healthy unless you transmute it completely into different activities.

    So my solution for ME is this: I do this through sex because sex is healthy and it's natural.

    Don't believe me? Try documenting every time you get a desire to ejaculate for a year and you'd be surprised how often the desire occurs the year. It's possible for men to stop masturbation for DECADES, but the NATURAL desire to ejaculate never goes away. Ever. It's designed in us biologically to find a mate and make babies.
     
  7. Retentionman

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    Ejaculation is meant for reproduction. It does not mean that you shouln't or cannot have sex, it just mean that you can reach orgasm without ejaculation
     
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  8. SeekingMyWay2

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    This was what I meant.

    You can still experience non-ejaculatory orgasm during sex without ejaculating or by injaculating.

    A release indeed is a way of humans keeping theirselves on this planet, I did not argue or fight against the very urge and the driving factor of procreation itself, I rather emphasized on the idea of being able to control this will and using the energy and motivation and testosterone that comes from your body trying to make you mate for creation and motivation of the making of great and advanced projects.
     
  9. SeekingMyWay2

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    I am 17.

    I just experience the aura effect the longer I am on pure SR,

    I know that most of people here are mostly just for the basics such as fixing the PMO problem and are not too much into the advanced, semi-religious aspect of SR

    But I have always found people and the world "connecting" to me, the longer I have maintained the seed.

    And it has always been related to the length of my SR streak.

    After the 2nd-3rd week of maintaining a SR streak, everything feels to naturally "inflow" towards you, your intentions and actions get more synchronized and random opportunities tend to pop up for you.

    Universe is connecting with your wishes and they are manifesting.

    It is probably not understandable for scientific people from an atheistic viewpoint, but as I know that it works for me, I do it and I do what works for me. Everything is easier when you are on SR.
     
  10. Retentionman

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    Exactly my man, do you recommend any info or books regarding this? I recommend Mantak Chia
     
  11. Infrasapiens

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    Even as I admire your determination, the fact that you felt that weak after a wet dream is not normal. Maybe you should go see a doctor.
     

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